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Old 07-16-2013, 18:52   #1
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Moon clip conversion for revolvers

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I have a Ruger Super Redhawk .454 that I'm thinking of having the conversion done on so it would use moon clips and also be able to shoot .45acp.
Are there any negatives to doing the conversion?
Will it effect the life of the brass for reloading in 45 acp, .45 Colt, or .454?
Will it be able to use moon clips in all three calibers?
Are the moon clips for .45 Colt and .454 interchangeable?
About how much will this cost?
Is there anything else I should know before I make my decision?

I was looking at TKcustom, or Clark Custom.

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Old 07-16-2013, 19:04   #2
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If that's possible, the concern will be how they would headspace the clip + .45 ACP chambering and still maintain headspace for the .454 case.

If you recall, the .45 Auto Rim has a substantially thicker rim than typical revolver cartridges to match the dimensions of the clipped .45 ACP case.

If it's possible, it would have to be a super thin moon clip (I would think).

If the .454 headspace dimension is altered, you'll have drastically shortened case life, if not chronic ignition issues with the .454 brass.
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Old 07-16-2013, 19:16   #3
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I've not heard of a conversion on a .454. I'm not an expert on pressure and case strength, but it could probably be done. You would most likely get sub-par accuracy with the extra freebore. The conversions usually cost several hundred dollars and you may need special moon clips for a Ruger. The moon clips for rimmed cartridges are different than ACP so they would probably need to make two types that both fit.

I see this as a costly project with mediocre results. You could find a used .45ACP revolver for slightly more and just have two nice guns.
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Old 07-16-2013, 19:20   #4
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It looks like they mill the center of the cylinder just enough to allow the use of the moon clip, but. The outer lip is untouched so it does not change the headspace.

http://www.tkcustom.com/content/machine.asp


I think I've found it can be done for around $250

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Old 07-16-2013, 19:31   #5
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It looks like they mill the center of the cylinder just enough to allow the use of the moon clip, but. The outer lip is untouched so it does not change the headspace.

http://www.tkcustom.com/content/machine.asp


I think I've found it can be done for around $250
Well that answers that question then. I was wondering how they were going to accomplish that.

Like Ronin mentions, the only other potential issue would be the long free bore, and obviously the need to scrub out the chambers before going back to .454.

Interesting concept for sure.
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Old 07-16-2013, 19:31   #6
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That's exactly what they do. You would still need two different moon clips for the different types of cartridges. I know on the old 9mm snubbies Ruger had to use a different style of moon clip due to the unique ejector rod setup. If that is still the case on the Redhawk, you would need custom made moon clips that could be pricey.
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Old 07-16-2013, 20:14   #7
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I can't see it as being particularly an efficient use of the money. You can reload .45 Colt cases to the level you are looking at. If you don't reload yet that pistol isadrn good reason to start.
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I do reload, just not for the 454 yet. It's new and I need to buy dies, brass etc for it. I don't know that I will do the conversion, just thinking out loud......

I do like the idea of moon clips and extra cartridge compatibility.
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I do reload, just not for the 454 yet. It's new and I need to buy dies, brass etc for it. I don't know that I will do the conversion, just thinking out loud......

I do like the idea of moon clips and extra cartridge compatibility.
Or sometimes you want to do it just for giggles.


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Old 07-17-2013, 03:51   #10
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I've used .45 GAP in .45 ACP. .40 in 10mm, and 9mm in 9x23 with zero effect on accuracy. I doubt you have much to worry about shooting .45acp in a 454.

Before you jump in and have the cylinder milled look at the cost of clips, and if you can ever get them. Ranch is by far the cheapest and for a reason. Some of mine for 627 and 327 cost 8$ each.
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