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Old 07-16-2013, 04:30   #1
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Looking for something like a 642. It will be used for possible carry and around the house gun, maybe the wife can use as her hand strength is low with RA. What do you recommend?
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Old 07-16-2013, 06:03   #2
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Have her try the trigger on it before you buy. With bad hands a long DA trigger could be difficult for her. I also wouldn't choose a snubby as a house gun.
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Old 07-16-2013, 06:25   #3
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A house gun?

An AR or shot-gun...
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Old 07-16-2013, 07:09   #4
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I had the chance to fire a Ruger LCR .357. The load was a Remington Golden Saber (watered down .357mag load, IMHO), but the little gun was light weight, manageable and fun to shoot.

The 642 is an excellent seller for S&W. One con is that the airweights are not pleasant to shoot .357mag out of. .38spl +p are cool.
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Old 07-16-2013, 08:40   #5
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The Ruger LCR in 38 has a nice trigger pull. My son has one and it was fun to shoot. Have her try that revolver also.
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Old 07-16-2013, 09:07   #6
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Much as I hate the idea of a polymer revolver, the LCR does have a nice trigger.
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Old 07-16-2013, 09:12   #7
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I like the LCR trigger pull. When he was buying, we test it, a taus ans s&w snubbie. LCR had the best trigger pull in both our opinions.
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Old 07-16-2013, 10:00   #8
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The jframes make great discreet carry and BUG's. For a house gun the 5 shot capacity is limiting. As far as your wife goes the heavy DA trigger and fierce recoil will likely not be pleasant for her. Try a metal 9mm semi auto. The extra weight and grip will help tame the recoil, and the 9mm is a soft shooter.
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Old 07-16-2013, 10:58   #9
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Maybe a 637 or 638 so she can shoot SA, if you don't like the idea of the LCR, which has a great trigger. I recommend the KLCR .357 mag if you get an LCR, since you can shoot .38 in it, and since it weighs more than the .38 LCR, which makes shooting .38 from it have less felt recoil.
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Old 07-16-2013, 11:39   #10
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Why do people recommend lightweight snubbies for a person that has weak hand due to arthritis? Do you people even read the OP's posting at all?

John43,

I recommend a SW M10 in probably 4" barrel length. They're still a dime a dozen, and then you can spend some money on a lightened double action trigger job for your wife.
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Had a thought about the wife's RA and slide pull. I remember one gentleman in his 80's traded an almost mint M29 for a semi-auto. He returned 3 days later to trade the semi for something else. Reason was he couldn't pull back the slide. That is NOT an uncommon problem. The LGS sold him a FN 5.7. Apparently, he could work that slide.

The 5.7 is not my favorite caliber and the thing is really expensive (1000+). It is a lite-weight polymer frame "service/duty" size pistol, but with .22 like recoil and a high mag cap.
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Old 07-16-2013, 11:59   #12
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Had a thought about the wife's RA and slide pull.
There's the tip-up barrel for loading pistol from Beretta: Tomcat in either .22LR or .25Auto, and Bobcat in .32Auto.

http://www.berettausa.com/products/3...at-wide-slide/
http://www.berettausa.com/products/model-21-bobcat/
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:07   #13
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for home defense, i agree with the lcr recommendations. my wife shoots a klcr better than a sp101. the trigger is a smooth, easy pull. the polymer frame flexes with recoil and the high grip position, coupled with the hogue recoil tamer grips, equates to a very manageable weapon. especially firing .38's.

the s&w revolver frames usually extend the the edge of the grip, transferring all the recoil to your hand. the lcr handle is very thin, encased by the soft grips.

best bet is to buy the .357 kclr over the regular .38 special lcr even if you are just shooting .38's for two reasons

1. it weighs a couple more ounces, helping with recoil

2. bullets do jump the crimp in a lcr. the .357 cylinder length gives you just a little more leeway if that happens.

try to rent one and test it out.

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Old 07-16-2013, 12:18   #14
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I'll go way out on a limb here, and while I really like the S&W model 10 Idea (and there are some heavy barrel 65s around that can be loaded with .38s) I would think about a Berretta 84 series.380. I don't see anything saying that you couldn't chamber the first round for her. The weight of the gun with a full mag dampens the recoil of the .380 round. It would give her the advantage of large capacity as a bargain. The trigger pulls can be quite nice. A lower cost alternative, serving the same function, would be the CZ 83 but while I find the triggers nice and the guns inexpensive, for someone with RA I would thing a spring replacement would be in order and that might require a gunsmith raising the cost a bit.

Another off the wall idea would be the out of production Star "Firestar" or Firestar plus" a simple Single action auto (like the 1911) but with an all-steel frame that made it heavier than H*** for it's size and soaked up recoil. the operating controls were also huge . That includes an ergonomical hammer that would be easy to cock with the off hand if the chamber was loaded by someone else and left with the hammer down.

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I'll go way out on a limb here, and while I really like the S&W model 10 Idea (and there are some heavy barrel 65s around that can be loaded with .38s) I would think about a Berretta 84 series.380. I don't see anything saying that you couldn't chamber the first round for her. The weight of the gun with a full mag dampens the recoil of the .380 round. It would give her the advantage of large capacity as a bargain. The trigger pulls can be quite nice. A lower cost alternative, serving the same function, would be the CZ 83 but while I find the triggers nice and the guns inexpensive, for someone with RA I would thing a spring replacement would be in order and that might require a gunsmith raising the cost a bit.
I thought about the Beretta .380 too but I was worried that the lady may not be able to work the slide on her own because of her arithritic hands.
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Why do people recommend lightweight snubbies for a person that has weak hand due to arthritis? Do you people even read the OP's posting at all?
My buddy's wife has arthritis and cannot rack the slide on a Glock (or any other comparable semi auto for that matter), but she can comfortable and accurately shoot a snub-nose .38.


I love the Airweights. Personally, I find them more pleasant to shoot than my G23. And far more comfortable to conceal as well. Although I do prefer the 637 over the 642 because I like the exposed hammer.
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Old 07-16-2013, 15:10   #17
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If she wants a small revolver I would look at the LCR for the trigger, I was impressed when I tried one. A nice used S&W K frame like a model 10, 13 or 15 or the SS versions will kick a lot less (with non magnum ammo in the case of the 13) which is an issue for many people and is closely related to the weight of the trigger, weak hands are weak hands. How big are her hands? I'd go rent some guns and spend some time playing.
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If I had someone with arthritis I would lean toward a K frame rather than a J frame.
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If I had someone with arthritis I would lean toward a K frame rather than a J frame.
Very true. Find a rare 2 inch or 3 inch would be a better choice than a "J" IMO. The trigger pull is longer but lighter overall and the frame soaks up and distributes the recoil better.
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Very true. Find a rare 2 inch or 3 inch would be a better choice than a "J" IMO. The trigger pull is longer but lighter overall and the frame soaks up and distributes the recoil better.
Not to mention that a competent gunsmith can lighten the double action pull considerably without sacrificing reliable ignition.

I just installed the Wilson Combat spring kit in my N-frame and it lightened the DA pull yet still set off hard primers in rounds from S&B and RWS.


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