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Old 07-06-2013, 20:49   #51
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What were these 5 incidents that you needed to draw a gun on someone? Just curious.
Other kids wanted the toy he was playing with during free play time, and he was cranky because he couldn't sleep during nap time. He had to draw down on them, to show dominance.
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Old 07-06-2013, 20:56   #52
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M&P compact 9mm !
12+1 rounds in a lightweight package.
Will except bigger 17 round mags.
Comes with 3 dot Novak style sights.
Could make it better later on with...
(1) Apex trigger kit.
(As M&P triggers are a little sloppy)
(2) Trigicon Tough & Bright Novak green night sights.
(As your eyes see bright green better than any other color.)
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(Not needed, but will add some accuracy)
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Old 07-06-2013, 21:03   #53
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What were these 5 incidents that you needed to draw a gun on someone? Just curious.
Oh NO you din't!!!

"Oh you can call me "Ray"

or you can call me "Jay"

or you can call me "Ray Jay"

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Old 07-06-2013, 21:05   #54
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Other kids wanted the toy he was playing with during free play time, and he was cranky because he couldn't sleep during nap time. He had to draw down on them, to show dominance.
That's understandable.
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Old 07-06-2013, 21:06   #55
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Oh NO you din't!!!

"Oh you can call me "Ray"

or you can call me "Jay"

or you can call me "Ray Jay"

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The lolz might be big.
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Old 07-06-2013, 21:20   #56
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SW1911 but life is too short to limit yourself to one handgun. Don
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Old 07-06-2013, 21:23   #57
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Old 07-06-2013, 21:27   #58
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I WAS going to post an opinion, but clearly I am not worthy. How grand all of our questions can be answered with such erudition!
Pier 23, you'd better explain "erudition" to Kussor, too complex a word for a troll. Don
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oh yeah? After you've got the tens of thousands of hours of experience and study of the subject that I have, you'll see that I'm correct. 45 years, that is. 150+ combat matches, had to point a gun at men 5x, taken hundreds of animals with ccw guns and loads, scores of students trained, read every gun book you ever heard of, (and scores that you haven't) thousands of gun magazines read, thousands of hours on the Net on these forums, hundreds of hours of trainiing in logic, debate, and how to do research. So lets SEE what you've GOT in the way of "rebuttal" to what i've said here, hmm? Fat chance that it;s anything but the refuge of scoundrels.
Chill man. Take your medication and think before you post. If you don't have any medication get some. Nothing happening here worth the high blood pressure.
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Old 07-06-2013, 22:37   #62
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If you were limited to just one handgun and you HAD to pick from the following firearms, which would you go with? This would be for home defense, carry, ....any and all purposes.

1. S&W 1911SC E Series .45
2. Ruger SR1911 Commander .45
3. S&W M&P 9c 9mm
4. S&W M&P 40c .40
5. Sig Sauer P229 .40
6. Ruger SR9c 9mm
7. Ruger SR40c .40

Just those, no other choices. What would you go with?

Thanks,
Sorry none of the above really fits into "all purpose" category set in the title of this thread.
That would be more like Glock 20 or S&W 686 or 629.
Since no Glock is available my vote goes to S&W 686 4 inch barrel.
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Old 07-06-2013, 22:53   #63
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:51   #64
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My pick from the list would be the Sig 229 as well.
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Old 07-07-2013, 03:59   #65
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I guess I'd take the commander 1911, since I carry a 1911 now.
BOTH 1911's are commander length 4.25 inch barrels.
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Old 07-07-2013, 04:07   #66
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In a commie state is a .357 revovler allowed? If so I would choose the S&W airlite 360 PD. Also why hasn't kussor been banned yet?
yea most everything S&W does is sold here because they are based in springfield MA
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Old 07-07-2013, 04:09   #67
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Take a look at one, they are phenomenal guns.
thank you i am going to do that. it would make sense, it functions the same as my P229
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Old 07-07-2013, 04:12   #68
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SW1911 but life is too short to limit yourself to one handgun. Don
wow it only took 56 posts for someone to pick this. i thought for sure more people would. i think the all black version is gorgous. thanks.
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Thank you everyone for the input. Sorry there were not more handguns to pick from but in my state there are not a lot of manufacturers who do business here. It seems no one picked the Ruger SR compacts, almost no one picked the M&P 40c, the Ruger 1911 Commander, or to my surprise the S&W1911Sc E Series. The 2 that got the most picks were the Sig P229 which I already own and the M&P 9c which I will have to take a good look at. There were also some great suggestions that are available in my state that were not on the list so thanks again everyone and enjoy your Sunday. Shoot straight and watch your six!
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Old 07-07-2013, 05:53   #71
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Old 07-07-2013, 09:47   #72
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That list kind of sucks, but if that's all the choices, M&P9c.
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Old 07-07-2013, 10:16   #73
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Model SW1911SC
E-Series™ - Round Butt, Scandium Frame

'cause it's on my current list of "want to own".
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I don't know about the "any & all purposes" aspect and that restricted of a list of only semiauto handguns, and only chambered in the Big Three service calibers.

Sounds more like instead of any & all purposes, you've already narrowed the potential purpose down to it being used for a defensive role in some circumstances. (Not a hunting handgun, nor a handgun to protect against feral/dangerous animals more than thin-skinned, some competition venues, etc.)

As a firearms instructor I'd not recommend a 1911-style SA pistol for someone, especially for dedicated defensive usage, unless I knew that person was already familiar with a 1911, or was planning to attend some training to become very familiar with it.

As a longtime 1911 owner & shooter, of those listed I'd go with the Enhanced series of the SW1911SC, no question.

If not a 1911? Either the M&P 9c or 40c, depending on the experience and skillset of the potential owner/user.

I've seen some folks trying to choose between the 9c & 40c, and while most folks can adapt to the increased felt recoil & muzzle whip of the .40 S&W on a static, slow-fire range ... once we transition to some demanding, faster paced shooting drills, the controllability & practical accuracy quickly shows they have much better results using the 9c, even loaded with +P ammo.

I own a 40c, myself (since 2010). The only reason I picked it over the 9c was because I already had more 9's than .40's, and I'd received a M&P .40 extractor bar gauge tool from S&W (as an armorer), by mistake, instead of a .40/10 extractor bar gauge I'd ordered for the 3rd gen guns. I kept the M&P extractor bar gauge and simply decided I might as well have a gun for which the tool might someday be useful.

Anyway, the 40c is a very easy shooting .40 for a gun in the general size/weight range of, say, a G27 (I have one of those, too), but the 40c is easier to shoot over the course of longer range sessions than my G27. (I have more than 15,000+ rounds fired through that G27, so it's not like I haven't acquired some passing familiarity with using it.)

So ... the 9c is usually something I recommend interested folks try out on a range, along with the 40c, before finalizing their decision.

The Rugers? Longtime Ruger owner, user & enthusiast. However, the last Ruger centerfire semiauto of theirs I found even remotely interesting was the KP90DC (which I tried my best to wear out, eventually replacing several parts due to either normal wear or minor breakage).

P229? Decent service-type pistol in TDA (tradition double action, also called DA/SA by many folks). Some folks also like the enhanced double action only mode (what Sig also calls their DAK, in-house). Sig refers to it as a "compact" but it's a lot larger than their actual "compact", the P239 series. It feels & carries like a full-size service pistol. That may or may not be an advantage, depending on other things with any particular owner.

Personally, I tend to look more toward revolvers for "any & all purposes", as they still fill a viable role and offer advantages ... no magazines needed, no disassembly/field-stripping for cleaning, less susceptible to ammunition sensitivity & shooter grip stability issues, easier to maintain at the user level for normal conditions, some interchangeability in ammunition among some calibers/models (.38 Spl can be fired in .357 Magnum models, .44 Spl in .44 Magnum).

You have to ask yourself which of those models may suit your needs, skillset, experience and actual anticipated range of conditions in which you may be using a handgun ... and make the best informed decision possible.
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Fastbolt, as usual, nailed it again.
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