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Old 07-02-2013, 16:51   #1
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Tavor... again

I have had my Tavor for around 4 months now. Just over 1k rounds have gone through it flawlessly. Ammo shot Federal and Wolf Steel cased shells. It sports an Eotech XPS2 with Larue Tactical mount that allows it to co-witness.

Some eye candy.

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Old 07-02-2013, 20:56   #2
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What's not to like?


REALLY DUDE, Guinness should come out of a tap


That is a very cool rifle, I wanted a FN2000 for a while but the cost was just too much then I saw the Tavor was coming and was very excited. I will have to wait for mine though, the cost is just too steep for me at the moment. Hopefully after a year or two I will have one.

Thanks for the pics,
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Old 07-02-2013, 23:12   #3
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I think they look pretty cool but im gonna have to shoot one before id commit that kind of money to buying.
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If they were ever legal here... I'd buy one, no matter what the cost. It's listed as $2k for now from police dealers.
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If they were ever legal here... I'd buy one, no matter what the cost. It's listed as $2k for now from police dealers.
Can you get things like that for duty, even if the Chief signs off?
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Can you get things like that for duty, even if the Chief signs off?
As of right now... yes. Hope things don't change within the next few months.
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I don't really get stiffies over guns. My buddy has a Tavor and I really, really, really like that thing.

Plus, a Tavor makes a cameo in World War Z.
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Old 07-03-2013, 02:37   #8
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Plus, a Tavor makes a cameo in World War Z.
DUh... I was wondering why we didn't see all the Israeli troops with tavors!

as for the gun itself, I love the looks and would be interested in handling one. But I cant get over the fact that it's a giant hunk of plastic
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The plastic is hard to describe. It feels like a glock just thicker. The accuracy is amazing, the trigger is crisp and reset is loud almight a 10LB trigger is something I had to get used to, I don't notice it anymore.

Take it apart? Pull 3 take down pins, entire assy pops out the back and trigger pack falls to bottom. Plug the piston gas area with a foamy, spray brake cleaner in inside, wipe done.

I just love the Tavor, its shorter then my buddies krink. I heard all these stories on the bullpup forums about how tavor is picky with ammo and wont eat steel cased ammo. Mine ate it, perfectly.

I was on the wait list for ever, $1900 shipped, 15 xfer fee.
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But I cant get over the fact that it's a giant hunk of plastic
People said the exact same thing back in 1985 about this newfangled company Glock.
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Love my Tavors. These things are engineered REALLY well.

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The plastic is hard to describe. It feels like a glock just thicker. The accuracy is amazing, the trigger is crisp and reset is loud almight a 10LB trigger is something I had to get used to, I don't notice it anymore.

Take it apart? Pull 3 take down pins, entire assy pops out the back and trigger pack falls to bottom. Plug the piston gas area with a foamy, spray brake cleaner in inside, wipe done.

I just love the Tavor, its shorter then my buddies krink. I heard all these stories on the bullpup forums about how tavor is picky with ammo and wont eat steel cased ammo. Mine ate it, perfectly.

I was on the wait list for ever, $1900 shipped, 15 xfer fee.
Great example of over-engineering... if you pull out the trigger reset spring it will cut the pull down to around 7lbs and makes a noticeable difference. All this spring does is force the trigger to reset when there's lots of dirt and grime inside the trigger pack. AR15's don't have this and it's rare that anyone has an issue with the trigger resetting so it's not necessary. If you torture test an AR15 this is usually the first failure experienced. So, if one wants an AR15-like pull just take this spring out. If you're going to be rolling around in the mud for days/weeks and lives depend on your rifle then put it back in. Otherwise all you're doing is lowering your Tavor to the same reliability of your AR15 anyway. The added pull is from something they added to make the rifle MORE reliable than the AR15 platform.
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People said the exact same thing back in 1985 about this newfangled company Glock.
Took the words out of my mouth. The idea that a firearm needs to be all metal-based to be reliable died in the 1970's.
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:51   #13
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The only thing I can think of not to like is the price, other than that Nothing. SJ 40
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Tavor quick trigger job

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dizuRNL0HIs#at=201

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There you go. That's the trigger return spring I was talking about.
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For what you pay for the Tavor they should be able to do much better with the trigger out of the box.
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For what you pay for the Tavor they should be able to do much better with the trigger out of the box.
I guess that lack of reading comprehension follows you from thread to thread, huh? There's a reason for the heavy pull and it's because it was made to be MORE reliable than an M16/M4/AR15 in adverse conditions. Don't need that? Then take it out and it's not too far from the feel of a standard combat AR15 trigger. If you're focused on the trigger feel you're missing the entire point the rifle anyway.
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I guess that lack of reading comprehension follows you from thread to thread, huh? There's a reason for the heavy pull and it's because it was made to be MORE reliable than an M16/M4/AR15 in adverse conditions. Don't need that? Then take it out and it's not too far from the feel of a standard combat AR15 trigger. If you're focused on the trigger feel you're missing the entire point the rifle anyway.
Seriously what they hell is your problem? You try to pick a fight everywhere you go. Grow the hell up for the love of god.

BTW I am not the only one whom has commented negatively on the trigger. And some of it I know if related to the fact that is a bull pup.
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Seriously what they hell is your problem? You try to pick a fight everywhere you go. Grow the hell up for the love of god.

BTW I am not the only one whom has commented negatively on the trigger. And some of it I know if related to the fact that is a bull pup.
...and most of it is related to what has been discussed.
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...and most of it is related to what has been discussed.
Kinda like the differences between lowers huh....

Seriously I never came across someone with such as bad of a case of "Little Pecker Syndrome" as you in all my time on the net. Grow up.

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I saw the tavor quick trigger job video already and decided to keep the return spring in there. For the money you get alot of bang for your buck.

Piston driven reliability, perfect balance, AR accuracy and a legal alternative to an SBR? Yes please.

Rapid fire 4 mags in 100 degree weather, perfectly fine. Barely warm. Little bit of smoke in center of fire arm where the barrel connects to chamber. Cooled off within minutes.

Try that with my AK and you can barely grip the handguard. Spend $100 on US palm rail? You better have some gloves on your hand will melt...



Would I recommend the tavor to a friend? Not right now. It might be in use with the Israeli military, MAC said it is IDENTICAL to the ones in Israel just no select fire in place, just not enough time behind it. I can tell you in the 1k+ mixed ammo ive fired in it, have had zero malfunctions.

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What's a palm rail?

And you won't recommend to a friend?
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What's a palm rail?

And you won't recommend to a friend?
US PALM AK Rail

http://www.uspalm.com/products/us-pa...l-kit-rmr.html

For my SGL 21.

I would, but the question that I have constantly in my mind is are there enough parts in the US currently to satisfy my needs?

If something breaks would I have to wait 6+ weeks for a spring? I like to keep parts on hand for my other firearms. Again, I have had zero issues with the rifle just like to be prepared.
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If it keeps going the it has been there should be more OE parts availability and parts from the aftermarket for the Tavor. Retailers arn't going to ignore a rather popular platform where there is money to be made.
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Darn good point,........give them 6-9 more months. OE parts availability is said to get caught up by then, production is taking all tha spare bits and pieces away from the market now.
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