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View Poll Results: Is this a muscle car era?
Yes, its the new muscle era 74 52.86%
No, only the originals are true muscle cars. 66 47.14%
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Old 06-27-2013, 11:04   #151
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Even the beachboys felt that foreign sports cars of the day were relevant as part of the muscle car scene. Jaguar, Lotus etc
Yes, Carroll Shelby built a few muscle cars. He started out
racing imports. Won the 59 24 Hour LeMans in a Astin Martin.

Here he is next to his Maserati


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Old 06-27-2013, 11:04   #152
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Blah blah blah, many pages, blah.

Bottom line: Muscle cars were about style, not power. Farkin 283's in some of them. My Malibu had a whopping 307 putting out a BLINDING 200hp. LOL

If you want power, go buy a sup'd up Lancer. You want style - muscle car era. (To me 66-72.)
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Old 06-27-2013, 11:06   #153
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Hyperbole is also used in poetry.

Anyway, I wouldn't mind driving this everyday.

reminds me of my dads 1966 GT350 he had when I was a kid.


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So, I'm just gonna go with zero.
What's your point?
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Right here I'm reminded of a famous Rodney King quote......
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Old 06-27-2013, 11:15   #156
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What's your point?
That you, as do many people here in this thread, have little knowledge about (experience with) modern muscle cars.
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Old 06-27-2013, 11:16   #157
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Right here I'm reminded of a famous Rodney King quote......
Which one? "OUCH OH OW! STOP! OW! NO! UHH! OW! OK, I'LL. . . OW!" That one?
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That you, as do many people here in this thread, have little knowledge about (experience with) modern muscle cars.
How can I not have knowledge/experience when I've worked at dealerships that have serviced/sold them?

Given that fact, explain why I have to own one to know what I'm talking about.
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That you, as do many people here in this thread, have little knowledge about (experience with) modern muscle cars.

No offense but the technology in your "modern muscle car" is not much different than the technology in most people's modern standard automobiles.
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No offense but the technology in your "modern muscle car" is not much different than the technology in most people's modern standard automobiles.
We've totally lost the point of this thread, which is how cool current muscle cars are.

I don't even know why you're making this statement.
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How can I not have knowledge/experience when I've worked at dealerships that have serviced/sold them?

Given that fact, explain why I have to own one to know what I'm talking about.
You said you like the original muscle cars better, and I asked if you had ever owned a modern muscle car.....that's all.
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We've totally lost the point of this thread, which is how cool current muscle cars are.

I don't even know why you're making this statement.
Because people that do not think the modern muscle cars are cool, and prefer the originals are being attacked by you like it is personally offensive.

You should go re-read the OP he asked what people thought the greatest muscle car era was. Then gave his opinion.

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Because people that do not think the modern muscle cars are cool, and prefer the originals are being attacked by you like it is personally offensive.

You should go re-read the OP he asked what people thought the greatest muscle car era was. Then gave his opinion.
Nope, that's not correct. I never attacked anyone for preferring the originals.

I think you are confused.
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Because people that do not think the modern muscle cars are cool, and prefer the originals are being attacked by you like it is personally offensive.

You should go re-read the OP he asked what people thought the greatest muscle car era was. Then gave his opinion.
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You said you like the original muscle cars better, and I asked if you had ever owned a modern muscle car.....that's all.
Let's see a pic of your modern Muscle car.

The reason you have modern "Muscle cars", and I use the term loosely, is because
the manufacturers realize how popular the originals still are.

Retro is another word for knock off.
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Old 06-27-2013, 11:48   #166
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I just cant call new cars muscle cars...to me, a new charger is nothing but a family car.

Even tho I owned a 98 Mustang GT (completley custom from engine to rims) I still prefer old school muscle cars. Ill never forget going for a ride in a 69SS camaro...
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Let's see a pic of your modern Muscle car.

The reason you have modern "Muscle cars", and I use the term loosely, is because
the manufacturers realize how popular the originals still are.

Retro is another word for knock off.
I've already posted a picture of my car.
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I've already posted a picture of my car.
Oh, a Pony car. Not a Muscle car.

http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...s/viewall.html
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Right here I'm reminded of a famous Rodney King quote......
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Which one? "OUCH OH OW! STOP! OW! NO! UHH! OW! OK, I'LL. . . OW!" That one?
oh boy never saw this coming

Any way i can agree that the new muscle is def faster handles better more reliable etc but i still just have trouble comparing them to the classics
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That you, as do many people here in this thread, have little knowledge about (experience with) modern muscle cars.
I have read 427's posts in the past and clearly, unless he has a 24/7 satellite uplink to a automotive tech advisor, Id say he speaks competently from his own experience and merit.

Speaking for myself, I'm am just an old country boy but I have owned and have worked on a dozen or so muscle cars over the past several decades that range 1955chevy, 1967chevy, 1969chevy, 1971chevy, 1982ford, 1985ford, 1993ford, 1994 Mitsu, 1998chevy, 2007chevy. My current 2012 German sedan is supercharged but its just an oldman car that I cant possibly work on [doesn't even have a oil dipstick] so that doesn't count. I could throw in a couple 60-70's PU trucks that were very much muscled up but they might not count either. I am no expert but I did hang onto the 1969chevy and still own it today.
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hey is there a moderator that can add a poll to this and make it a poll thread also? I couldnt figure out how to make a poll. If possible maybe 2 choices. Yes its the new muscle era and No only the originals are true muscle cars.

Can anyone help? Please
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Naw, dennis in MA, that other one.

Car and Driver had a list of about 60 muscle cars in five categories. full size, mid sized, pony, compact, and truck, leaving the baddest pickup of all, the 440 Dodge.
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I would say they're just as relevant. The Mustang folks have been going after the M3 for a while now. All of the car you mentioned compete side by side with Mercedes and BMWs in various racing series.
Copy that.

With 414 hp, I'd say my M3 qualifies as a "modern muscle car."
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the main problem with today's musclecars is cost! Yeah, NEW musclecars were relatively expensive back in the old days but a 2 to 3 year old car was certainly cheap enough and you could work on them yourself.
Today's musclecars are certainly better in almost every way compared to the original musclecars of the past but how many do you see in teenage of early '20 year old hands with someone "souping" them up in their driveway?

To Herrglock: If you drive one of those new 4-DOOR cars Dodge foolishly calls a "Charger" , It ain't a Charger! Chargers were only made with 2 doors! Here is a REAL Hemicharger!

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So because it has 4 doors it's foolish looking?? I love the old 2 door Chargers and actually had one in High School. Currently my 'foolish" looking Charger SRT-8 runs low 11s in the quarter, seating for 5, large trunk, and at over 4000#s handles remarkably well. Brembro brakes are standard and it's loaded with airbags, Nav, Kicker stereo, etc....If I had wanted a 2 door, I would have bought a Challenger.

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I even prefer sedans and don't like the looks of the new Chargers.
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