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Old 06-08-2013, 18:32   #21
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The stuff that I have read about the G36 suggests that the few that have problems seem to have the problems from the start as opposed to others such as the G19 in which people have reported the first ~thousand rounds to be fine before "it" starts.

I do not think I have heard anyone reporting any of the current issues with the G39 (from the dozen or so sold in the last couple years.)
Yes, I am aware that the 9mm guns may not become quirky until many rounds have gone downrange. For many shooters, that may never happen. They shoot a box every couple of months and call it good.

And, yes, that's the thing with the 33 and 39. There aren't a lot of them out there so the sample size is limited.

As to subcompacts, I am truly torn. I would consider the G26 for reduced recoil, the G27 because I reload .40 for my wife, the G33 for no particular reason except the shape of the cartridge should preclude certain types of jams and the G39 because I load .45 ACP by the dumpster load. Resetting the dies to .45 GAP shouldn't be a problem.

I have to toss the G26 because it is a late model Gen 3 9mm and probably the G33 because, well, just because. That leaves the G27 and G39 as viable candidates. The G27 gets a lot of heat from new shooters due to recoil but I can't imagine the G39 being any less. And I'm not a new shooter.

The slide on the G39 is fatter than the G27 but the overall width of the guns is identical according to Glock.

I suppose I'll go with what I know and buy the G27 but I'll always wonder about the G39. Or maybe I'll buy them both, over time.

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I continue to be perplexed by the sporadic report of Glock replacing a gun. I wonder if they really cannot get it to work properly, or are afraid that the fix is to replace the slide and that might cause an avalanche, or are they simply trying to pacify a "difficult" customer.
I don't know how that works out. I'm please that Glock Customer Service is so responsive but concerned that they need to be.

I'm also convinced that many of the purported problems are due to wimpy ammo and marginal shooters. Not all the problems, but many.

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Old 06-08-2013, 19:01   #22
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Just picked up a G19 Gen4....5/11/13 test

Looks like they may have changed the extractor material. Will have to check it out.

Please check the extractor material ASAP. I'd really appreciate it...as I am thinking a possible purchase.
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Old 06-08-2013, 19:03   #23
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i just got one (test fire date 4/2013) and it shot 250 rounds just fine with both the new and older extractors that I swapped out/in for the test. I actually am confident that the gun will work just fine too...
BUT most ejection problems don't start until the 700-800 rd mark. Let us know at that point.
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Old 06-08-2013, 19:28   #24
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mine was unreliable, they gave me a new spring and it rules now
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Old 07-02-2013, 00:22   #25
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Any new findings?
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Old 07-02-2013, 00:51   #26
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I've had my 19 since March 2012 and besides some early BTF's no problems since. No modifications or anything.
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Old 07-02-2013, 05:04   #27
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Morning MGman

I have a somewhat recent build G-19 --May/of/2013 (VAV 5XX).

It came from the box very tight & had some partial feed issues with light loads but worked perfectly with full power self defense loads.

It now has a little over 1000 rounds through it & has burnished in nicely.

It puts full power cases just over & behind my R/H shoulder but will still put a few lower power & light hand loads on my right arm or shoulder. Most of the light loads (125 grain bullets) just clear me & so far none to the face or head.

Trigger pull came out of the box at 6.5 lbs (measured 3/4 way down trigger face). Some (lots of) polishing, a 6# trigger spring, lots of dry firing, & 1000+ rounds of shooting have the trigger pull at 5 lbs +/- (measured 3/4 down the trigger face).

I left the ribbed trigger in but re-worked the trigger edges & smoothed the ribs & so far it feels just fine on my finger. I tried the older Gen 3 trigger bar (no tit on shark fin) but that added a lot of compliancy (re springiness) to the trigger pull so went back to the Gen4 with the tit polished.

I haven't been able to get the trigger feel/break quite as nice as my late build G22 but it has less rounds through it.

The partial feeds seem to be due to the slide not fully cycling to the rear so the RSA is probably on the high side for lighter loads. It is just fine with full power self defense loads.
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Old 07-02-2013, 05:33   #28
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I just picked up a VR prefix gen 4 G19. I have 250 rds through it. Ejection was 99.8% acceptable. The .2% was one or two cases that got close to my head. Those were in the first 50 rds.

I really like the new finish.

I'm antsy to pick up an OD frame G23 OR 19.

I have 4 mid size glocks, gen 3 and 4, purchased in the last 1.5 yrs and they are all fine pistols.
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Old 07-02-2013, 06:04   #29
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I have an April 2013 G19Gen4.

Runs fine no problems what so ever.
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Old 07-02-2013, 06:20   #30
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I have over 200 rounds through my 19 gen 4 and it performs flawlessly. Had it for two months.
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Old 07-02-2013, 09:02   #31
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My Gen4 build test-fire date is 1/29/13. 115Gr WWB or Federal Champion don't run well at all in it. The only other available ammo around here is Hornady CD +P @$25 PER 25rnds. Sadly, I cannot afford to buy it for practice ammo.
Some may consider brass coming at you as a minor inconvenience and I am good with that. They feel as long as the gun doesn't choke there's no problem. If the possibility of buying a gun that ejects poorly does not bother you buy it.
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Old 07-02-2013, 10:44   #32
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I have a Gen3 and Gen4 G19 as well as a G26 which I just bought. All shoot great. The only thing I had while breaking in the G26 was 1 round hit me on my head, and one on my shoulder. Which could have been my fault or the casing hitting the wall while shooting. Ron
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Old 07-02-2013, 14:14   #33
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I had bought a Gen4 G19 way back when they were first released. It was a freaking nightmare! Malfunctions, BTF, etc etc. I traded for a Gen 3 and never looked back....until recently. I went to my local gun shop this past week and there was a new Gen 4 G19. U serial prefix. It had the tab on the back, 043 recoil spring, the new ejector, beavertail backstraps, etc. I decided to go for it. I have put 300 rounds through it and can say that it ejects very well and very consistent. In fact, my double taps often have the brass hitting eachother on the ground. 300 rounds is my general test of if the gun will run or not. After that if something goes wrong then I address it and consider it a fluke. My Gen 3 G19 has around 5k rounds through it in a few years and has been 100%. I hope this one is the same for me. I can say that I prefer the Gen4 ergos and backstrap options that was what really made me go for it. I'd say if you get a new, new production Gen 4 then you'll be good to go.

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Old 07-02-2013, 14:19   #34
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It had the tab on the back, 043 recoil spring, the new ejector, beavertail backstraps, etc.
Dumb question: What is the "tab on the back" ?
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Old 07-02-2013, 14:23   #35
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Not a dumb question at all since it's a relatively new feature. The tab is on the back of the frame and allows the factory beavertail to "snap" onto the frame on the top as well as slip into the channel on the bottom of the frame. It makes for an extremely solid fit. There is zero movement with the beavertail backstrap attached with that tab on the frame.
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Old 07-02-2013, 14:25   #36
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This video explains it well:
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Old 07-02-2013, 14:48   #37
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My gen 4 19 was born in April 2013. Have 1200 flawless rounds through the gun. Shot all kinds of ammo, ball, HP's and +P's, plus all different weights amd all shot excellent. This became my favorite Glock out of all my Glocks. It shoots smooth much smoother than my gen 3's. Love it!
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Old 07-02-2013, 15:52   #38
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My Glock Gen4 was an April as well, and I also will occasionally take one to the arm, but other than that no issues of any kind.
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Old 07-02-2013, 19:22   #39
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Thanks for the info Genin.
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