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Old 05-24-2013, 19:47   #1
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Backup carry with new vest?

How are you guys carrying your backup with the "uniform shirt style" vest? I dont want to ankle carry.

Here is a picture of the type vest I am talking about:
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Old 05-24-2013, 22:05   #2
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I've never seen an effective way to do it with the external uniform vest carrier, but someone may have come up with a method.

It is one of the reasons we got away from those carriers back in the 90's.
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Old 05-24-2013, 22:45   #3
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What type of BUG are you carrying?
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Old 05-25-2013, 00:03   #4
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Neck holster between the vest and duty shirt.
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Don't put it between the vest and your body. It will seriously mess you up if you get shot.

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Just a thought... but then again... getting shot would suck pretty much as is.
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Old 05-25-2013, 05:23   #8
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I ended up going with an off side cargo pocket holster from Desantis. Its not perfect, but it carries well, and doesn't bother me like carrying between my vest and torso did.
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Old 05-25-2013, 05:57   #9
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I think the air gap between the vest and you around the outline of the gun would make the vest subject to penetration if shot there, right? Party of why it works is that it's backed by flesh to help absorb the energy?

Also falling on it, having the pistol against your ribs, the edge could break ribs, right?

Don't like gun inside vest idea

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Old 05-25-2013, 08:18   #10
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My chief sometimes wears one as do a few officers, I don't like them, just uncomfortable to me.....what they do is carry a beretta .380, not sure if its the tomcat or another model, in the cargo pocket of our pants...not if you don't wear cargo pants, that's obviously a problem...maybe a snubbie of some kind in your off hand pants pocket?
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Old 05-25-2013, 09:04   #11
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I always thought if I bought one of those that I'd get lower pockets too, on the outside, and slide it in there..
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I've always gone with the offside pants pocket carry from day one for backups and never did it any other way.
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Old 05-25-2013, 12:10   #13
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Maybe the thought of having a pocket sewn on the inside/front of the carrier behind one of the existing shirt pockets, so the weapon/pocket would ride between the carrier and the vest panel. Or having the carrier opened along the button line, secured with velcro or zipper and carrying your BUG inside the carrier. It appears your options are limited.
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Old 05-25-2013, 13:10   #14
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I don't see how that would hinder me from continuing to carry my 642 in my left, front pants pocket.
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I had a fabric holster sewn on the inside weak hand side for a j frame. Essentially just reach through the arm hole and grab it. I'm not at home but I can post a pic later if you would find it helpful. If you can't find someone local, here is a link to the place that did mine;
http://www.jguniforms.com/index.html
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I had a fabric holster sewn on the inside weak hand side for a j frame. Essentially just reach through the arm hole and grab it. I'm not at home but I can post a pic later if you would find it helpful. If you can't find someone local, here is a link to the place that did mine;
http://www.jguniforms.com/index.html
I can attest to the quality of the carriers that come out of JG. I'm a VERY happy customer, and that includes an unexpected week delay in delivery. They'll do pockets and interior stash pockets and all kinds of stuff for you. I can't imagine Ajon's suggestion would be difficult for them to work out. Top notch product.
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I can attest to the quality of the carriers that come out of JG. I'm a VERY happy customer, and that includes an unexpected week delay in delivery. They'll do pockets and interior stash pockets and all kinds of stuff for you. I can't imagine Ajon's suggestion would be difficult for them to work out. Top notch product.
Do I just take my vest to them and they'll measure it all out to fit my panels?

What was the cost of your carrier from them?
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Do I just take my vest to them and they'll measure it all out to fit my panels?

What was the cost of your carrier from them?
If you're in the Chicagoland area, you can stop by without any issues. If not, I think they'll tell you how to trace your panels onto butcher paper and send them that so they can make your carrier. I got some MOLLE webbing, a slash pocket on the outside, 2 internal pockets and a pocket for my mic pack and I think it was still under $150. Tip: do NOT put the mic pack up on your shoulder if you ever want to deploy a long gun comfortably.

PM and I'll shoot a couple pics if you want to see it.
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Man I would love to have one of those. To be able to take it off for 20 minutes at the station during the summer heat in the SE would be a blessing.
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Do I just take my vest to them and they'll measure it all out to fit my panels?

What was the cost of your carrier from them?
If you're in the Chicago Metro area, get 10 or more of your co-workers to commit and they'll come to you. We did a weak hand cross draw Taser holster on the front exterior, cell phone pockets, OC, whatever you want. Its good stuff.

I recall paying about $130.

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Tip: do NOT put the mic pack up on your shoulder if you ever want to deploy a long gun comfortably.
Mine sits on my shoulder epaulette opposite my gunside and I've never had an issue. My sling doesn't even come close to touching it and shouldering my rifle on either shoulder is fine. I'm curious as to your reason... if it's something I've overlooked or haven't experienced and could make life easier it'd be good to know!

I have two carriers. One is an ABA and one is a JG Uniforms. Wearing either, my BUG is stored in my off-side cargo pocket.

For those of you who wear electronics (besides your radio), consider how those may effect your stealthiness. My co-worker wears his dept cell phone on his belt and in the middle of a building search someone called him and it illuminated him in the darkness. I also noticed my squad mic pack would blink green or red and it is 10x more noticeable in the darkness so I put a piece of black tape over the indicator light
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One of my former departments is on the NW side of Chicago and they had carriers made for everyone at JG. Radio holders, pepper spray, cell phone pouch, etc.

Here's a couple pics I found online. These were all made at JG.
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Mine sits on my shoulder epaulette opposite my gunside and I've never had an issue. My sling doesn't even come close to touching it and shouldering my rifle on either shoulder is fine. I'm curious as to your reason... if it's something I've overlooked or haven't experienced and could make life easier it'd be good to know!

I have two carriers. One is an ABA and one is a JG Uniforms. Wearing either, my BUG is stored in my off-side cargo pocket.

For those of you who wear electronics (besides your radio), consider how those may effect your stealthiness. My co-worker wears his dept cell phone on his belt and in the middle of a building search someone called him and it illuminated him in the darkness. I also noticed my squad mic pack would blink green or red and it is 10x more noticeable in the darkness so I put a piece of black tape over the indicator light
I've got about halfway between my epaulet and my name tab on my right side (my gun side), so it's a bit lower than if I were wearing it on an epaulet. When I shoulder my rifle, I have to sort of push the mic pack out of the way. Its just not a great place to put it, in my opinion. Next carrier is going to have that particular pocket off my shoulder, anyway.
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They are optional for us and I refuse them for this very reason. I just don't get the point of them at all. They don't get anything off your waste.
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They are optional for us and I refuse them for this very reason. I just don't get the point of them at all. They don't get anything off your waste.
That's a pretty inaccurate statement as there are plenty of options that remove everything but your gun from your waist.

I wear one so when I get hot chasing scumbags thru the swamps I can pop open the side and vent it out or remove it completely. I also wear a modified Back Defender underneath mine which transfers the weight to my shoulders.
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