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Old 02-28-2014, 15:54   #741
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G20 loaded with 2 full mags on my side, M&P 40c loaded with 2 full mags on my wife's, and a 20 ga 8-shot semi-auto under the bed.
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Old 02-28-2014, 17:58   #742
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Why would anyone have a glock unloaded, as your home defense gun? I could see if you had small kids. But even then, mine would still be loaded, and in a quick access finger button lock safe. Not loaded, especially with no kids? If your that afraid, you should not own firearms.
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Old 03-03-2014, 21:01   #743
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I don't have kids at night but never liked the thought of grabbing a chambered pistol in the dark after being awoke from a dead sleep.
My solution was to get a trigger muzzle. My gun has a light so that provided some issues with the ones I saw online.
I work with kydex so I just now finally took the time to make one up custom.
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Old 03-19-2014, 18:49   #744
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G17, Loaded. (17rd. Mag) & 1 in pipe. Laser & night sites. Used to keep leaned against nightstand (live alone) to just reach down, recently put in old paddle holster still leaned against nightstand, mostly to keep dust off & trigger covered. Also have 17rd mag in drawer laying crosswise (so I don't have to guess which is which) on top of 2 10rd. Mags, if it gets as far as needing the 10rounders, I'm in big trouble. Have a light in nightstand drawer, though need a better 1. Also have a Mossberg 500 right behind Glock leaning against wall with empty chamber, safety off & 5-00Buck in tube. Ready to rack & roll, pump is free, no need to try to find button by trigger guard when in panic mode. & maybe just maybe the sound of the rack might work, & if it doesn't, the racking loads it & makes it ready to go. Though since have a lot more experience with Glock then my SG, I'd prob go for Glock 1st as more used to it.
My plan if heard "bump in night" & no one in room is, grab the Glock, spare mag, cell, & light. Hopefully it will be enough to deal with any situation.

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Old 03-19-2014, 21:06   #745
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After depending on my Glock 17 Gen 3 for years I now have my new Glock 41 .45ACP full mag chambered on my bedside table.

I rent the basement of a large suburban home- no kids.
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Old 03-19-2014, 21:59   #746
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What's always been comfortable for me is a TLR-1 equipped Glock 23 in an ADG electronic safe in the closet. The distance from where I lay in bed to the safe in the closet is approximately 8 feet, give or take a couple inches. The gun is kept with a loaded mag inserted, but no round chambered. Also in the safe is an additional loaded mag.

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Old 03-19-2014, 23:04   #747
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I would say whatever you decide to do have a plan and practice it. there's nothing wrong with keeping your gun unchambered, but I would definitely keep my magazine loaded and in the gun no matter how you decide to stoe it. only you will know if you are going to have enough time 2 chamber that round if you decide that it's possible for a criminal to enter your home without you knowing and its also possible you wont have enough time to react I would keep the gun loaded and chamberd. personally I have an early detection system my pitbull no one is going to get even close without me having enough time to react that being said my 1911 is within hands reach cocked and locked next to a flashlight with fresh batteries next to my cell phone
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Old 03-19-2014, 23:36   #748
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I always recommend that people consider having a well trained dog whenever its possible. it's amazing to think how many lives have been saved by our k9 friends. I am talking about the powerful breeds here, ankle biters just won't cut it, I'm sorry if I've offended anybody by saying this I do like small dogs just not in the guard dog roll, the even a small dog can be alert enough to give you some warning they will do absolutely nothing to slow a bad guy down. I know this is not an option for everyone, but it's certainly something to consider. my Glock is an absolute last resort, I wouldn't hesitate to use it, but I'd rather not take a life if I don't have to.
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Old 03-20-2014, 02:52   #749
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Since my G26 is my duty weapon for most days when I am in plainclothes, it is in the rig next to my bed, loaded and ready to go. In the morning, I just get dressed, throw the rig on, and off to work I go.

For those days when I am in uniform, my G34/TLR-2G is next to my bed, no rig since it's a duty belt setup, loaded and ready to go.

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Old 03-20-2014, 03:16   #750
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I don't actually OWN a gun, guns are icky and should be regulated to only the police and military. I'm actually a paid poster, funded by DU and George Soros to join gun forums and promote the liberal progressive socialist agenda, the one true light and the way....

(Okay, I'm pretty sure there ARE guys like I described above registered to post on this forum, but as for ME, well, a Gen 3 G21SF, w/CT laser grip and Streamlight LED light mounted, Ameriglow night sights, fully loaded with 185 gr Golden Sabers + 2 spare mags of same and hand held 750 lumen light. That's for starters...)
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Old 04-01-2014, 17:47   #751
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Originally Posted by GNY View Post
Bedside condoms: intact, or end cut off?
This has to be the dumbest analogy I have ever seen. It doesn't even make sense.

Here's a better analogy for the guys who argue the only way to go is to have one chambered... "Bedside condoms: are you ALWAYS wearing 1 just in case, or do you have them within reach when you need them?"

Both analogies are ridiculous, but at least mine makes some sense.

In order to not just post an off-topic reply, I'd like to answer the original question. Glock 23, full mag inserted, chamber empty. I would like to think that the sound of a window being broken, my front door being kicked in, or my dog barking at any intruder, would give me the 2 seconds needed to rack the slide. If I don't have 2 seconds, I'm probably already screwed.

As for the group going with the silly saying that "an unloaded gun is no more useful than a brick." What a stupid saying!

Let me ask you this, can a brick be manipulated in 2 seconds (racking the slide) to fire 13 projectiles at 1000fps wherever you point it? The answer is no, it can't. So I think the Glock is slightly more useful than a brick.

I have no issues with anyone's personal choice about which condition they keep their HD pistol in. But the guys who are ripping on those that keep it in C-3 are just being ignorant.
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Old 04-01-2014, 18:00   #752
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I don't understand why this topic is still being hashed out. If you choose "condition one" and I do, chamber loaded, then do it. If you choose an empty chamber, then do it. It's YOUR decision. It's not something you try and push onto another person. Do what makes YOU feel comfortable. But, KNOW THIS. Owning and carrying a gun is not suppose to be comfortable, it's COMFORTING. Either way, it's YOUR choice to leave the chamber empty or not. For the love of God, let this dog sleep.
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Old 04-01-2014, 18:39   #753
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Try loading a pistol in the middle of the night after being awaken out of a sound sleep with the fear and adrenaline pumping. Might as well be a monkey trying to "have coitus" with a football. The pistol will be useless.
Excellent answer and to the point.

OP, read this again and again.
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Old 04-01-2014, 19:18   #754
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G19 c3 in quick access safe with full extra mag and flashlight.
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Old 04-01-2014, 19:49   #755
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My bed is against wall, shelf on wall, G19 with lazer and light fully loaded on shelf.
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Old 04-01-2014, 20:24   #756
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Old 04-01-2014, 20:53   #757
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Try loading a pistol in the middle of the night after being awaken out of a sound sleep with the fear and adrenaline pumping. Might as well be a monkey trying to "have coitus" with a football. The pistol will be useless.

I respectfully but strongly disagree. If anything, being required to do a tap & rack beforehand helps clear the cob-webs from my head. I understand that not everyone sleeps as lightly as I do, but on more than one occasion at night, I've had go to my gun, and it is surprisingly fast.

On one particular night, we had a loud crash in our house and I was absolutely certain that someone had kicked open the door and forced entry. I kept a Kimber TLE/RL II stainless 1911 with empty chamber, hammer at half cock, with a full magazine inserted under the edge of the bed out of sight. When I heard the crash, I immediately jumped out of bed at the same time that I grabbed the 1911 (I had the gun positioned so that my right hand would naturally go directly to the grip), racked the slide, swept the safety into the on position and covered the hallway. It was later determined that a China cabinet had collapsed and there was no intruder. My wife later commented that she never imagined I could move that fast and get my defensive handgun into action so quickly. I'm not at all bragging. I'm just saying that it can be done. Rehearse it and give it a try. You'll surprise yourself.
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Old 04-02-2014, 00:06   #758
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i have a holster screwed to the side of my nightstand. g19 loaded ready to go.
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Old 04-02-2014, 02:39   #759
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I think, (since these posts are starting to get a little out of hand), that when posting you should start with your basic situation as that seems to be what a lot of the decisions are based on. Just a simple, live alone, have young kids, have teenagers, have screwy Uncle Louie, etc. & I believe that will clear up a lot of the confusion.
I guess what I have a hard time understanding is, if you live alone, why wouldn't you keep one in the pipe? If your worried about being woken up by a noise & in your fuzzy, groggy state, that you'll grab it by the trigger, why not just put it into a holster or some other way, that covers the trigger?
I used to keep it loaded leaning against my night stand, mostly due to the dust I saw accumulating on it. I took an old pancake holster I have, pulled the lower part of the paddle away from the nightstand, & put the gun in. Now if I go to grab it in the middle of the night, I can't accidental touch the trigger as its covered. As for racking the slide, while I'm not old, my fingers are somewhat stiff when I first wake & can see having just been woken, trouble grasping the slide & loading it. This especially holds true with the Laser Grip I have installed, which can get in the way, especially with a sloppy rack. I believe that grabbing the grip, & pulling it out of the holster with the other hand is a lot faster for me than grabbing the gun & racking it, & this way also prevents accidentally pulling the trigger.
I understand where people are coming from in terms of the fear of having a loaded Glock with no safeties that need to be manipulated. I had that same fear as well. But if after owning one for a while, you still can't get comfortable with a loaded Glock, then maybe a Glock isn't for you.
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:08   #760
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i have a holster screwed to the side of my nightstand. g19 loaded ready to go.
I like the way this man thinks !

I have a holster attached to my bed frame that sits between my nightstand. Totally out of sight but it's right there for me to access. Fully loaded and ready to rock n roll of course !
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