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Old 05-10-2013, 13:52   #1
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Just Bought Some 155 gr HST

And choked at the price. I'm used to getting HST online for $25-27 a box (which I admit, always struck me as weird because ammo over the counter was so close to a buck a round for so long I just got used to it), so $42 seemed like a lot, but I love HST and was happy to find ANY premium .40. Shipping is a crimp in all online ammo purchases, but some places are more reasonable (or I should say less gougeable) than others. Ammunition Depot charged me ten bucks to ship.

Anyway -- all my HST experience is with 180 gr. It's always been accurate in my Glocks. I fired some Gold Dot the other day and got a 4" group, but the HST was under half an inch, as always.

I'm curious about the bullet weight affecting POA. Is it a rule that light bullets shoot low, or just a more-often-than-not thing? Long ago I touched off some Remington Express 155 and it was smoking hot, which distracted me from noticing how it looked on paper.

I'm looking forward to trying out this bullet weight. I guess you can't go wrong with any weight in .40, but all weights have dedicated followers, and I'm entering the territory of the light and fast guys, who I hope will chime in with their 155 gr experiences. I'm normally a heavy for caliber guy, but it being summer, there won't be jackets to plow through. I'm open to liking this weight.

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Old 05-10-2013, 15:54   #2
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If you're low on premium JHP self-defense ammo then your high-dollar purchase is understandable, especially if you were able to find HST. I'm not a .40S&W guy but from what I can tell the 155-165 grain JHP rounds would probably be my choice for self-defense ammo if I do buy a G-23 barrel.
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Old 05-10-2013, 19:05   #3
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I do not carry the 40 much, but carry either the 155 HST or the 165 Ranger T when I do. I think the 155 HST is a good bullet and I read somewhere that the Border Patrol is now, or was, using that round because they do not have to pass through barrier to get to BG. The 155 gr should be a good SD round and it expands rapidly.
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Old 05-10-2013, 19:21   #4
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I used to like the velocity of 155 gr 40.
More velocity and energy sounds great.
But the round generally has a more shallow would channel.

HST 155 Gelatin Penetration 10.5"
HST 165 Gelatin Penetration 12.0"
HST 180 Gelatin Penetration 12.0"

I know it's close,
but 12" is kind of a magic number for me on penetration.

I love Speer GDHP, Federal HST and Winchester Ranger T-Series.
But run 165 or 180, depending on which the gun seems to favor.

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Old 05-11-2013, 20:08   #5
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But the round generally has a more shallow would channel.

HST 155 Gelatin Penetration 10.5"

I love Speer GDHP, Federal HST and Winchester Ranger T-Series, but run 165 or 180, depending on which the gun seems to favor.
You hit all my favorite loads. I don't bother with anything else, unless I try a Double Tap or Buffalo Bore load. I'd trust Black Hills, if I could find it, but there's no denying that HST and Ranger T are awesome and reliable. I've never seen an HST test that didn't look like a lead flower in spring, but I have seen some Ranger open unevenly...

10 inches of penetration seems like a lot until you consider the possibility of bad angle shots, or arms in the way. Not even 180 would get the job done if it had to go through an arm/wrist, but that's the beauty of a hi cap mag. I may settle on 165 as the minimum for carry, but I'm not sorry I bought a box of HST.
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Old 05-12-2013, 08:31   #6
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The Border Patrol did use the 155 grain HST loaded to about 1200 FPS. They switched to the 180 grain HST so the affirmative action employees could shoot them.
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Old 05-12-2013, 10:02   #7
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I used to like the velocity of 155 gr 40.
More velocity and energy sounds great.
But the round generally has a more shallow would channel.

HST 155 Gelatin Penetration 10.5"
HST 165 Gelatin Penetration 12.0"
HST 180 Gelatin Penetration 12.0"

I know it's close,
but 12" is kind of a magic number for me on penetration.

I love Speer GDHP, Federal HST and Winchester Ranger T-Series.
But run 165 or 180, depending on which the gun seems to favor.
You can add about 5 inches to those numbers for real world penetration. A 180 Ranger T will completely penetrate a regular size adult male, and the walls behind him. Since then I take those jello figures and add at least 5 inches.
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Old 05-14-2013, 00:21   #8
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The Border Patrol did use the 155 grain HST loaded to about 1200 FPS. They switched to the 180 grain HST so the affirmative action employees could shoot them.
That was available as the Federal XM40B. Haven't seen it in a while though (like everything else!).

In fairness, the 180gr HST opens up wider than the 155gr and is milder to shoot, as well as penetrating more. However, you don't get the "dynamics" of the hot 155's.
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Old 05-14-2013, 05:39   #9
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Ive ran the HST 155gr in my 23,they hit hard as hell! In MY own testing i found the 155gr to be 2nd best in there .40 line up...180gr being #1.....
All in all your getting a great summer carry round
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Old 05-14-2013, 22:34   #10
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Ive ran the HST 155gr in my 23,they hit hard as hell! In MY own testing i found the 155gr to be 2nd best in there .40 line up...180gr being #1.....
All in all your getting a great summer carry round
Thanks. Always nice to hear I made a good choice.
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Old 05-14-2013, 23:00   #11
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...In MY own testing i found the 155gr to be 2nd best in there .40 line up...180gr being #1....

And what sort of "testing" would that have been?
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Old 05-15-2013, 10:57   #12
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My next Glock may be a G22, and I will definitely try the 155gr loading.
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