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Old 05-12-2013, 22:43   #151
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The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly...that movie has it all: Clint Eastwood, great music, and two kinds of spurs!
And the greatest movie line of all time: "If you're gonna' shoot - shoot, don't talk" - Tuco.
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Old 05-12-2013, 22:46   #152
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Lonesome Dove, best cowboy movie ever. Geronimo with Wes Studi is good; Buffalo Soldiers with Danny Glover is good. The thing about Indians in movies is that authentic costuming is prohibitively expensive. The best chance they have of fair representation is in movies with Apaches in them, because they wore a lot of cotton. Painted-on beadwork on Sioux and Cheyenne warriors makes me gag. Headbands, turkey fathers dipped in ink -- a travesty.

No one in modern times has done the Indian right, not even Dances With Wolves. Graham Greene's character wears a Crow hair style and would have been shot at a distance by any Sioux with a good enough rifle. The one thing that movie does right is represent the democratic decision making process among the Sioux. Otherwise, teh historical elements are all butchered. Post Civil War, the Sious knew damn well how many white people were coming, because they had been dealing with them since the Oregon Trail migrations onf te 1840s.

The closest you can come is something like She Wore A Yellow Ribbon, where the Indians are actual, old time warriors who got swept up in casting. They are awesomely correct, but wasted in the end when the director moves their high plains tipi village out into the Utah desert, or wherever John Ford liked to film. Monument Valley. What a wasted opportunity -- they had a chance to capture an authentic story using authentic Indian 'actors' and they blew it because they were making a white-centric flick with Indians as background scenery.
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Old 05-12-2013, 23:05   #153
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I like comedy westerns too.

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Old 05-12-2013, 23:18   #154
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"That was Wilson, all right, and he was fast, fast on the draw."
So many good ones, but this has all the right ingredients.
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Old 05-13-2013, 05:58   #155
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Haven't read the whole thread, a lot of great movies.

As for only one "best"? For me, I have to say "The Searchers" with John Wayne. It has everything: Cowboys, Indians, civil war veterans, cavalry, kidnapping, farmhouse indian attack, revenge, sweeping vistas, big music, buffalo, even a classic western wedding with a fistfit involving the groom(s). "All I want is a rockin' chair" -- "You don't think I'm crazy, do you?" - "No, you're just tired..." "He has a squaw!!! Haw, haw, haw!"... and of course, John Wayne is in it! With his classic strut!

A lot of great movies are in this thread. And the original poster: Red Sun! I just watched that not too long ago, thanks to Netflix suggestions. I had never heard of it, good movie!

And the Clint Eastwood spaghetti westerns... those are classics. I love the line: "If you are going to shoot, then shoot! Don't talk!" (forget which movie it is from)

And of course Outlaw Josey Wales...

Great movies.
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Old 05-13-2013, 05:59   #156
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And the greatest movie line of all time: "If you're gonna' shoot - shoot, don't talk" - Tuco.
That's the line!
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:15   #157
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Hard to pick! Searchers, Wild bunch, Tombstone, Unforgiven, 310 to Yuma, High Noon, Deadwood if you whoople heads will let me count a mini-series

So many good ones you almost have to break it out by type.
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:31   #158
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"The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance", starring John Wayne, Jimmy Stewart and Lee Marvin.

Honorable Mention:

"Open Range" - starring Kevin Costner (best gunfight ever)

"Tombstone" - starring Kurt Russell and Val Kilmer (an amazing performance)

"The Outlaw Josie Wales" - Starring Clint Eastwood and Chief Dan George (movie would not have been as good without him)
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:55   #159
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Old 05-13-2013, 09:24   #160
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When I first started reading this thread it was easy to name the one favorite.

After reading all of it, I don't even know which one I thought it was anymore. All of these are great and I guess I was going to say "Outlaw Josie Wales". But then someone mentioned "Valdez is Coming", then "Chato's Land". So I guess maybe I don't really have a favorite. I like them all.
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Old 05-13-2013, 11:38   #161
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Unforgiven no question, Josey Wales is equally awesome. Dances with Wolves would be #3.
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Old 05-13-2013, 14:52   #163
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Old 05-13-2013, 15:05   #164
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Tough call, the one that comes to mind this minute is "Open Range"

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Old 05-13-2013, 16:05   #165
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Garden of Evil (1954)
100 min - Action | Adventure | Drama - 9 July 1954 (USA)
A trio of American adventurers marooned in rural Mexico are recruited by a beautiful woman to rescue her husband trapped in cave in Apache territory.

Director:Henry Hathaway
Writers:Frank Fenton (screenplay), Fred Freiberger (story),
Stars:Gary Cooper, Susan Hayward, Richard Widmark

Love this flick!

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7 pages and nobody has mentioned BLACKTHORN Sam Shepard did a great job!
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The Outlaw Josie Wales
That would my pick too.
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Old 05-13-2013, 17:28   #168
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Most of the John Wayne movies. Josey Wales. Clint Eastwood spaghetti westerns. Open Range. Silverado.
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Old 05-13-2013, 17:50   #169
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Just one - Once Upon a Time in the West. Jason Robards was great.
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Old 05-13-2013, 17:59   #170
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And the greatest movie line of all time: "If you're gonna' shoot - shoot, don't talk" - Tuco.
Yeah I love that scene.

Josey Wales - ' you gonna pull those pistols, or whistle 'Dixie'? '
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Old 05-13-2013, 18:07   #172
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Old 05-13-2013, 19:34   #173
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So many good ones, but this has all the right ingredients.
Good vs. evil and several other story lines, you are right. Add a couple of realistic gun fighters with Colt SAA's, (Wilson and Shane, not sure what Joey is packing:

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You all have nominated most of my faves. Alan Ladd made another, more of a Southern than a Western but a hell of a movie:
The Iron Mistress.

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What a wasted opportunity -- they had a chance to capture an authentic story using authentic Indian 'actors' and they blew it because they were making a white-centric flick with Indians as background scenery.
What a surprise.
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