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Old 05-10-2013, 08:19   #26
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Another.

here is mine. It shoots POA/POI at this setting. Its definitely drifted to the right. My other glocks are much more centered.

Another.

Yep, IIRC, that looks pretty close to mine.

Another.

I've had 2 other people shoot it that are great shots and both shoot it straight at this setting. I just let it be and it seems to work fine.

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One of mine is the same way. What causes this?

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Old 05-10-2013, 08:28   #27
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These are posts from real shooters and there are more out there but you should get the picture.

I just purchased a 1994 made gen 2 G19 a couple of weeks ago and replaced the stock sights with Ameriglo Defoors with the rear centered. Yesterday I shot it for the first time and it was shooting way left. I was getting nice one-hole groups at 7 yds but they were about 2.5 in. to the left. At 25 yds shooting at a B8, I was barely making it on paper. Luckily MattO was there with a sight pusher. We ended up having to drift the rear until it was almost flush with the right side of the slide; just like the rear on my gen 3 G17 that I posted about earlier in the thread. It's hitting POA/POI now though.
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Old 05-10-2013, 08:55   #28
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The problem is you're using your first knuckle crease wrapped around the trigger and you're right handed.
You need to back out and use the pad of your trigger finger only. Also, don't anticipate the shot. do these two things and get back with me about how your shooting has improved dramatically.
Thanks. I'm not a new shooter though. I'm actually an NRA Certified Pistol Instructor. I tried both methods of finger placement with the same results. The sight picture was very steady when I took the shots and I let it be a surprise when when the gun shot.

I knew I could move the rear sights to the right a little, but I didn't want to have to do that if there was some other reason like like Slide Lock not aligning to the barrel lugs correctly or something.
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Old 05-10-2013, 09:09   #29
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Glock-Left... Operator Error.

Hold the pistol like a raw egg. Don't break it - Don't drop it.

Then, press the trigger and follow through on the shot.


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Old 05-10-2013, 12:20   #30
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Old 05-10-2013, 16:06   #31
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Interesting thread considering I took my new 21 and 26 (both Gen-4) to the range for the first time last Friday and they both shot left...badly. I'm not a pro, but this ain't my first rodeo either so I was befuddled at what was going on. I hadn't shot in a while due to the climate we have where I live, but to be consistently left with both guns and multiple magazines through each gun I knew it wasn't all me.

Since these were my first Glocks I came away a little confused and disappointed with what I had in my range bag since other handguns I own have never shot this poorly. I guess the next step is to make some sight adjustments to both weapons and try again, but at least I know that I'm not the only one experiencing this phenomenon.

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Old 05-10-2013, 16:41   #32
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Interesting thread considering I took my new 21 and 26 (both Gen-4) to the range for the first time last Friday and they both shot left...badly. I'm not a pro, but this ain't my first rodeo either so I was befuddled at what was going on. I hadn't shot in a while due to the climate we have where I live, but to be consistently left with both guns and multiple magazines through each gun I knew it wasn't all me.

Since these were my first Glocks I came away a little confused and disappointed with what I had in my range bag since other handguns I own have never shot this poorly. I guess the next step is to make some sight adjustments to both weapons and try again, but at least I know that I'm not the only one experiencing this phenomenon.

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A light tap to the rear sight, moving it to the right, fixed my problems.
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Old 05-10-2013, 17:00   #33
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No need for the adjustment tool?

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Old 05-10-2013, 18:05   #34
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OMG. Rampant cluelessness. At this level of firearm ignorance, I am ready to puke. Some where, some body, some time, should have mentioned the idea of "sighting in" a firearm BEFORE they allowed you to have loaded cartridges.

The rear sight moves left and right in a dovetail. For such fantastic shots as those who can make their holes touch, move the sight to the right a little and get on with life. It isn't a gun or a generation or a model, its the location of the rear sight.

If you had a gun with windage adjustable sights, would you refuse to move the blade whining about this generation of 1911 shoots left?

Glock shooters with any sort of clue have their own Glock sight pusher to make this easy and repeatable. Spend $100 and learn something.

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Old 05-10-2013, 18:27   #35
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Well, I've owned several Glocks and every Gen 3 or older I'VE owned shot right on.
My two Gen 4's (21 and 27) both shot left. And I shoot fairly well.
Used a flat soft surface, a rag, a 3/8" bolt, and a small hammer to move the rear sight a little to the right.
Doesn't shoot left anymore.
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Old 05-10-2013, 18:46   #36
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If a Glock or any other quality handgun in good condition and a undamaged crown shoots left, low, high, or right then it's a operator error. I know it sounds ignorant but it's the ugly truth. If you hit the left side of the target all the time then you are most likely pulling the trigger wrong/jerking. And there is nothing wrong with that, not everybody can make certain guns hit where they want it to hit. It's all about training.

A Glock with the rear sight centered like it should be, and loaded up with some okay ammo, then your Glock is so much more accurate than you are. There is just not enough play between the barrel and the slide to make the point of impact drift away that far from the bore axis at self defense distances. I am sure that all Glock barrels are straight as an arrow. To the ammo, doesn't cause any accuracy issues either at SD distances. As long as you use good/okay ammo. The projectiles have to be completly out of balance and symmetry or a piece missing on the back or somewhere else to make drift away a few inches from the bore axis at such short handgun distances. Trigger control is the key!

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Old 05-10-2013, 18:50   #37
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Especially from a Nutter.

My Glocks used to shoot "Left" too...

...and now they don't.


It wasn't the rear sight.




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Old 05-10-2013, 18:59   #38
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It's funny that now my 2 Gen 4 Glocks now hit POA, after I moved the rear sights to the right a little. Just like all of my other handguns, without moving my sights...
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Old 05-11-2013, 08:21   #39
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I have learned that PEOPLE see differently!

What to one person is right on will be off for another.
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Old 05-11-2013, 08:29   #40
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My Gen 3 G17 definitely hits to the left. I have my rear sight 2mm to the right.
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Old 05-11-2013, 08:53   #41
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I have learned that PEOPLE see differently!

What to one person is right on will be off for another.
That's my take. My sights are pushed right. I've just always figured it was some part of my cross dominant issues. (right hand/left eye) The bullet impacts were I aim the gun. Works for me, but now I do want to have someone else shoot my Glocks. Gen4 G27 & G22 if it matters.
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Old 05-11-2013, 09:06   #42
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That's my take. My sights are pushed right. I've just always figured it was some part of my cross dominant issues. (right hand/left eye) The bullet impacts were I aim the gun. Works for me, but now I do want to have someone else shoot my Glocks. Gen4 G27 & G22 if it matters.

If you are cross dominant and you are unable to use the proper technique for this you will have to adjust your sights accordingly.
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If you are cross dominant and you are unable to use the proper technique for this you will have to adjust your sights accordingly.
Exactly, and the proper technique is not difficult at all. You just slightly turn your head to allow the dominant eye to take over the sight picture. The rest of the fundamentals of shooting are the same.
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Old 05-11-2013, 09:25   #44
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Maybe you missed what I was trying to say. Both my Gen4 guns end up with the sights pushed right. I shoot them fine. I had always figured the "shooting left" was me, so I pushed the sights right. No problems, except now I'm curious if it is me.
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Maybe you missed what I was trying to say. Both my Gen4 guns end up with the sights pushed right. I shoot them fine. I had always figured the "shooting left" was me, so I pushed the sights right. No problems, except now I'm curious if it is me.
Not to argue, but I think you're missing the exact point we are trying to bring to your attention. It is you because to compensate for shooting left you moved the sight to the right. If you center your sights again you will be shooting left. What you did is a band aid for your problem. The solution os to learn how to shoot with your cross dominant situation, and it's not difficult at all. Both methods will give you the end result "you"want, but if you're ever not shooting one of your guns again guess what, you will be shooting left.

We are trying to help, not be argumentative. There's a very easy "fix" for your situation, which is more common that you think. Just turn your head slightly to allow the dominant eye to take over the sight picture, very easy to do.
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You're not arguing and I may just be being dense. In fact I am trying to learn here. I do turn my head slightly and I do shoot with my dominant eye and both eyes open.

I am relatively new to the idea of honing my shooting skills. I actually am feeling fairly good about the eye thing. I would be more concerned with it being some other "technical" error. I try to shoot with the pad of my finger. I don't have a flinch.

I do know that yesterday, when I picked up my baby Glock, my first shot was low and left. I could feel that I did it when I shot. When I relaxed and got a new sight picture with both eyes open, my next shot was right were I was aiming.

It is entirely possible I am compensating for something by pushing my sights right. I'm all for correcting it too. I was just curious after reading this thread, if it wasn't me at all.
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You're not arguing and I may just be being dense. In fact I am trying to learn here. I do turn my head slightly and I do shoot with my dominant eye and both eyes open.

I am relatively new to the idea of honing my shooting skills. I actually am feeling fairly good about the eye thing. I would be more concerned with it being some other "technical" error. I try to shoot with the pad of my finger. I don't have a flinch.

I do know that yesterday, when I picked up my baby Glock, my first shot was low and left. I could feel that I did it when I shot. When I relaxed and got a new sight picture with both eyes open, my next shot was right were I was aiming.

It is entirely possible I am compensating for something by pushing my sights right. I'm all for correcting it too. I was just curious after reading this thread, if it wasn't me at all.
It is very hard to diagnose shooter error without being there with the shooter.

However, "typically, shooting low is a flinch anticipating recoil, and shooting left (if you're right handed) is too much finger on the trigger. When you put both together you get the common low and left.

My point was simply that pushing sights to compensate does not fix your problem, it just masks it up.

Getting rid of the flinch and the right amount of finger on the trigger takes patience and practice but can be done.

But as I said it's very difficult to help someone 100% without being present and seeing what they are doing when they shoot.
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Old 05-11-2013, 09:52   #48
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Did I mess something here? I'm understanding that after market sights were installed by a dealer. Correct? They look centered? Looks have nothing to do with it. I'm not seeing where anyone has actually sighted the gun in after installing the sights. You don't just "center" the sights on the slide and expect to go. As someone else stated, you're shooting left so you MUST move the rear sight to the right. Noone can tell you how much, its all trial and error. Continue until you are on windage wise.
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why not just hold your head straight and move the sights in front of the dominate eye?
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OMG. Rampant cluelessness. At this level of firearm ignorance, I am ready to puke. Some where, some body, some time, should have mentioned the idea of "sighting in" a firearm BEFORE they allowed you to have loaded cartridges.

The rear sight moves left and right in a dovetail. For such fantastic shots as those who can make their holes touch, move the sight to the right a little and get on with life. It isn't a gun or a generation or a model, its the location of the rear sight.

If you had a gun with windage adjustable sights, would you refuse to move the blade whining about this generation of 1911 shoots left?

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