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Old 05-10-2013, 08:09   #21
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My late Gen3 19 and all of my Gen4 19s (3 of them) all shot far left.
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Old 05-10-2013, 08:11   #22
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My Gen 3 G17 RTF manufactured mid 2010 does as well. It took a while for me to be convinced that it wasn't me though. I had the rear sight drifted to the right some and now it's right on. My Gen 3 G19 manufactured in May of last year is displaying this as well, although to a lesser degree. This has been comfirmed on both guns, by a couple different competent pistol shooters.
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Old 05-10-2013, 08:13   #23
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Interesting. On most of the 6 GLOCKs I currently own I've had to drift the rear almost the right edge to zero. I thought it was me. All other handguns I own (from other makers) are pretty much dead center of the dovetail on the rear sight.
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Old 05-10-2013, 08:15   #24
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Please don't take this as being arrogant but I have pretty much taken the "it's me" factor out of the equation. I own several Glocks and only have this probably with one of them. I have experienced this with a few others that I have owned. I'm sure it's the gun. My question is what is the mechanical issue that is causing the inconsistency? I have read that it might be the take down lever or the locking block. I plan on swapping parts a bit to see what happens. Is there any way to remedy the issue? The gun I am having the problem with is relatively new (less than 4000 rounds). I have a new G17 on order but it seems that there is no guarantee that I won't have the same issue with the new gun. I have also noticed that wear on the left side if the locking block is much more noticeable than the right side. I guess that would mean that the left side is slightly higher and making more surface contact. Could this be the issue? If so, would lapping that side until wear is even cause more equal lock up? At this point I am pretty much guessing..
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Old 05-10-2013, 08:17   #25
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This is all interesting. On 2 of my glocks i have no issues but on another one, I have the same issue. The sight must be shifted right off center of the slide to shoot straight. I've had 4 people shoot it, plus the owner and head of a well known instruction school and they all had the same results as me...LEFT. I asked him about it, and he said to just drift the sight the right and that he has seen much worse than what my gun did where the sight had to be drifted all the way to the right of the slide. Below, is where my sight needs to be to shoot straight.

AHH for once I actually took a good picture and have no idea how to get the picture in here, sorry. Anyway it had to be drifted far right.
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Old 05-10-2013, 08:19   #26
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here is mine. It shoots POA/POI at this setting. Its definitely drifted to the right. My other glocks are much more centered.

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Yep, IIRC, that looks pretty close to mine.

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I've had 2 other people shoot it that are great shots and both shoot it straight at this setting. I just let it be and it seems to work fine.

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One of mine is the same way. What causes this?

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Old 05-10-2013, 08:28   #27
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These are posts from real shooters and there are more out there but you should get the picture.

I just purchased a 1994 made gen 2 G19 a couple of weeks ago and replaced the stock sights with Ameriglo Defoors with the rear centered. Yesterday I shot it for the first time and it was shooting way left. I was getting nice one-hole groups at 7 yds but they were about 2.5 in. to the left. At 25 yds shooting at a B8, I was barely making it on paper. Luckily MattO was there with a sight pusher. We ended up having to drift the rear until it was almost flush with the right side of the slide; just like the rear on my gen 3 G17 that I posted about earlier in the thread. It's hitting POA/POI now though.
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Old 05-10-2013, 08:55   #28
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The problem is you're using your first knuckle crease wrapped around the trigger and you're right handed.
You need to back out and use the pad of your trigger finger only. Also, don't anticipate the shot. do these two things and get back with me about how your shooting has improved dramatically.
Thanks. I'm not a new shooter though. I'm actually an NRA Certified Pistol Instructor. I tried both methods of finger placement with the same results. The sight picture was very steady when I took the shots and I let it be a surprise when when the gun shot.

I knew I could move the rear sights to the right a little, but I didn't want to have to do that if there was some other reason like like Slide Lock not aligning to the barrel lugs correctly or something.
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Old 05-10-2013, 09:09   #29
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Glock-Left... Operator Error.

Hold the pistol like a raw egg. Don't break it - Don't drop it.

Then, press the trigger and follow through on the shot.


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Old 05-10-2013, 12:20   #30
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Old 05-10-2013, 16:06   #31
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Interesting thread considering I took my new 21 and 26 (both Gen-4) to the range for the first time last Friday and they both shot left...badly. I'm not a pro, but this ain't my first rodeo either so I was befuddled at what was going on. I hadn't shot in a while due to the climate we have where I live, but to be consistently left with both guns and multiple magazines through each gun I knew it wasn't all me.

Since these were my first Glocks I came away a little confused and disappointed with what I had in my range bag since other handguns I own have never shot this poorly. I guess the next step is to make some sight adjustments to both weapons and try again, but at least I know that I'm not the only one experiencing this phenomenon.

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Old 05-10-2013, 16:41   #32
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Interesting thread considering I took my new 21 and 26 (both Gen-4) to the range for the first time last Friday and they both shot left...badly. I'm not a pro, but this ain't my first rodeo either so I was befuddled at what was going on. I hadn't shot in a while due to the climate we have where I live, but to be consistently left with both guns and multiple magazines through each gun I knew it wasn't all me.

Since these were my first Glocks I came away a little confused and disappointed with what I had in my range bag since other handguns I own have never shot this poorly. I guess the next step is to make some sight adjustments to both weapons and try again, but at least I know that I'm not the only one experiencing this phenomenon.

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A light tap to the rear sight, moving it to the right, fixed my problems.
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Old 05-10-2013, 17:00   #33
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No need for the adjustment tool?

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Old 05-10-2013, 18:05   #34
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OMG. Rampant cluelessness. At this level of firearm ignorance, I am ready to puke. Some where, some body, some time, should have mentioned the idea of "sighting in" a firearm BEFORE they allowed you to have loaded cartridges.

The rear sight moves left and right in a dovetail. For such fantastic shots as those who can make their holes touch, move the sight to the right a little and get on with life. It isn't a gun or a generation or a model, its the location of the rear sight.

If you had a gun with windage adjustable sights, would you refuse to move the blade whining about this generation of 1911 shoots left?

Glock shooters with any sort of clue have their own Glock sight pusher to make this easy and repeatable. Spend $100 and learn something.

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Old 05-10-2013, 18:27   #35
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Well, I've owned several Glocks and every Gen 3 or older I'VE owned shot right on.
My two Gen 4's (21 and 27) both shot left. And I shoot fairly well.
Used a flat soft surface, a rag, a 3/8" bolt, and a small hammer to move the rear sight a little to the right.
Doesn't shoot left anymore.
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Old 05-10-2013, 18:46   #36
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If a Glock or any other quality handgun in good condition and a undamaged crown shoots left, low, high, or right then it's a operator error. I know it sounds ignorant but it's the ugly truth. If you hit the left side of the target all the time then you are most likely pulling the trigger wrong/jerking. And there is nothing wrong with that, not everybody can make certain guns hit where they want it to hit. It's all about training.

A Glock with the rear sight centered like it should be, and loaded up with some okay ammo, then your Glock is so much more accurate than you are. There is just not enough play between the barrel and the slide to make the point of impact drift away that far from the bore axis at self defense distances. I am sure that all Glock barrels are straight as an arrow. To the ammo, doesn't cause any accuracy issues either at SD distances. As long as you use good/okay ammo. The projectiles have to be completly out of balance and symmetry or a piece missing on the back or somewhere else to make drift away a few inches from the bore axis at such short handgun distances. Trigger control is the key!

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Old 05-10-2013, 18:50   #37
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Especially from a Nutter.

My Glocks used to shoot "Left" too...

...and now they don't.


It wasn't the rear sight.




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Old 05-10-2013, 18:59   #38
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It's funny that now my 2 Gen 4 Glocks now hit POA, after I moved the rear sights to the right a little. Just like all of my other handguns, without moving my sights...
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Old 05-11-2013, 08:21   #39
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I have learned that PEOPLE see differently!

What to one person is right on will be off for another.
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Old 05-11-2013, 08:29   #40
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My Gen 3 G17 definitely hits to the left. I have my rear sight 2mm to the right.
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