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Old 05-08-2013, 18:29   #21
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Old 05-08-2013, 18:46   #22
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Why not?
One opinion According to Dr. Gary Roberts.
There are many others.


Rather than using larger caliber duty pistols, most CONUS urban LE agencies would be better served by issuing a quality 9 mm handgun (Glock 17/19, S&W M&P9, or HK P30) along with good ammunition, and then spending the majority of their efforts on mandating effective, high quality, ongoing firearms training—a good minimum would be 100 rounds per week of dedicated, objective, monitored and scored training shots.
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Old 05-08-2013, 19:05   #23
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Sig P250 then purchase caliber conversion kits with the upper, barrel, RSA and mags for $199...any flavor you want. Just need to reeducate yourself to a long pull revolver type trigger. mine's a tack driver in .357 Sig!
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Old 05-08-2013, 19:22   #24
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One opinion According to Dr. Gary Roberts.
There are many others.


Rather than using larger caliber duty pistols, most CONUS urban LE agencies would be better served by issuing a quality 9 mm handgun (Glock 17/19, S&W M&P9, or HK P30) along with good ammunition, and then spending the majority of their efforts on mandating effective, high quality, ongoing firearms training—a good minimum would be 100 rounds per week of dedicated, objective, monitored and scored training shots.
BWAHAHAHAHA!!! LOL ROTFLMAO!! Where are you going to find an Admin that will approve the cost of this? Or officers who will actually show up to shoot unless they are being paid for it? Not where I work! (truth hurts) Hell, with this proposal, we'd blow thru a whole years ammo budget in about 2 weeks. Maybe they'll mandate we watch an 8 minute video by some self proclaimed expert about how to shoot instead.
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Old 05-08-2013, 19:26   #25
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There is 9mm ammo around...



If you look hard enough, you can find it.
I went out last weekend, and found 4 boxes, took
half the day but I found it...


Will

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Old 05-08-2013, 19:58   #26
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Go 40 cal. I bought a 27 one day out of bordem and I am glad I did. Got the conversion barrels and can swap around. Still love my 9mm glocks but there is something to be said about having options in a gun.
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Old 05-08-2013, 19:59   #27
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You can also run a G38 slide on it as well.
Had to look the g38 up haha. I don't know that I have ever even seen 45gap ammo ever. Would the slide enable for other conversions like .45acp etc?
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Old 05-08-2013, 20:26   #28
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Looks like the Glock 30 is the Glock for me. It just so happens I know of a shop that has a gen4 G30SF at a good price too

If I can pull together some funds, I may keep my G19 and wait to see if ammo becomes more available. Down the road I may also see about picking up that G23 and ticker with a G38 slide a bit.

Thanks for all the assistance! Now to seek out a thread for accessories...
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Old 05-08-2013, 20:41   #29
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Looks like the Glock 30 is the Glock for me. It just so happens I know of a shop that has a gen4 G30SF at a good price too

If I can pull together some funds, I may keep my G19 and wait to see if ammo becomes more available. Down the road I may also see about picking up that G23 and ticker with a G38 slide a bit.

Thanks for all the assistance! Now to seek out a thread for accessories...
You should keep your G19 and save up for another pistol buy. Although I don't do 9mm, I believe the G19 is one of the best 9mm pistols on the market and ammo supplies will eventually catch up with demand.

The LGS offering is a Gen3 G30SF or Gen4 G30. There isn't a Gen4 G30SF model. The Gen4 G30, without a backstrap adapter installed, is the same frame size and trigger reach as the Gen3 G30SF and replaces that model going forward.

If you have an option to get the Gen4 G30, I think you'll appreciate the more aggressive grip texture for better control of the pistol shooting 45ACP +P or .45 Super ammo and especially if you convert the pistol later to higher-energy calibers such as .460 Rowland, .40 Super, or 10mm Auto. No matter what you shoot, it's a better grip when your hands are wet, sweaty or gloved.

Best of luck finding a good solution for your needs.
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Old 05-09-2013, 01:37   #30
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Keep your Glock 19, and try harder to find ammo. Panic buying is simmering down, and in a couple months ammo will be reasonably available.
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:39   #31
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As corny as that video is, that guy has his facts right and is musically inclined.
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:58   #32
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For me the G21 would be the most versatile, because it is a great carry gun and pretty good on bowling pins.
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I'm going to say a 23 is the most versatile. Barrel swap allows 9mm and .357sig. Buy a .22LR top end, that's 4 calibers in one gun. Small enough to carry concealed, large enough to perform as a full size duty gun. Probably one of the best weight to size to capacity ratios too.
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Same here, Go G23
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