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Old 06-16-2013, 20:23   #1
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H&K recoil vs. Glock recoil

I heard that HK has a recoil suppression system, is that true and is it easier to handle the recoil than a comparable Glock? Thanks!
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Old 06-16-2013, 22:16   #2
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I traded my 21 for my 45C last fall, the 45C is far more controllable IMO, much less flip, that's not to say the 21 is uncontrollable, far from it but I noticed a diff when I shot the HK. My next 45 will be a fullsize Hk45, no question.
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Old 06-16-2013, 22:24   #3
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Thanks

Thank you for the time you took to answer my question... I will look into this.
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I traded my 21 for my 45C last fall, the 45C is far more controllable IMO, much less flip, that's not to say the 21 is uncontrollable, far from it but I noticed a diff when I shot the HK. My next 45 will be a fullsize Hk45, no question.
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I heard that HK has a recoil suppression system, is that true and is it easier to handle the recoil than a comparable Glock? Thanks!
I notice it in .40 and .45. Not so much in 9mm.
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Recoil perception is really a individual thing. Get 10 different people on the same gun and all 10 will report something different!


With that said, I feel less recoil with the HK's than I do with Gen 3 and older Glocks. The Gen 4 guns feel about the same (dare I say a little better) than the HK's in recoil, at least in .40 S&W.

HK is still king when it comes to a poly .45 though in my opinion. I haven't shot another poly .45 that even comes close to a HK.

Keep in mind this is my opinion and may not be the way it works out for you.
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Old 06-16-2013, 22:34   #6
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Thanks !

My wife and I thank you Diesel Girl... we will certainly try out some HK & Gen 4 rentals at the range.

**QUESTION: Do you carry an HK, Glock ? What would you recommend for my wife? HK? Thanks

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Recoil perception is really a individual thing. Get 10 different people on the same gun and all 10 will report something different!


With that said, I feel less recoil with the HK's than I do with Gen 3 and older Glocks. The Gen 4 guns feel about the same (dare I say a little better) than the HK's in recoil, at least in .40 S&W.

HK is still king when it comes to a poly .45 though in my opinion. I haven't shot another poly .45 that even comes close to a HK.

Keep in mind this is my opinion and may not be the way it works out for you.
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Old 06-16-2013, 22:47   #7
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My wife and I thank you Diesel Girl... we will certainly try out some HK & Gen 4 rentals at the range.

**QUESTION: Do you carry an HK, Glock ? What would you recommend for my wife? HK? Thanks

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First off, your welcome!

I carry a full size HK45 but I'm really digging the Gen 4 Glock 22 .40 lately.

For your wife, I'd recommend that she shoot several different models of Glocks and HK's and in 9mm, .40, and .45 so she can see what she likes best and most importantly, what she shoots best.

She may even find neither the Glock or HK work for her. It's very important not to get too attached to any one brand when shopping for a gun. You want what fits and what works best for you and your situation. As long as it's a quality gun from one of the major manufactures, your good to go.

I wish you luck and good shooting!

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Old 06-16-2013, 23:18   #8
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Thank you!

You carry FULL SIZE? Oh, my. Thanks for your input we certainly have a lot more range work to do for sure.



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First off, your welcome!

I carry a full size HK45 but I'm really digging the Gen 4 Glock 22 .40 lately.

For your wife, I'd recommend that she shoot several different models of Glocks and HK's and in 9mm, .40, and .45 so she can see what she likes best and most importantly, what she shoots best.

She may even find neither the Glock or HK work for her. It's very important not to get too attached to any one brand when shopping for a gun. You want what fits and what works best for you and your situation. As long as it's a quality gun from one of the major manufactures, your good to go.

I wish you luck and good shooting!

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I shoot a G17 and P30 in IDPA/USPSA and the P30 seems to shoot softer, but the slide seems to cycle slower affecting split times. But for me, I lose more time in target transitions and movement than anything else so its a non issue. I plan to switch to just running the P30 soon.


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Recoil perception is really a individual thing. Get 10 different people on the same gun and all 10 will report something different!


With that said, I feel less recoil with the HK's than I do with Gen 3 and older Glocks. The Gen 4 guns feel about the same (dare I say a little better) than the HK's in recoil, at least in .40 S&W.......

Interesting.........are you comparing the USP in .40 to the Gen 4?
And experience with a P30 in 40?
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:12   #11
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different guns feel different. different grain ammo and whether it is +p makes a difference. my best answer is to get the fundamentals down with a quality gun and go from there.

while this video is shown with a 1911 the fundamentals apply to all handguns.

http://youtu.be/ysa50-plo48

here is a first person view of a stage i shot during a uspsa match with a full size usp .40.


here is a picture of me taken last month in a competition. notice the empty case in the air and gun back on target.

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Old 06-17-2013, 09:26   #12
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I agree with Majette that training and technique will make much more of a difference in how recoil affects your shooting performance than which gun you use. The manual of arms for HK and Glock are very different, and you should choose between them based primarily on that--not the minor differences in how the guns recoil. Do you want a SA/DA design or a striker-based design?

I strongly recommend getting some professional training, as part of choosing your gun. What "feels good" in your hand doesn't have very much to do with whether it will be a good weapon for you.

Here's a pic of my 13 year old girl to underscore Majette's point about technique. (Note that her Glock 17 has returned to target as the shell is still visible):

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Old 06-17-2013, 10:14   #13
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Thank you high ground.... nice to hear from a competition shooter...

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I shoot a G17 and P30 in IDPA/USPSA and the P30 seems to shoot softer, but the slide seems to cycle slower affecting split times. But for me, I lose more time in target transitions and movement than anything else so its a non issue. I plan to switch to just running the P30 soon.


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Old 06-17-2013, 10:21   #14
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Thanks to everyone responding, your suggestions are appreciated. Once we are settled in our new state this summer we will enjoy exploring all the options. Thanks again!
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Old 06-17-2013, 11:49   #15
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FWIW, I had both HK 45c and G30Sf. Both had a Hogue rubber sleeve on the grip. Personally I felt the G30SF had slightly less kick to it. However the difference was negligible.

Both are accurate and easily back on target quickly. While the G30SF is shorter in length, but fatter in width I still find it easier to carry.
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Recoil perception is really a individual thing. Get 10 different people on the same gun and all 10 will report something different!


With that said, I feel less recoil with the HK's than I do with Gen 3 and older Glocks. The Gen 4 guns feel about the same (dare I say a little better) than the HK's in recoil, at least in .40 S&W.

HK is still king when it comes to a poly .45 though in my opinion. I haven't shot another poly .45 that even comes close to a HK.

Keep in mind this is my opinion and may not be the way it works out for you.
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As usual, I agree with Deanna - LOL!
I own five models of HK and they really shine in 45 ACP.

USP Tactical 45 Full Size
HK45 Compact
P30 40
P2000 357
P2000SK 40

The one surprise to me was how soft shooting the P2000SK is.
It's dual RSA and extra weight reduces the felt recoil,
in my hands, when compared to my G27.
Make sure you look at one.
And check out HKs LEM trigger too.

Good Luck!

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Old 06-17-2013, 20:08   #17
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H&K recoil vs. Glock recoil

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As usual, I agree with Deanna - LOL!
I own five models of HK and they really shine in 45 ACP.

USP Tactical 45 Full Size
HK45 Compact
P30 40
P2000 357
P2000SK 40

The one surprise to me was how soft shooting the P2000SK is.
It's dual RSA and extra weight reduces the felt recoil,
in my hands, when compared to my G27.
Make sure you look at one.
And check out HKs LEM trigger too.

Good Luck!
I'll second that on the P2000sk. I did not dig my G23 but I like my P2000sk .40.

LEM of course.
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finally, my pistol training video.

Blactical QuikTrain - Pistol Mechanics - YouTube

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I like the video part where you shot the gun through cam's viewfinder! Good one!
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I agree with Majette that training and technique will make much more of a difference in how recoil affects your shooting performance than which gun you use. The manual of arms for HK and Glock are very different, and you should choose between them based primarily on that--not the minor differences in how the guns recoil. Do you want a SA/DA design or a striker-based design?

I strongly recommend getting some professional training, as part of choosing your gun. What "feels good" in your hand doesn't have very much to do with whether it will be a good weapon for you.

Here's a pic of my 13 year old girl to underscore Majette's point about technique. (Note that her Glock 17 has returned to target as the shell is still visible):

Heckler & Koch Forum
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Recoil perception is really a individual thing. Get 10 different people on the same gun and all 10 will report something different!
I would agree with this...
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