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Old 04-30-2013, 22:22   #26
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I could say that technically I don't drink at all, cause I only drink on christmas when all my brothers are down here for the holidays. I used to be a heavy liquor drinker. Specially Mezcal or tequila, and I could go thru several bottles in one night. I just turned 40 and I lost interest in any alcohol. I never got to like beer to the point to crave it. When I felt pressured to drink beer just to sociolize with relatives, there was only a select group of beers I could stand. I never got anything from drinking alcohol other than a bloated stomach and bladder. Same thing happened with cigarrettes. I could smoke pack after pack, cause that is what the other kids were doing, but never got anything out of it. So one day I just quitted and never smoked again. Now cigars, I do smoke in special ocasions, but it has to be " habano".
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Old 04-30-2013, 22:22   #27
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I don't like the taste.
Do you like bitter or complex flavors generally?

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Beer tastes like horse piss.
Good beer can have incredibly complex flavor profiles. There are beers that taste like freshly baked bread, beers that taste like summer fruits, beers that taste like dark chocolate and coffee...

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Wine taste like rotten grape juice.
Wine is even more complex! A good wine is one of life's most fundamental pleasures.

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Sake tastes like turpentine.
I'm with you there, I don't like sake.
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Old 04-30-2013, 22:26   #28
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I almost never do. It doesn't agree with a few medical issues I have, namely EE & GERD.
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Old 04-30-2013, 22:27   #29
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The Apostle Paul (through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit) commands the Church in Ephesians 5:18 to not get drunk:

"And do not get drunk with wine, for that is debauchery, but be filled with the Spirit,"

He also says in his letter to the Romans (Rom. 13:13-14):
"Let us walk properly as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and sensuality, not in quarreling and jealousy. But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to gratify its desires."

There are other passages but these 2 are fairly clear directives. Please understand though that I am not a perfect individual--as no Christians are...I still struggle with temptations to sin even though drunkenness is not one of them for me.
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i agree, i dont remember it i n the bible.
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Old 04-30-2013, 22:28   #31
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Nope. I never had the desire, but then, my main reasons are...

(1) The Bible makes it clear that getting drunk is sin in God's eyes.
(2) As a Christian, though I know the Bible doesn't explicitly say that you can't drink alcohol, I don't want to put myself in the position of possibly sinning by getting drunk.

My analogy is if I was told that if I ever burnt my hand then I'd get in serious trouble, why would I hold my hand over a red-hot heating range?
I understand that is a very common view in Christianity...and understandable.

From a Jewish standpoint, two thoughts that a lot of people probably wouldnt know.

In Traditional Judaism, there are actually two days a year that we are commanded to get drunk. (Purin and Simchat Torah) On Purim, it is even specific how drunk you must get (where you cant tell the difference between two specific names in the story)

And, in one of Judaism holiest works, (the Talmud) we are told things like

Wine opens the mind.

Wine is better than any medicine.

When wine goes in, the truth comes out."

Moderate consumption of alcohol as a blessing but taken in excess, it quickly turns into a curse.


There is an idea that sometimes we must think, and sometimes we must feel. We think with the mind and feel with the heart. A little booze can help cut the link and make one feel far more when that is what is needed.
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Old 04-30-2013, 22:30   #32
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Because I don't hate my life. It is unhealthy. Seems counter intuitive to impair oneself willingly. I would rather spend my time doing something constructive, instead of being in a self inflicted drugged stupor.

I can handle/enjoy life without a need to temporary escape reality.

I have recognized the subcouncious death drive and refuse to allow it to control me.
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Old 04-30-2013, 22:32   #33
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debauchery is fun!
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Old 04-30-2013, 22:34   #35
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Big fan of micro brewery beers. Don't drink (Even beer) any longer due to gastro health issues :(

I miss having a beer here or there ... But, I'd rather have my health and be around longer with family

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On Purim, it is even specific how drunk you must get (where you cant tell the difference between two specific names in the story)
Interesting, especially as I'm preparing to teach through the Book of Esther with my teens (I'm an assistant pastor at my church). I've read that the Persians would purposefully get drunk to the same level when making important decisions in order for them to see if they still came to the same conclusions when completely drunk. I wonder if there is any connection with that philosophy and the Biblical understanding behind Purim as recorded in the Book of Esther.
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Old 04-30-2013, 22:39   #37
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I will say, that with a buzz, I drop my inhibitions like a cloak. That can be a good thing or a bad thing - a drunk mouth speaks a sober mind - depending.

After spending the first 18.5 years of my life in religious indoc., I've found that I'd rather laugh with the sinners, than cry with the saints.
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when im drunk smoking a cigarette seems like a good idea. Never smoke em sober though.....
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Do you like bitter or complex flavors generally?



Good beer can have incredibly complex flavor profiles. There are beers that taste like freshly baked bread, beers that taste like summer fruits, beers that taste like dark chocolate and coffee...



Wine is even more complex! A good wine is one of life's most fundamental pleasures.



I'm with you there, I don't like sake.
I am really getting knowledgeable about beer. I go to tastings. Have taken classes (we have a super mega booze store that hold a lot of classes) I subscribe to a magazine. Am a member on a few forums and I keep a notebook of what I try. Man, is it fun. I REALLY dig the adventure of beer....but it isnt about "drinking" it is pretty much the same as trying new food.

As for wine, I am a little behind. Lady Rabbi is not a beer person but is a wine person. She is on an adventure learning about wine. Being part of that with her has been a lot of fun (even if beer is still my thing)

I really would like to have a GT get together and go to Shiner Texas. (I wish you would come if we did, I'll send a damned jet) In the past, every GT get together I have done/been a part of was awesome (Shot Show, range days....)
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I understand that is a very common view in Christianity...and understandable.

From a Jewish standpoint, two thoughts that a lot of people probably wouldnt know.

In Traditional Judaism, there are actually two days a year that we are commanded to get drunk. (Purin and Simchat Torah) On Purim, it is even specific how drunk you must get (where you cant tell the difference between two specific names in the story)

And, in one of Judaism holiest works, (the Talmud) we are told things like

Wine opens the mind.

Wine is better than any medicine.

When wine goes in, the truth comes out."

Moderate consumption of alcohol as a blessing but taken in excess, it quickly turns into a curse.


There is an idea that sometimes we must think, and sometimes we must feel. We think with the mind and feel with the heart. A little booze can help cut the link and make one feel far more when that is what is needed.
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Old 04-30-2013, 22:42   #41
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Alcohol consumption Yes/No
No - last time I consumed was more than 20 years ago.

Why?

I had already consumed more than my fair share for a person with a very long life, yet I was still pretty young. So I stopped drinking to give everyone else 80 years or so to fail at trying to catch up with me. ;-)
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Wow, I learned something today.
It is true.

How Drunk Is Drunk?

"Rava said: It is one's duty levasumei, to make oneself fragrant [with wine] on Purim until one cannot tell the difference between 'arur Haman' (cursed be Haman) and 'barukh Mordekhai' (blessed be Mordecai)" (Babylonian Talmud, Megillah 7b).



http://www.myjewishlearning.com/holi...on_Purim.shtml
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I drink about 3-4 times a year but not enough to get drunk. Problem is that I am getting quite the collection of 'shine from folks at work.


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Booze is great, you should try getting your swerve on! Thing is when you hold a nice cold beer compared to the bible, you know it's real and it will actually have a pleasurable effect on you.

There's lots of life's simple pleasures to be had instead of ignoring them buy following some umpteen thousand year old book.

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Nope. I never had the desire, but then, my main reasons are...

(1) The Bible makes it clear that getting drunk is sin in God's eyes.
(2) As a Christian, though I know the Bible doesn't explicitly say that you can't drink alcohol, I don't want to put myself in the position of possibly sinning by getting drunk.

My analogy is if I was told that if I ever burnt my hand then I'd get in serious trouble, why would I hold my hand over a red-hot heating range?
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The Apostle Paul (through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit) commands the Church in Ephesians 5:18 to not get drunk:

"And do not get drunk with wine, for that is debauchery, but be filled with the Spirit,"

He also says in his letter to the Romans (Rom. 13:13-14):
"Let us walk properly as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and sensuality, not in quarreling and jealousy. But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to gratify its desires."

There are other passages but these 2 are fairly clear directives. Please understand though that I am not a perfect individual--as no Christians are...I still struggle with temptations to sin even though drunkenness is not one of them for me.
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when im drunk smoking a cigarette seems like a good idea. Never smoke em sober though.....
When you're drunk a lot of things seem like a good idea that don't when you're sober.
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I'll play. From 18 to 27 was a blur. I spent my time and money on alcohol and parties.
Don't have crap to show for that time other than a scar on my right bicep and across the back of my right hand from a knife fight.

Age 28 got married. Quit drinking cold turkey. Promised to be a good husband, provider, and most importantly father. I wanted kids so bad, I knew that I had to change. My life to date is pleasantly fulfilled. I have a great wife, 2 great kids.
Not perfect, great to me, and that's what counts.

We all have faults. Alcohol made mine worse. I didn't want to be a bad example to my kids. Having drunk relatives that make complete fools of themselves in front of family, and guests, really is a no brainer.

To each his own. I'm not perfect. I had a goal to make, and I'm trying hard every day to keep it that way.
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When you're drunk a lot of things seem like a good idea that don't when you're sober.
which is why alcohol leads to more fun!
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I don't drink because of medicines I take. But, really I never really liked it when I was in college...oddly I went to a small Baptist college...I thought "Animal House" was a documentary from my days there...LOL!
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I just turned 21, and I don't drink at all. Tried a couple of drinks on my 21st but didn't care for them.

Why? History of alcoholism on both sides of my family. Not worth risking it, in my opinion. As others have said, being drunk isn't "cool", despite what most of my generation thinks.

I don't care if others enjoy it. Most of my family does. Just ain't for me.

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