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Old 06-22-2013, 16:51   #101
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Need a little extra in your quiver ? They are not legal for use in most states, but are legal to own in most states....you just never know....Rac-Em-Bac.com arrowheads you load a .38/.357 round in....they work.....
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Old 06-22-2013, 21:28   #102
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A few reasons for posting:

1. disproves the supposition that shooting a bow must be slow.

2. illustrates why you (who would use a rifle, pistol or shotgun) should be taught to shoot, unload, reload while in movement.
I received training to shoot, unload, reload while in motion - running or walking. For those of you who shoot CMP meets, get permission to shoot the 100 yard standing leg while in movement. With adequate training, you will do as well as guys with heavy jackets, stiff uncomfortable posture, and tight slings. You want to be able to move (less of a target) and shoot accurately in combat.
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Old 06-22-2013, 21:37   #103
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Archery - Fast Shooting (Murmansk) - YouTube

A few reasons for posting:

1. disproves the supposition that shooting a bow must be slow.

2. illustrates why you (who would use a rifle, pistol or shotgun) should be taught to shoot, unload, reload while in movement.
I received training to shoot, unload, reload while in motion - running or walking. For those of you who shoot CMP meets, get permission to shoot the 100 yard standing leg while in movement. With adequate training, you will do as well as guys with heavy jackets, stiff uncomfortable posture, and tight slings. You want to be able to move (less of a target) and shoot accurately in combat.
Hopefully just about any of us could meet or exceed that with a handgun, and I doubt we are good enough to be put on YouTube.
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Old 06-23-2013, 05:36   #104
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Most people should be faster with a handgun, but sometimes being quiet is also very necessary.............
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Old 06-23-2013, 14:46   #105
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Most people should be faster with a handgun, but sometimes being quiet is also very necessary.............
What situation do you imagine where shooting a bow in the manner shown in that video would be better than doing so with a handgun, due to the noise?
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Old 06-23-2013, 15:05   #106
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Maybe some place where you don't want the neighbors or other people to hear a gun shot.....plenty of places and reasons....use your imagination......
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Maybe some place where you don't want the neighbors or other people to hear a gun shot.....plenty of places and reasons....use your imagination......
Dang, I was hoping you could provide something of use that would support your position or substantiate your claim.
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Old 06-23-2013, 17:03   #108
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They make total sense if your trying to stay covert. Hunting with a bow is way better then even hunting with a suppressed firearm in my opinion. I own several suppressors in different calibers so I am giving my opinion based on my personal information.
Would I rather pack a suppressed .22 rifle around in a back pack if mobile , yes.
But if I am hunting from a base camp and dont want attention,then a bow makes sense to me.
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Old 06-23-2013, 17:22   #109
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...Hunting with a bow is way better then even hunting with a suppressed firearm in my opinion...
In what way? Just curious how you mean this.
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Well if your trying to be covert then its quiet. Do you own or have used a suppressed rifle or pistol? They are not totally silent.Its my opinion only that its better. Doesnt mean its correct...
but I own and shoot suppressed from .22 up to .223 and 5.56mm. Granted with the right rifle and sub sonic ammo you can get whisper quiet. My CZ 452 with sub sonic is pretty damn quiet but I think a bow and arrow would be quieter altho follow up shots would not be as fast. It would be used for only certain situations. sure its flawed somewhere but...Just an opinion Im not here to argue anyones point.

*Used from a fixed base camp to hunt in a area that has certain unfriendly people in that area I want avoid and to bring meat home from (deer,pig,cow...)....
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Old 06-23-2013, 18:52   #111
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You also have to A. Get alot closer, and B. Track whatever it was you hit with an arrow.


A suppressed rifle shot to the side of the head at 100m and dinner is waiting.


Just food for thought.


I have a bow, I'm pretty ok with it. And I'd use it in SHTF if ammo was really scarce, but I place it far below a rifle in the terms of actual useage.
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Old 06-24-2013, 09:38   #112
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Well if your trying to be covert then its quiet. Do you own or have used a suppressed rifle or pistol? They are not totally silent.Its my opinion only that its better. Doesnt mean its correct...
but I own and shoot suppressed from .22 up to .223 and 5.56mm. Granted with the right rifle and sub sonic ammo you can get whisper quiet. My CZ 452 with sub sonic is pretty damn quiet but I think a bow and arrow would be quieter altho follow up shots would not be as fast. It would be used for only certain situations. sure its flawed somewhere but...Just an opinion Im not here to argue anyones point.

*Used from a fixed base camp to hunt in a area that has certain unfriendly people in that area I want avoid and to bring meat home from (deer,pig,cow...)....
Yeah, wasn't trying to be contentious or disagree; I just don't bowhund and was curious about how you meant 'better' and in what way. Strangely enough, I also have a CZ-452 that I run a suppressor on, and as you say it's very quiet in addition to being nearly crazy accurate.

I do shoot a fair amount of rounds thru suppressed pistols (.22LR & 9mm) and suppressed rifles/carbines (.22LR, .223, 9mm, and .38spl), but don't have the personal bowhunting experience to make a first-hand comparison. I'd be completely comfortable using subsonics from a suppressed carbine in .38spl (158-grain JSP @ 1050fps = more power than .45 acp hardball) for poaching deer in an emergency situation. But using subsonic rimfires for that purpose would be way down on my list of preferred options.
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Old 06-24-2013, 09:44   #113
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Most people should be faster with a handgun, but sometimes being quiet is also very necessary.............
Not too mention, you can't go pick up your bullets and use them over again.
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Old 06-24-2013, 20:56   #114
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A bow or crossbow is a relatively inexpensive prep that may or may not be useful under certain conditions, but few of them pack well.

One alternative is a powerful slingshot. Use it for birds and small game at short range. Then add a string as a rest and use it to shoot broadhead arrows up to about 20 yards.
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