GlockTalk.com
Home Forums Classifieds Blogs Today's Posts Search Social Groups



  
SIGN-UP
Notices

Glock Talk
Welcome To The Glock Talk Forums.

 
  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-01-2013, 11:50   #41
SCmasterblaster
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Hartford, Vermont
Posts: 16,020
Quote:
Originally Posted by happie2shoot View Post
You can learn much here, proceed with caution.
These guys shoot much more than 99% of the people out there,
they must know something most don't.


http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showforum=72
Those guys are all ammo reloaders - we are talking here about +p and +p+ factory loads here.
__________________
Gun Ownership Offers Freedom in Many Dimensions
SCmasterblaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2013, 13:14   #42
Tiro Fijo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 6,245
Quote:
Originally Posted by happie2shoot View Post
I have never seen a fully supported chamber on any Glock barrels
including the aftermarkes barrels...

That's because the only entirely supported handgun barrels are on revolvers and single shots. If a semi auto had a fully supported chamber, as you allude to, it would never feed.
Tiro Fijo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2013, 14:18   #43
dkf
Senior Member
 
dkf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 4,637
My 31, 32 and 33 are almost identical to the 17, 19 and 26. Some even use identical RSAs. Factory .357sig loads are at approx the same pressures as 9mm +P+ just more velocity. The Glocks handle those .357sig rounds fine.

Will hot +P+ loads increase wear on the gun, most likely. Will the gun handle it, yes. When you stop and think the cost of the +P+ ammo to wear out the gun far exceeds what a new Glock would cost.
dkf is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2013, 14:37   #44
Christopher67
Senior Member
 
Christopher67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Maine
Posts: 250
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiro Fijo View Post
That's because the only entirely supported handgun barrels are on revolvers and single shots. If a semi auto had a fully supported chamber, as you allude to, it would never feed.


So KKM, Storm Lake & Bar-Sto are not fully supported barrels?
Christopher67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2013, 14:41   #45
happie2shoot
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 747
Tiro Fijo

That's because the only entirely supported handgun barrels are on revolvers and single shots. If a semi auto had a fully supported chamber, as you allude to, it would never feed.

I know that but there are many that think that they can buy a fully supported chamber
for their Glocks, they can't.

My gen4 mod27 has more support than my after market FULLY SUPPORTED barrel, the new Glocks are getting more perfect than the old perfect Glocks.

My old mod23 didn't have as much support.

Just my experence I'm not trying to be comfrontational.
happie2shoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2013, 14:47   #46
dkf
Senior Member
 
dkf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 4,637
Quote:
Originally Posted by Christopher67 View Post
So KKM, Storm Lake & Bar-Sto are not fully supported barrels?
No. There is still relief at the feed ramp. The current 9mm and .357sig barrels have very good support. The .40 barrels are much better than they used to be in the support area also.

Last edited by dkf; 05-01-2013 at 14:48..
dkf is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2013, 14:50   #47
Christopher67
Senior Member
 
Christopher67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Maine
Posts: 250
Quote:
Originally Posted by dkf View Post
No. There is still relief at the feed ramp. The current 9mm and .357sig barrels have very good support. The .40 barrels are much better than they used to be in the support area also.

So would it be a waste of money to buy a barrel for my Gen4 G23 then?
Christopher67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2013, 15:00   #48
happie2shoot
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 747
get the 357sig and 9mm and 40s&w

Quote:
Originally Posted by Christopher67 View Post
So would it be a waste of money to buy a barrel for my Gen4 G23 then?
Get the 357sig and 9mm conversion and 40s&w, it makes your
mod 23 one most versatile pistols you can get.
You can use them in a mod27 also, it's what sold me on the
Glock.
happie2shoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2013, 15:02   #49
Christopher67
Senior Member
 
Christopher67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Maine
Posts: 250
Quote:
Originally Posted by happie2shoot View Post
Get the 357sig and 9mm conversion and 40s&w, it makes your
mod 23 one most versatile pistols you can get.
You can use them in a mod27 also, it's what sold me on the
Glock.

Yea thats what im probably going to do, recoil spring in the .357sig & the the one in the .40 S&W the same?
Christopher67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2013, 15:13   #50
happie2shoot
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 747
I don't know but if it throws the brass real far you might need a stronger RSA,
if it doesn't through it far enough you will need a weaker one.

I did not need to change anything with my 3 Lone Wolf barrels.
happie2shoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2013, 15:22   #51
SCmasterblaster
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Hartford, Vermont
Posts: 16,020
Quote:
Originally Posted by dkf View Post
My 31, 32 and 33 are almost identical to the 17, 19 and 26. Some even use identical RSAs. Factory .357sig loads are at approx the same pressures as 9mm +P+ just more velocity. The Glocks handle those .357sig rounds fine.

Will hot +P+ loads increase wear on the gun, most likely. Will the gun handle it, yes. When you stop and think the cost of the +P+ ammo to wear out the gun far exceeds what a new Glock would cost.
I don't fire a lot of +p+ 9x19 cartridges. They just sit in four of my G17 magazines waiting for trouble.
__________________
Gun Ownership Offers Freedom in Many Dimensions
SCmasterblaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2013, 15:44   #52
ULVER
Dixie Rebel
 
ULVER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: ATL., GA. USA
Posts: 2,928
Send a message via Yahoo to ULVER


Quote:
Originally Posted by SCmasterblaster View Post
I occasionally shoot +p+ 115gr 9mm in my G17 - no problems so far. 1400 FPS out of my chronograph.
That doesn't surprise me. Back when we were testing +P+ L/E loads, the Winchester was the fastest, followed by Remington and Federal.

Of course, as I have noted, along came Cor Bon's +P load, at a blistering 1,350fps! It too, was good for getting close to 1,400 on a good day.
__________________
Last night fear knocked on the door...
Courage answered... There was no one there...
ACCURACY BEATS HORSEPOWER/TACTICS MEAN EVERYTHING
In memory of Off. Steven Trindle
In memory of Det. Dennis C. Stepnowski
ULVER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2013, 16:24   #53
happie2shoot
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 747
That's not a +P+ round mate, this a +P+ round,

http://www.underwoodammo.com/9mmluge...boxof50-2.aspx

They went 1443 from my 3 15/16'' p95 and 1613 from my 6 1/2'' Blackhawk, I likey.
happie2shoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2013, 16:58   #54
Christopher67
Senior Member
 
Christopher67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Maine
Posts: 250
Quote:
Originally Posted by happie2shoot View Post
I don't know but if it throws the brass real far you might need a stronger RSA,
if it doesn't through it far enough you will need a weaker one.

I did not need to change anything with my 3 Lone Wolf barrels.


Ok thanks.
Christopher67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2013, 17:46   #55
dkf
Senior Member
 
dkf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 4,637
Quote:
Originally Posted by Christopher67 View Post
So would it be a waste of money to buy a barrel for my Gen4 G23 then?
In my opinion, yes. Only time I would even consider a non Glock barrel is if 1) Glock does not offer a barrel I want for my Glock 2) Have cast hand loads that do not work well in the Glock barrel.

Quote:
Yea thats what im probably going to do, recoil spring in the .357sig & the the one in the .40 S&W the same?
Should be the same RSA for .40 and .357sig. The Gen4 G19 uses a different RSA however. My .357sig Glocks throw brass far, lot of slide velocity.

Last edited by dkf; 05-01-2013 at 17:49..
dkf is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2013, 18:29   #56
Christopher67
Senior Member
 
Christopher67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Maine
Posts: 250
Quote:
Originally Posted by dkf View Post
In my opinion, yes. Only time I would even consider a non Glock barrel is if 1) Glock does not offer a barrel I want for my Glock 2) Have cast hand loads that do not work well in the Glock barrel.



Should be the same RSA for .40 and .357sig. The Gen4 G19 uses a different RSA however. My .357sig Glocks throw brass far, lot of slide velocity.

Awesome, thanks.
Christopher67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2013, 05:46   #57
SCmasterblaster
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Hartford, Vermont
Posts: 16,020
Quote:
Originally Posted by happie2shoot View Post
That's not a +P+ round mate, this a +P+ round,

http://www.underwoodammo.com/9mmluge...boxof50-2.aspx

They went 1443 from my 3 15/16'' p95 and 1613 from my 6 1/2'' Blackhawk, I likey.
Out of stock, as expected.
__________________
Gun Ownership Offers Freedom in Many Dimensions
SCmasterblaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2013, 06:48   #58
happie2shoot
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 747
I have used two different underwood ammo types and talk to the owner and
have nothing but good things to say about them, it usually goes faster than
stated.

For you that don't want +p or +P+ good ,that means more for me.
happie2shoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2013, 07:40   #59
SCmasterblaster
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Hartford, Vermont
Posts: 16,020
Here in leftist Vermont, there are still a few gun-owning Green Mountain Boys. I am one of them.
__________________
Gun Ownership Offers Freedom in Many Dimensions
SCmasterblaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2013, 07:53   #60
Chesafreak
Senior Member
 
Chesafreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Chesapeake, VA
Posts: 1,851
I would shoot +P+ out of a G26 on a limited basis. I would not shoot it out of a .40 S&W since that caliber doesn't even have a +P rating. Anything beyond SAAMI specs in a Glock .40 S&W is dangerous IMO.
Chesafreak is online now   Reply With Quote

 
  
Reply


Tags
ammo
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 19:12.




Homepage
FAQ
Forums
Calendar
Advertise
Gallery
GT Wiki
GT Blogs
Social Groups
Classifieds


Users Currently Online: 1,217
375 Members
842 Guests

Most users ever online: 2,672
Aug 11, 2014 at 2:31