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Old 04-20-2013, 10:33   #26
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Most of those concerned about losing their unlimited data plan have no idea how much data they use.

I've helped several monitor their data use over several months, almost all were under 2 GB, quite a few hit 1 GB at max.
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Old 04-20-2013, 10:36   #27
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Most of those concerned about losing their unlimited data plan have no idea how much data they use.

I've helped several monitor their data use over several months, almost all were under 2 GB, quite a few hit 1 GB at max.
What do you think the solution to paying full retail for a new smartphone will be?

Even the little basic flip/camera phones are like $200.
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Old 04-20-2013, 10:42   #28
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If you're under a a contract, you're already paying full price.
The cost of the phone is subsidized by what you are locked into paying monthly over the course of 2 years.

The actual cost of the phone and actual cost of the services are mixed together. Hard, if not impossible to tell what you're really paying.

The new T-mobile no contract plan lets you truly know the cost of the phone and the cost of the services. In addition, you can pay $99 (or more if you elect to) for your phone at the start, and a monthly payment ($20/month) until the phone is payed off, then your bill drops down to just paying for the service. You can pay off your phone outright and then just pay what the service plan costs.

The US is the last place to use the subsidized phone model.
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Didn't the whole sheepdog thing actually start right here on Glock Talk? A bunch of wannabees bought a bunch of T-shirts and took an oath to defend those who won't defend themselves?
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:01   #29
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If you're under a a contract, you're already paying full price.
The cost of the phone is subsidized by what you are locked into paying monthly over the course of 2 years.

The actual cost of the phone and actual cost of the services are mixed together. Hard, if not impossible to tell what you're really paying.

The new T-mobile no contract plan lets you truly know the cost of the phone and the cost of the services. In addition, you can pay $99 (or more if you elect to) for your phone at the start, and a monthly payment ($20/month) until the phone is payed off, then your bill drops down to just paying for the service. You can pay off your phone outright and then just pay what the service plan costs.

The US is the last place to use the subsidized phone model.
Ok, now that I could get on board with.

No way in the world am I going to pay $800 for the latest smartphone, but I'm definitely cool with what TMobile is doing.
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:08   #30
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If they go contractless, there would be no more reason for them to give me a free phone or special rates every couple of years. I'll stick with the contracts. If I need to change my cell phone provider more than once every 2 years, it's probably my fault.
Yup.

Contracts offer "cheaper" pricing.

EDIT: Maybe not. TBO kinda made sense of that.
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Old 04-20-2013, 12:25   #31
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I have a no contract plan with Verizon.

Of course that's because, I signed up in 2010 and lived it out. The being grandfathered into the unlimited data is a nice perk. However, I am stuck with buying my own phone if I want to keep it.
I just gave mine up for a Galaxy Note II. Now I'm roped into another 2 year contract (from March 1) and am limited to 2gb/mo.

What will happen if they go to no contracts? They will still charge the same high prices for service and the phones will be $500+. After this contract is over I'm dumping verizon.
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Old 04-20-2013, 15:01   #32
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I would have to think rates would increase to keep EPS steady. The companies make great margins every month that eligible customers don't upgrade.


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I just gave mine up for a Galaxy Note II. Now I'm roped into another 2 year contract (from March 1) and am limited to 2gb/mo.

What will happen if they go to no contracts? They will still charge the same high prices for service and the phones will be $500+. After this contract is over I'm dumping verizon.
Here's the break down on T-mobile's change to no contract:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-575...y-a-good-deal/
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You guys are nuts. Verizon Wireless is a great company. I encourage all of you to renew your contracts, and use LOTS of data.









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I want to buy my phone at full sticker and choose my services cafeteria style. So far I can't find it with premium data speeds.


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Old 04-20-2013, 16:56   #36
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The closest I've seen is T-mobile, if you're in the coverage.
If not, mute point.

True cafeteria style isn't likely to ever come, but no contract plans are a step up from what we have now.

"Truth in pricing".
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The closest I've seen is T-mobile, if you're in the coverage.
If not, mute point.

True cafeteria style isn't likely to ever come, but no contract plans are a step up from what we have now.

"Truth in pricing".
Yeah I think you've suggested that in the past but they're a no go for me in coverage.

I agree. Buying a subsidized phone makes me feel like I'm buying appliances at a rent to own. I really don't like it. And yeah I think we'll be dealing with packages for the foreseeable future. Especially as users use fewer voice minutes and more data.


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