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Old 04-21-2013, 17:14   #401
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I agree it is completely unacceptable...

And now that photos and videos are surfacing of these events,maybe some will see the truth behind my prior post..
Where ya at mossy oak?? Jump off the porch and play with the big dogs.
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Old 04-21-2013, 17:16   #402
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Come jump in the pool *ASH*. We missed you.
i know right , 16 pages and i finally touch the water . lol but its fun to read
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Old 04-21-2013, 17:46   #403
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I have 3 dogs - so I would not let them in my house.
Same. My shed has two locks on it as well. Feel free to look behind the shed or anywhere on the property including inside the garage and attic which is accessed through the garage. I do keep the vehicles in there and it is closed immediately after opening for that purpose but I would try to be helpful considering the situation. No way my dog's will be shot dead in my home doing what I've spent time and money training them to do. My dogs can hear an ant fart so in reality, dude would not hold up on my property.
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Old 04-21-2013, 18:07   #404
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So are we saying that the gov can label it special circumstances and enter our homes at will? How about not allowing use our Miranda rights? They are currently doing such a thing to a U.S. citizen. No matter the crime everyone deserves the rights provided them. If the gov flip flops at their own discretion what happens when they decide gun owners are the enemy and institute special circumstances? What about religion? Political affiliation? Give an inch, slippery slope IMO.
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Old 04-21-2013, 18:15   #405
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So are we saying that the gov can label it special circumstances and enter our homes at will? How about not allowing use our Miranda rights? They are currently doing such a thing to a U.S. citizen. No matter the crime everyone deserves the rights provided them. If the gov flip flops at their own discretion what happens when they decide gun owners are the enemy and institute special circumstances? What about religion? Political affiliation? Give an inch, slippery slope IMO.
very slippery , then it will be on cuzz!!!! people in free states aint gonna take much more bs .
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Old 04-21-2013, 18:18   #406
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very slippery , then it will be on cuzz!!!! people in free states aint gonna take much more bs .
Yeap.

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So are all y'all finding Constitutional issue with the searches going to initiate and or join a Class Action against the City, State and Federal agencies who conducted the searches?

Seriously, will you direct all your bravado here into energy toward legal actions to define restrictions on such actions in the future?
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So are all y'all finding Constitutional issue with the searches going to initiate and or join a Class Action against the City, State and Federal agencies who conducted the searches?

Seriously, will you direct all your bravado here into energy toward legal actions to define restrictions on such actions in the future?
They're already defined.
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They're already defined.
Apparently they're not defined well enough.
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Old 04-21-2013, 19:04   #410
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Apparently they're not defined well enough.
All the definitions in the world won't help unless LE understand and follow them. Another thread has convinced me of neither. Apparently several of them don't understand when they may search a house.


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Old 04-21-2013, 19:05   #411
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Seriously, will you direct all your bravado here into energy toward legal actions to define restrictions on such actions in the future?
Good question.
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Old 04-21-2013, 19:07   #412
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All the definitions in the world won't help unless LE understand and follow them. Another thread has convinced me of neither. Apparently several of them don't understand when they may search a house.
Know what ya mean, but there's more to it than searching houses.

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What are the penlites for miss-use of exigent circumstance laws?
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I heard the cops "did not" search without consent. If you didnt want them looking inside your home, they simply did a plain view search outside and moved on to who ever wanted to be helpful.

Anyone out there that can confirm this?
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So are all y'all finding Constitutional issue with the searches going to initiate and or join a Class Action against the City, State and Federal agencies who conducted the searches?

Seriously, will you direct all your bravado here into energy toward legal actions to define restrictions on such actions in the future?
Unless someone here lived in Boston, and particularly in a house that had been searched, it is unlikely that anyone present has standing.
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Old 04-21-2013, 20:18   #417
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I heard the cops "did not" search without consent. If you didnt want them looking inside your home, they simply did a plain view search outside and moved on to who ever wanted to be helpful.

Anyone out there that can confirm this?
Running people out of their houses while rudely displaying guns and then patting the occupants down doesn't look very voluntary, consensual or sensual to me.
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So are we saying that the gov can label it special circumstances and enter our homes at will? How about not allowing use our Miranda rights? They are currently doing such a thing to a U.S. citizen. No matter the crime everyone deserves the rights provided them. If the gov flip flops at their own discretion what happens when they decide gun owners are the enemy and institute special circumstances? What about religion? Political affiliation? Give an inch, slippery slope IMO.
That is exactly what happened in Katrina. "Only law enforcement will be allowed to have guns." Police Chief Eddie Compass.
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Running people out of their houses while rudely displaying guns and then patting the occupants down doesn't look very voluntary, consensual or sensual to me.
Everybody's definition of sensual is different and I can prove it.
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I heard the cops "did not" search without consent. If you didnt want them looking inside your home, they simply did a plain view search outside and moved on to who ever wanted to be helpful.

Anyone out there that can confirm this?
There is plenty of video of cops knocking on a door and then leaving after talking to the occupant.


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