Hey! New member/retired old guy just joined. Carried a G23 for last 20 years and just bought a G17 gen 4. Reason: Decided at my old age to participate in a GSSF match. 9mm is cheaper for practice, if you can find it, and lighter recoil is a help for my arthritic hands. Plus, the 23 sure isn't a stock Glock. Lone Wolf connector, springs and SS guide rod, Express tritium sights, etc.