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Old 04-13-2013, 21:13   #1
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Diamondback DB9

I have "guns I keep", "Guns I hate", and Guns I hot for trade fodder". Right wrong or indifferent..... I have a trade offer on my Trade Fodder Keltec PF9 for an unfired Diamondback DB9 manufactured in Jan 2013.

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Old 04-13-2013, 21:19   #2
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i knew one person that had one...notice. past tense.

i know one person that looked into buying one, and then actually held one...at that point, he figured a jimenez was probably higher quality.

just sayin'
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Old 04-13-2013, 22:02   #3
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i knew one person that had one...notice. past tense.

i know one person that looked into buying one, and then actually held one...at that point, he figured a jimenez was probably higher quality.

just sayin'
Lol... Point taken
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Old 04-13-2013, 22:16   #4
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Old 04-13-2013, 22:21   #5
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The Kel Tec is a much better pistol.
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Old 04-14-2013, 05:36   #6
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I think the Diamondback was a good idea in theory. But from what I have heard and read I would avoid one.
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Old 04-14-2013, 07:21   #7
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I bought a DB9 in January because I was looking for a pocket pistol, and it was the last pocket gun in the case at the store. I owned it for all of two months before I traded it for a Sig Sauer P938.
The DB9 was crude, harsh on the hand to shoot, and unreliable. Groupings from 10 yards were wild. I am so much happier with the Sig, and you would be too, with the Kel Tec, a Glock, or almost anything else. Let not price rule your decision.
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:07   #8
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Oh, I have plenty of guns. I also have "trading guns". These are guns I have to. Play with and trade for other guns I might want to try. I carry an XDs and keep an LCP in my pocket. I just like trying new things. I may go ahead and make the trade and play around with the DB9 for a while and see what I can do with it.
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:32   #9
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If and only if it works, it's quite accurate. For the size, it has the best sights and shoots like intended. It looks like a Glock but it lacks in reliability. I couldn't go through one magazine without failure, and I was frustrated. The frame cracked on me in about 575 rounds. They did send me a new frame, though, and they have made efforts at fixing the gun like sliding pins and redesigning the magazine header.

However, they never had a fix for magazines to help the reliability. Ljutic's post of modifying the magazine with Keltec springs is commendable. However, shouldn't the Diamondback engineers be doing this to improve reliability? For me, it was a failure on many levels. Essentially, I had a new frame but after 50 rounds, it was none the better. I gave my last laugh when I put it on consignment. I did not want to trade it, knowing it was a POS. I termed it DB = Diamondback = DC = DiamondCrap. I wanted someone to buy because they wanted it and consignment was the only way I could. A buyer should know the risks and benefits.

They should stick to making speedboats.

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Old 04-14-2013, 17:42   #10
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I gave a DB9 a chance recently because it is so small and Glocklike. It broke the trigger after 250 rounds. I really wanted this one to work but will be sticking with my Kahr PM9 or PM40.
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Old 04-14-2013, 17:52   #11
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Old 04-14-2013, 18:11   #12
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Thanks for all of the Info. Here's how my day went. I met up with the guy this morning. I only had about $100 tied up in the Keltec so I wasn't overly concerned with the possibility of making a mistake. Armed with the advice from you guys and other research I decided to make the trade.

When I got it home I loaded the mag up and hand cycled through the Mag. Everything fed and ejected as it should have. I then walked out to my range and shot a magazine of Blazer 115. I aimed at a paint can positioned 20' away and shot a very respectable group. I reloaded the mag and dumped another 6 rounds on the target. The trigger was very "Kahr-like" with a similar reset. A quick look at the trigger cam explains that. I ended up shooting about 75 rounds through the gun without a problem.

Later in the day my brother and dad came over. We went back outside and shot some Glocks. I pulled out the little DB9 and emptied the magazine in a target from 20'. Once again, no problems.

My dad asked if he could give it a whirl and pumped 2 magazines through it without an issue.

Then, my brother shot it. His second round failed to feed. He tapped the slide and it chambered. Two shots later, same thing. I loaded up a magazine and emptied it, no problems. Have it back to him and his 2nd round failed to feed. I took the gun, tapped the slide and finished of that magazine. I put 2 more mags through it trouble free. My dad out 2 more mags through it as well, no issues. My brother picked it up, same problem as the other two tries.

I ended the session by shooting 24 rounds through it without incident.

So.... This leaves me perplexed. Had I shot it alone I would be here telling everyone how reliable it was. If my dad had been with me, same story. My brother can't get 2 to fire in a row but is an excellent shooter.

All in all we put over 200 rounds trough the gun today. The only failures were when my brother shot it and he couldn't get it to run for him.

As far as the gun goes. It's a joy to shoot. Recoil was nothing like people warned and felt like a PM9 or PM40.
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Well, I guess that means that your brother has good luck, and you and your father are cursed - The Diamond Back works for the two of you...
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Old 04-14-2013, 18:37   #14
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Don't know about DBs, but I had a similar issue with a Ruger LCP. My wife had fail to fires but it worked fine for me. Same ammo, same everything. The LCP just didn't work for her.

I would be thrilled with your DB find. On the plus side, if it is turned against you, you are probably safe as houses!
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Old 04-14-2013, 18:41   #15
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IN all seriousness - maybe he was limp wristing it?

I'd put another few hundred thru it PERSONALLY before deciding that it is reliable.
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Old 04-14-2013, 18:46   #16
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IN all seriousness - maybe he was limp wristing it?

I'd put another few hundred thru it PERSONALLY before deciding that it is reliable.
I think that generically yes, he was limp wristing. However, a closer inspection shows that he wasn't really getting a good grip. The gun was twisting up and left while his hands stayed still. He couldn't hold on to it and kept readjusting.

I tried to limp wrist it but never could get it to fail for me.
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:23   #17
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IMO, most of the FTF and FTE that DB owners have are due to a small gun, lots of snap, and poor grip. In other words, limp wristing. The smallest, lightest 9mm is a snappy gun and many people don't handle it well. I am not trying to state that there are not problems (or have been in the past) with DB firearms.

Congrats on your trade. Hopefully, you will enjoy it until you trade it for something else.
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Old 04-15-2013, 14:01   #18
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Sounds like you are mostly satisfied with it so far. I would be reluctant to carry one, admittedly being prejudiced from what I have heard and read.




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Well, I guess that means that your brother has good luck, and you and your father are cursed - The Diamond Back works for the two of you...
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Old 04-15-2013, 17:41   #19
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I fed another 50 through her when I got home tonight. That's over 200 perfect rounds for me and 50+ for my dad. I'll break the gun down and give it a good cleaning tonight. It's going in my pocket tomorrow. I trust it to shoot when I ask it to now.
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Old 04-15-2013, 19:10   #20
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Db9

I got an e-mail from Diamondback today requesting my info so that they can send me a shipping label. I really love the size and design and it would be perfect for what I do.
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Old 04-15-2013, 20:04   #21
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Mine was an utter POS. There's a pic below of the type of jamming issues I was having. Went back to DB once for that, then the trigger broke on me in around 100 rounds. Sent it back again, and then sold it to someone on the boards with full disclosure. Hope it's working for him. No way I'd trust one.
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Old 04-15-2013, 20:06   #22
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^ don't blame you. I'd have done the same.
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:26   #23
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Owned one.....jam-o-matic.
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:35   #24
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I got an e-mail from Diamondback today requesting my info so that they can send me a shipping label. I really love the size and design and it would be perfect for what I do.
Such a familiar story for DB products. People love the ergonomics, but the guns just.don't.work.
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Hopefully they fixed the DB9 frame rails cracking,trigger falling apart and not resetting issues. I'd put a few more hundred rounds through it before carrying it.

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