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Old 04-14-2013, 20:06   #1
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The US government killed John Wayne!

Well.. Sort of...

I had never heard of the controversy surrounding this movie until I saw a clip about it on Mysteries at the Museum...

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/...tive-movie-set

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In 1953, the military had tested 11 atomic bombs at Yucca Flats, Nevada, which resulted in immense clouds of fallout floating downwind. Much of the deadly dust funneled into Snow Canyon, Utah, where a lot of The Conqueror was shot. The actors and crew were exposed to the stuff for 13 weeks, no doubt inhaling a fair amount of it in the process, and Hughes later shipped 60 tons of hot dirt back to Hollywood to use on a set for retakes, thus making things even worse.
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Old 04-14-2013, 20:08   #2
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The three packs a day probably didn't help either. HH
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Old 04-14-2013, 20:36   #3
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Maybe Hollywood shouldn't of made movies where they set off atomic bombs? Hard living probably had something to do with it as well. The Duke was a lifelong smoker and a very heavy drinker.
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Old 04-14-2013, 20:46   #4
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I think the alcohol and two-pack-a-day smoking habit he had for over 40 years probably did more than anything else to do him in.
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Old 04-14-2013, 20:54   #5
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IIRC about 60% of the cast & crew died of cancer. And it was a box office flop!

*edit* Looked up the stats, just over 41% had cancer by 1981 with over 20% dieing from it. That sounds higher than average but I'm not sure. I'd expect ~10-15%.

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Old 04-14-2013, 20:59   #6
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my grandfather was prospecting uranium around there:

griger counter went wild.
camped-out a couple days
staked claim.
clerk laughed, announced A-Bomb test of a few days earlier

colon cancer 1983

Ha, F'n ha!

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IIRC about 60% of the cast & crew died of cancer. And it was a box office flop!

*edit* Looked up the stats, just over 41% had cancer by 1981 with over 20% dieing from it. That sounds higher than average but I'm not sure. I'd expect ~10-15%.
Seems high to me...


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Of the 220 persons who worked on The Conqueror on location in Utah in 1955, 91 had contracted cancer as of the early 1980s and 46 died of it, including stars John Wayne, Susan Hayward, and Agnes Moorehead, and director Dick Powell. Experts say under ordinary circumstances only 30 people out of a group of that size should have gotten cancer.
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Old 04-14-2013, 21:37   #8
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The feds are still paying claims to downwinders in that area.

If the wind was blowing to Las Vegas the test were canceled but if it was blowing to populated parts of Utah the tests went of as scheduled.

Look up Utah Downwinders. The cancer rate is off the chart.
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If I never see another "god bless john wayne" bumper sticker it'll be too soon.
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For the West Coasters:

Elevated airborne beta levels in Pacific/West Coast US States and trends in hypothyroidism among newborns after the Fukushima nuclear meltdown
http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperIn...?PaperID=28599

What's the latency period for cancer after exposure?




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The three packs a day probably didn't help either. HH

When I was a kid Camel (non-filter) were called John Wyane tuff puffs.
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For the West Coasters:

Elevated airborne beta levels in Pacific/West Coast US States and trends in hypothyroidism among newborns after the Fukushima nuclear meltdown
http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperIn...?PaperID=28599

What's the latency period for cancer after exposure?





Radioactive iodine is a relatively short lived isotope therefor it wasn't from the testing but from Fukushima. IIRC it has a half life of less then a week, it would take a massive amount for it to be residual.
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Radioactive iodine is a relatively short lived isotope therefor it wasn't from the testing but from Fukushima. IIRC it has a half life of less then a week, it would take a massive amount for it to be residual.
I know it wasn't from the atmospheric testing. Since we're talking about nuclear fallout/contamination, I thought you all might find the link interesting.
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Maybe Hollywood shouldn't of made movies where they set off atomic bombs?
You can't really expect people to not be somewhere if they didn't know there was something unusual going on. If the government was running around telling people 'Stay out of that area, there's bad stuff there' that's one thing ... but were they?

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Hard living probably had something to do with it as well. The Duke was a lifelong smoker and a very heavy drinker.
Certainly true.
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The three packs a day probably didn't help either. HH

First post wins. Add Chuck Connors to that list also. Smokers all die from it, some sooner than others.....


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