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Old 04-05-2013, 13:08   #61
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If she has a choice, a 4th Gen Glock 37 .45 GAP.

Small grip diameter, 10+1 capacity of .45 caliber round. Very reliable, as a former officer - if I was to go back in uniform tomorrow and given a choice of duty gun - the Glock 37 would be at the top of my list for possible guns.

I have smaller hands and this combo is pretty hard to beat.

Good luck to her with her choice.
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Old 04-05-2013, 18:33   #62
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G23 if the agency allows it or the G21SF
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Old 04-05-2013, 19:41   #63
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She is allowed to carry pretty much anything but a revolver, her chief carries a sig .357 and some others .40's and a person who carries a 9mm it's a very small dept.. On the maintenance aspect of the 1911 we both are religious about our guns she'll field strip hers every week and check everything and make sure it's lubed and clean, and every couple of days in the winter when she's out in the snow and it gets wet.
If she can carry 9mm, there's no reason not to. Glock 17 gen 4 feels like a .22


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Old 04-05-2013, 21:48   #64
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I think going to a range and trying out a variety of guns and calibers would be time and money well spent.
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Old 04-05-2013, 23:22   #65
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GEN 4's.
Our agency always issued small statured officers with small hands G19's in the late '80's and early 90's. G23's up to 2006. from 2006 on it was either G23's or G38's and some G30SF's. Now with the GEN 4's. Choice of G23G4, G30G4, G37G4, and G21G4, the .45 cal. pistols being issue pistols. Other Glocks are authorized for carry.

The G21G4 is really liked now by the smaller framed (hands) officers. I would recommend any GEN 4 for her!!!!
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Old 04-06-2013, 11:31   #66
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If she likes the 1911 have her look at a sti 2011. The grip is roighly 1911 size and people like freedom gun works can do a grip reduction and stipple fo like 50 bucks and that gun will shoot like she is use to with a lot more ammo.
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Old 04-06-2013, 11:41   #67
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The G23 would be a great choice for duty, that's what I carry, the 23 with G22 mags on my belt.

Sounds like the Dept. she works for needs to get it together. It is always a good idea for all officers to carry the same caliber and make of duty weapon. Never know when something terrible will happen. She may need to rely on another officer for a magazine or ammunition one day. With everyone having a different caliber and model of duty weapon, this could be the difference between life and death.
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Old 04-06-2013, 11:56   #68
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The same token against that is shoot what your more comfortable with and if the other officer wasted every round they had why would you give them more to waste
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Old 04-06-2013, 13:14   #69
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Go for a G17 or G19, or even the G22/23.
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Old 04-06-2013, 19:54   #70
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I have carried, as has every officer in my department, a Glock 17 or 19 with Federal +P+ Hydrashoks since 1990 or 1991. You have capacity and power in an easy to maintain, easy to operate weapon.

I like 1911's a lot but I couldn't be bothered with one for duty use. Not like I have a choice, but if the administration said we could transition I doubt with all of the time I have with a Glock, I would.

One of the above posters said that he believed that any officer carrying a 1911 did so by choice. I have met an officer carrying one simply because it is the issued gun. Kimber. I asked if he liked it. He said he wasn't a gun guy but it is ok. I asked him if it jammed. He said sometimes. Obviously, I don't know how he maintained it. The only time I have had a Glock jam was when I induced it for qualification.

A Glock 19 or 17 especially the GEN4 will protect her fine. The price is right also.

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Old 04-06-2013, 20:43   #71
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The G23 would be a great choice for duty, that's what I carry, the 23 with G22 mags on my belt.

Sounds like the Dept. she works for needs to get it together. It is always a good idea for all officers to carry the same caliber and make of duty weapon. Never know when something terrible will happen. She may need to rely on another officer for a magazine or ammunition one day. With everyone having a different caliber and model of duty weapon, this could be the difference between life and death.
Many departments let officers carry whatever caliber they're comfortable with. The odds of sharing mags is almost unheard of. Only instance I can think of is north Hollywood, not sure if they even shared on that. If I go through all 70 rds on my belt and can't get to my rifle it's a very bad day


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Old 04-06-2013, 21:38   #72
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G23 Gen4, less backstrap than the Gen 3's, probably be good for smaller hands.
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Old 04-06-2013, 23:29   #73
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The whole sharing ammo in the field is so over thought. If the agency buys practice ammo I could see that being a factor to keep everyone in the same caliber.
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I skimmed through all the posts and didn't see an XDm mentioned. I don't own one, but my sgt owns both M&P and XD and likes them with small hands. My sister has small hands (doesn't even fit my Gen4 G23 very well), and I'm recommending one of these to her. From my exp, the grip isn't much larger between the 40 & 45's on these models either...

If she can comfortably enjoy shooting a G20 or G21, I'm not quite sure her hands would qualify as 'small.'
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Old 04-07-2013, 00:24   #75
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The whole sharing ammo in the field is so over thought.
Agreed. Plus I joke with the guys that if there's a reason I'm into my 2nd mag, I for sure am not giving away my 3rd!
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Old 04-07-2013, 08:15   #76
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Gen 4 Glock 30. She can get it at a good price with the blue label program.
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Old 04-07-2013, 08:17   #77
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Check out Cold Bore Customs. Lane can take the hump out of the backstrap and reduce the overall grip size. The G20 is great, but If her hands are real small it may be best to start with the smaller G22 or G17.
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:00   #78
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I'd just go for the glock...in 9mm. If you need more firepower then it is a good idea to have a rifle. If she wants a .45 it is important to remember that a glock 21 makes you realize what a big gun actually is. Mine's a behemoth and I have medium size hands. There really aren't many .45 caliber pistols I've shot that rival the 1911 in ergos, but the M&P would be one. I tried one at a local range and while I didn't shoot it as well as my g21, it functioned 100% (even with a missing slide release) and felt good in the hand. If she's recoil shy, it's worth mentioning that it felt a little sharper with the M&P, but that's a trade off for a slimmer grip. Keep safe!
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:06   #79
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Just thought of this...

If she's familiar with the 1911 platform, maybe a Para Ordnance? It would be familiar, but they offer the P14, which has 14 rounds of .45 and if they give her choice for her own duty weapon it might work...
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:58   #80
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If she can keep the 1911, get the G20 and train with it until
she can get good follow up shots (double/triple taps).

The 10mm does have more recoil then the 45acp.

I had both the G21 and G20 so I have felt the difference.
The 10mm has a little more recoil, but it's certainly a good weapon. As you have said your wife likes the 20sf, she would like the 29 or 29sf or Gen4 G29. She can use the the G20 magazines (when on duty) and can then use the 29 magazines for off duty. Of course she can do the same thing with the G30 and G21. It will boil down to what caliber she likes better.
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