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Old 03-27-2013, 18:44   #226
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Man, that's a fact.
I'll cool it down if you want me to OP. Your thread.
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Old 03-27-2013, 18:46   #227
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I've articulated it plenty well enough. You've said yourself you are fine with the person behind you in line getting nothing, while you get everything. Sorry but that's just a scumbag in my book... and certainly not someone I would want to be friends with.

That is why I've said what I said. How hard is that to understand?
No you haven't. Why do you think others have been asking you the same questions? Your whole argument is nothing but emotion.
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I've articulated it plenty well enough. You've said yourself you are fine with the person behind you in line getting nothing, while you get everything. Sorry but that's just a scumbag in my book... and certainly not someone I would want to be friends with.

That is why I've said what I said. How hard is that to understand?
No you haven't articulated it at all. You truly haven't.

Why do you feel entitled to buy anything at below market prices?

Why do you believe it is immoral or unethical to buy things and sell them at market prices?

You can't or won't answer these two simple questions.


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Old 03-27-2013, 18:48   #229
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Sorry guys, PM me if you want. OP says we're ruining his thread.
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Old 03-27-2013, 18:49   #230
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Not just directed at you, but I bet this is gonna be my third thread that gets locked from people arguing with each other about things that aren't even relevant to the conversation.
Not relevant to the conversation ? Have you read your own opening post?


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Old 03-27-2013, 18:50   #231
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Sorry guys, PM me if you want. OP says we're ruining his thread.
We're discussing the topic he started the thread about


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Old 03-27-2013, 18:55   #232
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Yes, but I think you see the distinction between that and buying out walmart's ammo supply to sell it minutes, hours, days later at an inflated price. There is a very CLEAR distinction between the two, I should not have even dignified this post with a response.
In other words your opinion on how much someone makes for their time, or how much they want to make for their time, effort, and investment is more important and more valid than his own opinion and the opinion of the buyer.
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Old 03-27-2013, 19:04   #233
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Not so much about the ammo but I am bothered by the people buying actual firearms for the sole reason of flipping them. Seems to me this is the straw purchase crap that makes us all look bad. This guy on one of my local Facebook gun trading groups freely admitted to doing it on numerous occasions.

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I think that's called dealing without a license. The ATF doesn't look kindly on these fellows.
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Old 03-27-2013, 19:07   #234
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I wonder if Georgia Arms still sells over the counter in Villa Ricca?
When things loosen up I intend to pay a visit.
Yes, they do, but they're currently out of stock on everything.
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Old 03-27-2013, 19:08   #235
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This is not about communism vs capitalist, right vs left, whatever whatever. I'm not going to rise to your bait.

This is about ethical vs unethical, what is right and what is wrong.



Again, is that right? Yes it is perfectly within your rights to do so, but I don't for a second believe you don't see how this is poor behavior.



Man up and sell all the ammo you have for the price you paid and sell your weapons for less than you paid, since they're used. That would be your "fair" thing to do. That way the proverbial person behind you in line would be taken care of and you could feel good about yourself when you go to bed.

Don't draw ethical lines that you forbid others to cross.
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Old 03-27-2013, 19:17   #236
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Man up and sell all the ammo you have for the price you paid and sell your weapons for less than you paid, since they're used. That would be your "fair" thing to do. That way the proverbial person behind you in line would be taken care of and you could feel good about yourself when you go to bed.

Don't draw ethical lines that you forbid others to cross.
I have no idea why you people keep giving me these ultimatums. I started out saying "A", and then you mixed up your thoughts and went straight to "D". What the hell happened to "B AND C". It's like someone criticizing something the government does, only to be told loudly by someone standing nearby "IF YOU DON'T LIKE 'MERICA, THEN YOU CAN JUST GIT OUT!"

I'm just left going "....what? where did i say....what?!"
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Old 03-27-2013, 19:19   #237
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I sleep like a baby everynight

Well, you got me there. There are nights I have a hard time sleeping because I am scheming in my head the path that I need to take so that I can have a shiny new 911 Turbo S sitting in my garage.

Just the other night, I was having a hard time sleeping as I was searching armslist for an HK91. Those damn weapon hoarders. They want $3000 to $4000 for a used rifle that they probably only paid $700 for new. Those %$$^%% should be selling a USED weapon to me cheaper than they paid for it new since its used.
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Old 03-27-2013, 19:21   #238
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Well, you got me there. There are nights I have a hard time sleeping because I am scheming in my head the path that I need to take so that I can have a shiny new 911 Turbo S sitting in my garage.

Just the other night, I was having a hard time sleeping as I was searching armslist for an HK91. Those damn weapon hoarders. They want $3000 to $4000 for a used rifle that they probably only paid $700 for new. Those %$$^%% should be selling a USED weapon to me cheaper than they paid for it new since its used.
I asked for apples, and you leave me holding oranges..... nice.
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Old 03-27-2013, 19:21   #239
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Been away for awhile.... After reading a few posters, where to start.....

Someone buys a product at a cheap price, but later sells it for more is ok. That is capitalism

But, the same person who buys a product in demand at the time for a "cheap" price and sells for more is a scumbag with no conscience?

Those that bought early anticipating future demand were the smart ones. This goes for any asset. The writing was on the wall.....

Why are these people making them out to be the boogyman? Are they just pisssed that they are priced out of the current market when they want something they think should have same the value it held many moons ago?
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I think that's called dealing without a license. The ATF doesn't look kindly on these fellows.
No they sure don't. However the whole notion that one should need a license to sell guns is pretty absurd so I support them 100%.


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Scalping ammo is a shady practice. They are not champions of capitalism.... which is what you and CF are making them out to be. No more or less shady then the guy standing outside of a concert wearing sunglasses and a hoodie.... "psst... you looking for tickets? Gonna cost you."

I'm 25.
Tell, us, what concert did you not get to see or have bad seats to?
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No you haven't articulated it at all. You truly haven't.

Why do you feel entitled to buy anything at below market prices?

Why do you believe it is immoral or unethical to buy things and sell them at market prices?

You can't or won't answer these two simple questions.


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Two simple questions asked and ignored for the umpteenth time.


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I asked for apples, and you leave me holding oranges..... nice.
Please explain.

What is the difference between selling a $700 new price rifle for $3000-$4000 used and selling new ammo that cost $25 a brick for $50?

Please explain the difference???
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Old 03-27-2013, 19:38   #244
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The fact is, the OP has asked us to refrain from arguing, and I don't see this going anywhere but escalating.

My final thoughts for this thread:

It really is as simple as this.... "Is scalping ammo ethical?" People will reach their own conclusions about how they feel on the subject within seconds of reading that sentence... and you and I having a pissing match is not going to sway any minds. You have turned this into an attack on capitalism and our way of life... it really doesn't go that deep. I've let you bait me time and time again and it's not going to happen anymore. I am going to respect the OP's wishes now.


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Old 03-27-2013, 19:40   #245
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With all this infighting, I know eventually the gun grabbers will win. Divide and conquer.
Maybe Obama should tax all ammo at 10 dollars per round and ban reloading.
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The fact is, the OP has asked us to refrain from arguing, and I don't see this going anywhere but escalating.

My final thoughts for this thread:

It really is as simple as this.... "Is scalping ammo ethical?" People will reach their own conclusions about how they feel on the subject within seconds of reading that sentence... and you and I having a pissing match is not going to sway any minds. You have turned this into an attack on capitalism and our way of life... it really doesn't go that deep. I've let you bait me time and time again and it's not going to happen anymore. I am going to respect the OP's wishes now.


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The fact is, the OP has asked us to refrain from arguing, and I don't see this going anywhere but escalating.

My final thoughts for this thread:

It really is as simple as this.... "Is scalping ammo ethical?" People will reach their own conclusions about how they feel on the subject within seconds of reading that sentence... and you and I having a pissing match is not going to sway any minds. You have turned this into an attack on capitalism and our way of life... it really doesn't go that deep. I've let you bait me time and time again and it's not going to happen anymore. I am going to respect the OP's wishes now.


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I really can't understand why you're scared to answer these 2 simple questions. I've asked them a half dozen times in this thread and you avoid them every time.

Here they are again:

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Why do you believe it is immoral or unethical to buy things and sell them at market prices?
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Old 03-27-2013, 19:56   #248
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What is it with you people? You think the more condescending you are to me the more likely I am to roll over and let you pull the wool over my eyes? You're inflating the importance of abunch of bottom feeders. They "Help" me in the same way a ticket scalper who charges me double "helps" me. I'm "helped" by these shady practices in the same way I'm "helped" by a bad rash.

No amount of pseudoconomic babble is going to make me say that someone on a very limited income as it is, is better off with these ammo scalpers. NO AMOUNT.

Go back to listening to ayn rand novels on tape and laughing at those "not in the know."
The scalper would only come into play if'in you were too lazy or stupid to get the tickets for face value for the event you wanted to attend in the first place. Otherwise, you either would have not gone to the event or would be presented with the "scalper" option of being able to attend the event but with a self sustained penalty of paying the "going rate" thru the "scalper". The final decision is yours.
If you give the "scalper" your money you have decided that the price was warranted. That is capitalism.

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If you have a "very limited income" per you: Maybe you should stop your gallant crusade against interwebs trolls with your very scientific youtube references and maybe actually read the responses. You'd be a much better informed human.
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People that think prices will get back to normal are really dim. Normal ammo prices have gone up since the first day ammo was ever sold. People that think the resellers are to blame for the shortage are flat out ignorant. In the future we will wish we could buy a box of 9mm for $50, I believe the very near future. I buy all the ammo that I can afford and wouldn't sell it for any mark up. I do hit mall mart and academy every few days and buy what I want when I see it. When I'm too old to work, I will sell my ammo. Some of it.
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That laughter is funny coming from a guy who wants to liquidate the Social Security fund and put it in the general budget or falsely claiming it doesn't exist, (despite the fact that it is still solvent for a few more years), kind of like the EU and the Govt of Cyprus are raiding private ban accounts.

I guess if the Social Security fund is taken and redistributed for the good of whole society that isn't socialism?
Hey genius: The Social Security fund has already been liquidated. Its already in the general budget. There is no trust fund. Benefits are paid hand to mouth.

But don't worry, you'll get yours. My children will pay it.
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