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Old 03-11-2013, 10:39   #1
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Is Federal LE Tactical HST 230gr +P a Good SD Round???

Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with this round? Is it a good loading/choice for defense?

It would be even better if that experience was with a Glock21. (Feeding/cycling)

I took a leap of faith and bought 200 rounds of it at my LGS, never even seen it on the shelves in there before.

I have some Remington Golden Sabers and Hornady XTP's. (Which I know are good rounds) just curious about this one in particular.


Thanks for the info!
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:47   #2
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HST is a great bullet and boringly uncontroversial in its performance.


Wish they sold them as a component.
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:50   #3
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Doughnutman_923,

These folks did a pretty good job or testing this round, well worth a look see.



I have two friends who really like this round and one of them uses this a his EDC round, and both are shooting this round out of G21's.

I hope this helps - Good luck and be safe
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HST is a great bullet and boringly uncontroversial in its performance.


Wish they sold them as a component.
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Doughnutman_923,

These folks did a pretty good job or testing this round, well worth a look see.

Hog's Head Ballistics - Federal HST .45 ACP 230gr+P - YouTube


I have two friends who really like this round and one of them uses this a his EDC round, and both are shooting this round out of G21's.

I hope this helps - Good luck and be safe
Much appreciated!
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Old 03-11-2013, 18:04   #5
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IMHO Winchester Ranger T-Series, Federal HST and Speer GDHP
are some of the best SD ammo you can buy.

I have boxes of 230 gr +P Ranger T and HST for my HK45C.

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Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with this round? Is it a good loading/choice for defense?

It would be even better if that experience was with a Glock21. (Feeding/cycling)

I took a leap of faith and bought 200 rounds of it at my LGS, never even seen it on the shelves in there before.

I have some Remington Golden Sabers and Hornady XTP's. (Which I know are good rounds) just curious about this one in particular.


Thanks for the info!
It's a good round, and a good choice.

I have put 100+ through my G21SF so far.

My preference for duty caliber semi auto self defense right now is Speer Gold Dot or Federal HST.
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Old 03-11-2013, 20:42   #7
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HST 230+P is what's loaded in my HK45. From what I've seen, it's the best of the best of non-bonded hollow point ammo on the marked right now.
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Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with this round? Is it a good loading/choice for defense?

It would be even better if that experience was with a Glock21. (Feeding/cycling)

I took a leap of faith and bought 200 rounds of it at my LGS, never even seen it on the shelves in there before.

I have some Remington Golden Sabers and Hornady XTP's. (Which I know are good rounds) just curious about this one in particular.
It seems to me that you now have three excellent JHP self-defense rounds for your G-21.
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Old 03-11-2013, 22:49   #9
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Is Federal LE Tactical HST 230gr +P a Good SD Round???

It's an excellent JHP and I'd hazard to say one of the best.
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Old 03-11-2013, 23:26   #10
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I have two 50 rd boxes to give my brother a Hazel Park MI PD Cop, for his G-30SF, anybody use/carry these in a Baby Glock .45?
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:33   #12
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A 230gr JHP at 900 FPS is a real champion load. If I were carrying a .45 this would be my factory load.
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Old 03-12-2013, 10:56   #13
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The agency I work for has issued the Federal 230 grain HST+P for use in Glock 21 pistols for the past five years. So far, the officers have reported no problems with this combination and it is a stout load as well. Good stuff.
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I have never had a problem with HST in any .45 I have tried it in- 1911, glock or otherwise.

I load my ccw guns with HST only. Have used Gold Dots but I can find HSTs locally easily.
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Old 03-12-2013, 19:59   #15
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HST's are the best thing since sliced bread. Havn't tried them in .45 but in .40 and .357 they rock.
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I'll bet that the penetration is great!
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HST's are the best thing since sliced bread. Havn't tried them in .45 but in .40 and .357 they rock.
When they become available again, you have to try some! The +P is loaded rather hot and you won't believe the expansion. My testing yielded a bit more expansion than the test video but there again, I didn't shoot it into a hogs head.

HST IMHO is the best bullet design on the market right now. It's definitely the ammo to have in your gun. I don't want to take anything away from the Ranger T-Series or the Speer Gold Dot loads as they are fantastic in their own right.

But......

The Federal HST takes the cake and I love cake!

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I've shot them in my 5" Les Baer (approx. 980fps) and currently carry them in my G36 (850fps). Funtion well and expansion is pretty awesome even out of the short barrel in the 36

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HST is a great bullet and boringly uncontroversial in its performance.


Wish they sold them as a component.
Try Rocky Mountain Reloading. Occasionally he sells pulled HSTs in several calibers. I've bought 40 and 45acp HSTs from him in addition to some other bullets. Good seller. Google Rocky Mountain Reloading to find his website.

Since I'm here, I've had no problems with the 230 gr HST +p in my RIA 1911 CS. That's the load I use when I carry that gun.
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I've shot them in my 5" Les Baer (approx. 980fps) and currently carry them in my G36 (850fps). Funtion well and expansion is pretty awesome even out of the short barrel in the 36
My next gun may be a G36.
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I had accumulated 450 rounds of it before the first ammo Obamalypse back when one of my stops used to put it on the counters for $26.99 for 50 and no one really knew what it was. I had a 2nd Gen 21 then and never had any issues with feeding through it using the HST +P. Every test I've ever seen always looks good but I've never had to use it for anything more than the range. As some have stated already, it's a real "popper."
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I had accumulated 450 rounds of it before the first ammo Obamalypse back when one of my stops used to put it on the counters for $26.99 for 50 and no one really knew what it was. I had a 2nd Gen 21 then and never had any issues with feeding through it using the HST +P. Every test I've ever seen always looks good but I've never had to use it for anything more than the range. As some have stated already, it's a real "popper."
"Obamalypse" - I love that term!!!!
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It's what I carry in my Kahr CW45 (3.6" barrel).
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It's what I carry in my Kahr CW45 (3.6" barrel).
I wish you well with your CW45!
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I wish you well with your CW45!
Had trigger reset issues initially. Sent it back. Shot 150 consecutive rounds upon getting it back.....assorted FMJ's and premium JHP's I had (new and old, like MagSafes for instance), to include several mags of HST +P's. No more trigger reset issues, only 2 failures-to-eject with WWB, which I won't be carrying anyway. Every JHP was fine, which obviously of special interest to me were the HST +P's.

In a sustained Firebase Ripcord, 1K round firefight? Probably a Glock. However, for a CCW gun I have faith in the ammo/weapon combo.
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