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Old 03-11-2013, 19:14   #41
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The truth is if JMB was alive today he would have created the Glock style/type pistol. He was very good!
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Old 03-11-2013, 19:33   #42
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The 1911s are more reliable with SPP .45acp.

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Old 03-11-2013, 19:45   #43
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I have 5 diff 1911s, 3 diff manuf, all stock but for maybe a sight change & trigger job. So I have never tweeked a 1911 yet to get it to run. I would wager 95% of 1911 problems are caused by "tweeking" them. Wager again, same for Glock or other plastic wonder guns. The only thing a Glock has over a properly setup 1911 (meaning don't F with it), is it breaks down for easier cleaning.

Mine came out of the box and wouldn't chamber some factory ammo. Some it would, some it wouldn't. More importantly, it wouldn't chamber my reloads, so I had a guy with a waiting list to build Bullseye guns for guys who compete and win at Camp Perry etc. tweek it for me. Now it works, if you don't count the three misfeeds in less than 500 rounds since the chamber issue ws fixed.

I'm not talking about you here, because I know you shoot straight about such things, but I have seen 1911's malfunction with my own two eyes and then listened to the owner tell somebody his gun never missed a beat. I saw it with a new Kimber once. It kept locking the slide back with rounds in the mag. The guy deliberately kept his thumbs down and it still did it. I only shoot guns with my thumbs down and it did it for me too. He put a slide stop in from one of his other 1911's and it stopped malfunctioning. A friend of this guy came in later and this dude starts bragging on how his new Kimber never missed a beat.
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Old 03-11-2013, 19:52   #44
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1) Bill Jordan shot .357 mag... which is ok.

2) People talk about tinkering with 1911's, but every day I see threads on this site where people are taking a candle or hair dryer or dremel or soldering iron to their glocks to correct pignose, stipple, grip, or adding a NY trigger / transfer bar / maritime spring cups, aftermarket barrels... presumably to make their perfection, uhhhh perfection.

3)You gotta give some of us old caliber tards a break... back when we learned how to shoot, there was no +P or fancy holler points to make 9mm worth a darn. It just wasn't a realistic option. Old habits and all that.

4) dkf... you are also a filthy heathen.
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Old 03-11-2013, 19:53   #45
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1) Bill Jordan shot .357 mag... which is ok.

2) People talk about tinkering with 1911's, but every day I see threads on this site where people are taking a candle or hair dryer or dremel or soldering iron to their glocks to correct pignose, stipple, grip, or adding a NY trigger / transfer bar / maritime spring cups, aftermarket barrels... presumably to make their perfection, uhhhh perfection.

3)You gotta give some of us old caliber tards a break... back when we learned how to shoot, there was no +P or fancy holler points to make 9mm worth a darn. It just wasn't a realistic option. Old habits and all that.

4) dkf... you are also a filthy heathen.
1) I'm having second thoughts about Jordan.

2) All of which is true, but not due to any shortcoming of the gun, it's due to the severe wierdness of people who think that melting or soldering their gun somehow makes it better. Just because some low rider puts a whale tail spoiler on a Civic doesn't mean the Civic is no good.

3) You aint that old. I have Shooter's Bibles older than you and they have holler pernts in them.

4) dfk is a filthy heathen.
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Holler pernts, but not the monkey magnum fancy holler pernts what exist today.
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And another thing... I'm mad at Lee again just for being Lee.

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Holler pernts, but not the monkey magnum fancy holler pernts what exist today.
Let's argue about dfk being a heathen instead. I'll start. He IS a heathen, a filthy one at that.
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Let's argue about dfk being a heathen instead. I'll start. He IS a heathen, a filthy one at that.
Wait... are we arguing?
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Wait... are we arguing?
Yes, we are on the same side. You aren't doing very well (squandered your turn).

My response is, dfk is a filthy heathen.
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Yes, we are on the same side. You aren't doing very well (squandered your turn).

My response is, dfk is a filthy heathen.
So I guess we are even now.
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So I guess we are even now.
I'll put you down as having said "tio" and call it even.
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I'm offended if anyone's offended.
I aint agreeved no more.
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I don't cotton no agreevements, so that's that.

.45 rules, unless it's shot out of a glock or runs on a small primer, or dkf is involved somehow.
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I don't cotton no agreevements, so that's that.

.45 rules, unless it's shot out of a glock or runs on a small primer, or dkf is involved somehow.
Now take it easy on dfk, he's kinfolk now.
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Now you tell me. Didn't want to fire up the J-pan Clan of North Cackalacky.
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You related to Koski too?

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I'm not talking about you here, because I know you shoot straight about such things, but I have seen 1911's malfunction with my own two eyes and then listened to the owner tell somebody his gun never missed a beat. I saw it with a new Kimber once. It kept locking the slide back with rounds in the mag. The guy deliberately kept his thumbs down and it still did it. I only shoot guns with my thumbs down and it did it for me too. He put a slide stop in from one of his other 1911's and it stopped malfunctioning. A friend of this guy came in later and this dude starts bragging on how his new Kimber never missed a beat.
Oh I'm not saying I have not seen the good ole 1911 go south, but most of the time, it's cheap Chinese mags or someone has been screwing with it. As note, all of mine but one are stock out of the box guns. The semicustom one is built up on an old Springfield mil spec w/ Barsto bbl & the other 1911 common acc. I don't do extended safeties or slide realeases. They run & run & run. My ccw is a stock 1911PD / the dreaded exterior extractor, never missed a beat with any ammo I have fed it. If I new I was walking into a fight & couldn't have a long gun, it would be one of my 1911s, I trust them that much & shoot them that well. Although, I am getting fond of my XD45C, my 2nd choice & I get 2 extra rds each mag.
I did break my best 1911 @ an IDPA match last year. The slide stop broke, gun ran fine, just wouldn't lock back on empty. In all fairness, the gun has had maybe 30K rds thru it's 20yr run, so I can forgive it a $15 borkone part that didn't affect it's ability to shoot.
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