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Old 03-08-2013, 13:21   #21
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Have both a Glock 17 and the SR9 and did a shoot off two weeks ago. Sorry Glock , The Ruger shoots better,better trigger,less recoil, and a nicer grip angle which just fits better and has a more natural point on aim. In regard to the mag safety. If during a confrontation one could just drop the mag to save their life as oppose to being shot by their own weapon. I know most highly trained civilian/leo's have no need for this option because they are experts in weapon retention and dissarming techniques. I being a high ranking black belt, teaches and practices these techniques weekly see's the benifit of dropping the mag but most people who don't like the mag release option are much better trained and no need of it. Both are good guns I do like both and their are advantages to both,get what you want ,after all it's your gun.
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Old 03-08-2013, 14:14   #22
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...If during a confrontation one could just drop the mag to save their life as oppose to being shot by their own weapon. I know most highly trained civilian/leo's have no need for this option because they are experts in weapon retention and dissarming techniques...
Whisky tango foxtrot?
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Old 03-08-2013, 15:19   #23
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Whisky tango foxtrot?

I thought it was just me...

To me the whole concept of such an action is amazing!
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Old 03-08-2013, 15:24   #24
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As far a Ruger auto-pistols go, I now use only the .22 LR Mark II/III and the .380 LCP. I've owned some older 9mm models (including the old original P85, but not SR9) that are perfectly serviceable and reliable, but perfectly ugly and awkward in the hand. Hate them.

Have you considered a full-size Glock 17, rather than the compact Glock 19? A Glock "compact" model saves all of one-half inch of length, one-half inch of height, nothing in slide/frame width, nothing in barrel height, and only two ounces of full load weight (due to 15 vs. 17 rounds). That's sure going to make a big difference for ease of carry...not! If you put a light/laser on the rails, on the full size model the light won't protrude much in front of the muzzle, and discharge won't coat the light lens with powder residue as badly. (Just something to think about since you've decided against the Ruger, and now must wait for a Glock delivery.)

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Old 03-08-2013, 15:41   #25
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I HATE Glocks grips with a passion...worst in the industry BUT in a "full to mid" size gun id STILL take the Glock 19 over the SR9...Now when you start getting into a bit SMALLER than "full/mid" size guns I OWN the Ruger SR9c and consider it SUPERIOR to glocks smaller lines of guns and the 19 and 23. just think its better...Its just the size I guess.

so for me

id take the GLOCK over the "regular size" SR9 any day

BUT

Id take the SR9c over just about any glock any day the only one that would stand a chance is the Glock36...
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Old 03-08-2013, 19:29   #26
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I wouldn't dream of picking a Ruger auto over a Glock but that is just me. Sig, Cz, or an M&P Pro are the only ones that come to mind that I would consider over my G19.
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Old 03-08-2013, 19:58   #27
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The Ruger is a safety Nazi gun. Magazine safety, thumb safety, and a loaded chamber indicator that looks like a flag on a mailbox. It's unnecessary. I carry a G19 gen4 most of the time, 4300 rounds and not a hiccup. I'm sure the Ruger is a good gun functionally speaking, but I don't need a gun that insults my intelligence.

If you don't like Glocks get an M&P, equally as good IMO.
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Old 03-08-2013, 20:05   #28
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The Glock 19 is simply a far higher class of gun in every way.

Ruger is working its way up in the pistol market......good, but nowhere near Glock yet.

Glock is Perfection.......Ruger is ......... not.

Good, yes. Perfection......not even close.
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Old 03-08-2013, 20:23   #29
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If you want a safe gun get the Ruger! It has so many safeties you wont be able to shoot it
I was playing with an SR22 in the store the other day,I was pissed in 2 seconds with all the safeties

I handed it right back!
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Old 03-08-2013, 22:01   #30
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I haven't shot the SR9 but I can't hit **** with the G19 compared to my other pistols.
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Old 03-08-2013, 22:05   #31
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In regard to the mag safety. If during a confrontation one could just drop the mag to save their life as oppose to being shot by their own weapon. I know most highly trained civilian/leo's have no need for this option because they are experts in weapon retention and dissarming techniques. I being a high ranking black belt, teaches and practices these techniques weekly see's the benifit of dropping the mag but most people who don't like the mag release option are much better trained and no need of it.
Why not carry a water pistol as a primary and a real gun as a back-up?
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Old 03-08-2013, 22:07   #32
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glock doesn't have the stoopid mag disconnect, get the block
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Old 03-08-2013, 22:15   #33
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I thought it was just me...

To me the whole concept of such an action is amazing!
Actually, that technique was taught in several police academies when the 3rd gen Smith autos were popular.

Usually, it's a holster retention technique though.

I love the feel of the sr9!

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Old 03-08-2013, 22:39   #34
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The Glock 19 is simply a far higher class of gun in every way.

Ruger is working its way up in the pistol market......good, but nowhere near Glock yet.

Glock is Perfection.......Ruger is ......... not.

Good, yes. Perfection......not even close.
Yeah,right.
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Old 03-08-2013, 22:47   #35
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The G19 is a "classic." It was my very first handgun (back around 1992). I still have it (I've since added to my "collection"). I'll never sell the G19.
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Old 03-08-2013, 23:04   #36
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If during a confrontation one could just drop the mag to save their life as oppose to being shot by their own weapon. I know most highly trained civilian/leo's have no need for this option because they are experts in weapon retention and dissarming techniques. :
as a person that has been doing martial arts for ten years and night club/vip security for about 6 i can tell you right now that a mag dissconnect can be very usefull..my friend is a LEO and on the swat team,he was talking about his retention techniques...i took a wooden gun replica out of his hand many times just useing very basic jiu-jitsu moves..

and i was unarmed of my asp baton once by a man that im sure had no training but happend to be a juice head that i couldnt handle..


if im fighting a few guys with two or three wrapping me up and a fourth working on getting my weapon,knowing that dropping my mag will make my gun unoperative for a time gives me something less to worry about
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Old 03-09-2013, 19:25   #37
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Someone brought it up, difference between the G17 and G19 as far as a carry gun goes? At some point I will buy a rail attached light for the house but still, I'm going to carry this gun everyday as soon as I have a permit.
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Old 03-09-2013, 19:28   #38
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Sorry- SR9 will be here in 2 weeks... Glock- 2 months min.
Well worth the wait for the Glock (seems strange to hear about Glocks being out of stock - I've never seen a day when I couldn't go pick up any one I want at a local shop - maybe try somewhere else). I don't own Ruger products and don't plan to start. They may have gotten over the political issue since Bill Ruger died, but they haven't gotten past the quality issue.
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They may have gotten over the political issue since Bill Ruger died, but they haven't gotten past the quality issue.


I've owned several Rugers over the last 35 years, never had any quality issues with any of them.
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Have both a Glock 17 and the SR9 and did a shoot off two weeks ago. Sorry Glock , The Ruger shoots better,better trigger,less recoil, and a nicer grip angle which just fits better and has a more natural point on aim. In regard to the mag safety. If during a confrontation one could just drop the mag to save their life as oppose to being shot by their own weapon. I know most highly trained civilian/leo's have no need for this option because they are experts in weapon retention and dissarming techniques. I being a high ranking black belt, teaches and practices these techniques weekly see's the benifit of dropping the mag but most people who don't like the mag release option are much better trained and no need of it. Both are good guns I do like both and their are advantages to both,get what you want ,after all it's your gun.
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