North Korea to nuke the us? - Page 3

***Geko45*** · 03-07-2013, 13:25

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Originally Posted by volsbear

Can they even get a missle to California?

Well, they got that satellite into orbit even if it was DOA. That means that theoretically they can hit anywhere in the world. Of course, that tiny satellite was a much easier payload to lift than one of their warheads (which are probably still fairly massive). They have all the components necessary, but it will still take them time to integrate them into a viable weapon system. That doesn't rule out a 'Hail Mary' type shot with a low probability of success.

Mr981 · 03-07-2013, 13:25

Sounds like something young dictator must have learned from his father on how to fix the local economy when times are tough--threaten the US and wait for their appeasement dollars to roll in.

***volsbear*** · 03-07-2013, 13:26

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Originally Posted by Geko45

Well, they got that satellite into orbit even if it was DOA. That means that theoritically they can hit anywhere in the world. Of course, that tiny satellite was a much easier payload to lift than a warhead (which are probably still fairly massive). They have all the components necessary, but it will still take them time to integrate them into a viable weapon system. That doesn't rule out a 'Hail Mary' type shot with a low probability of success.

Do we have the technology to shoot it down?

***Geko45*** · 03-07-2013, 13:33

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Originally Posted by volsbear

Do we have the technology to shoot it down?

Yes, the USS Lake Erie did successfully shoot down a failed satellite shortly before it re-entered the atmosphere back in Feb 2008 at an altitude of 133 nautical miles. It was a bit of a 'Hail Mary' shot for us as well, but it was a success. I can only assume that we've come further in that area in the last 5 years.

Of course, the flip side is that we knew exactly when and where that satellite was going to be coming from. Not so with an actual warhead.

moonwilson · 03-07-2013, 13:42

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Originally Posted by volsbear

Do we have the technology to shoot it down?

The satellite? Yes, of course. We have several different systems that can do that. Shoot down an ICBM? With stuff that's been declassified, maaaaybe. I wouldn't want to bet a city on it. The US may have some classified programs with higher hit probability, but who knows what those are. With a ballistic missile, you ideally want to stop them in the launch/ boost phase. Once they get going they zip along at a pretty good clip. A small target moving at 16,000 mph or so is very difficult to stop. I don't think technology is quite there yet, but that's a problem we've had good engineers working on for decades.

coastal4974 · 03-07-2013, 14:33

NK better watch out or we'll have to send Kerry over there. He was in Nam and knows how to handle this kind of threat.

Ragnar · 03-07-2013, 14:36

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Originally Posted by ezthumper

Just so you know, SAC is represented in Korea (Just SACamsised boys/girls that happen to be wearing a PACAF crest), stationed in the armpit of Korea.

Much shorter than that, and it would be complete scorched earth.

Oh please. I was stationed in Korea and worked in the target flight. The OPLAN would take much longer than 2 hours just to start.

**ezthumper** · 03-07-2013, 14:37

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Originally Posted by coastal4974

NK better watch out or we'll have to send Kerry over there. He was in Nam and knows how to handle this kind of threat.

Oh god I totally forgot about him, he will end up killing more of our own than our enemy will.

***Glockdude1*** · 03-07-2013, 14:38

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Originally Posted by faawrenchbndr

Time to dust off SAC!

Ragnar · 03-07-2013, 14:39

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Originally Posted by Glockworks

Very true, but after his satellite that was launched on 12 December that passes right over our heartland every day at an altitude of ~330 miles go boom, we are in a world of hurt. ( very possible, but I'm not sure what it really is capable of). So sure our boomers will be able to make mincemeat of NK, but they cannot launch without Nat Cmd Authority, and that maybe caught flat footed for they seem to be, we'll, stupid, currently anyway.

Unlikely. The people who track these things say the satellite is tumbling out of control.

Ragnar · 03-07-2013, 14:42

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Originally Posted by ezthumper

Here is one thing though, as he has grown up in the DPRK palace, he has watched his father and Grandfather wring their hands and have a complete melt down whenever we did our major exercises with the ROK(Team Spirit and Foal Eagle).

He also knows what we have waiting to stuff up his ass. And personally, I am thinking, if he got froggy, he will not hit the states, but a U.S. base in ROK.

No, he grew up in private schools in Switzerland starting around 1991. He was born in 83 or 84.

Ragnar · 03-07-2013, 14:44

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Originally Posted by raven11

I'm just amazed we haven't gone to war with them again since the Korean War

Attacking the Blue House (Korean president's house)
Blowing up a civilian airliner
Killing a U.S soldier with a axe for cutting a tree on the DMZ
Sinking a South Korean Navy frigate in international waters
Shelling a S.K. Military base

And I'm sure I'm forgetting a lot more

To be fair, we have retaliated. We chopped that tree right down a few days later. That showed them.

DanaT · 03-07-2013, 14:54

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Originally Posted by Ragnar

Oh, we can hope. Their missile can only reach the left coast.

They can't reach 39.739094°N 104.984898°W?

DanaT · 03-07-2013, 15:01

Maybe Obama could write him an apology letter and settle this whole thing?

**ezthumper** · 03-07-2013, 15:09

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Originally Posted by DanaT

They can't reach 39.739094°N 104.984898°W?

HAHAHAHA.

Yes I had to google that. And no I am not telling.

***BuckyP*** · 03-07-2013, 15:35

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Originally Posted by WarCry

And for the record, I don't think the US will lob nukes back. Even if North Korea does it, I think there will be a MASSIVE response, but I think it will be conventional. It will be a LOT of conventional, and quite possibly still result in the smoking-crater scenario, but it won't be 'sheet of glass' kind of stuff, either.

With this leadership, I'm sure any response, if any, would be pretty tame comparatively.

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Originally Posted by coastal4974

NK better watch out or we'll have to send Kerry over there. He was in Nam and knows how to handle this kind of threat.

Kerry will say we deserved whatever we got, because of atrocities we committed during the Korean war.

oldgraywolf · 03-07-2013, 15:46

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Originally Posted by Mr981

Sounds like something young dictator must have learned from his father on how to fix the local economy when times are tough--threaten the US and wait for their appeasement dollars to roll in.

Exactly. Every time NK ratchets up the game a little, it's a ploy for more aid to quiet them down for a while. I won't spend one second worrying about NK launching anything other than words our way.

RonS · 03-07-2013, 15:47

I don't know, depends on if they hit a red state or a blue state. If they kept shooting nukes at red states Obama would probably keep apologizing.

dpadams6 · 03-07-2013, 15:51

They've been talking nonsense for years. And they are full aware that if they were to do such a thing, their country would cease to exist.

boofers20 · 03-07-2013, 16:06

Hey NK:

jdavionic · 03-07-2013, 16:12

I don't know. I just keep thinking...'don't underestimate your enemy'. I know it's like The Mouse that Roared. However in this case, we've got a mouse that is not rational - or at least not rational from our perspective.