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Old 03-02-2013, 17:55   #1
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US drones can tell if citizens armed...

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57...edator-drones/


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Old 03-02-2013, 19:27   #2
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Scary article. I am not surprised, but it does give creedance to all the people who are concerned w big brother watching them.

We are no longer a free people. I can see how it is for good use now and how easily that can be changed.
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Old 03-02-2013, 19:31   #3
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US drones can tell if citizens armed...http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57...edator-drones/
From the actual spec requirements...
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3.5.3.1.7 Shall (T) be capable of identifying a standing human being at night as likely armed or not (based on position of arms) at a slant range of one and
a half times the specified Operating Altitude.
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Old 03-02-2013, 19:40   #4
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So by this logic, it could easily mistake a farmer with a rake for an armed citizen.

What could possibly go wrong?
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Old 03-02-2013, 19:59   #5
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Why does the thought of drones flying over my home make me think of the expression "PULL!"? This could become America's new favorite sport :rolleyes:

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Old 03-02-2013, 20:07   #6
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Blame the last ten years of War-On-Terror for this development.

As you all know, some of the best and most useful technologically advances (such as the microwave oven and the internet) came from military R&D.
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Old 03-02-2013, 20:09   #7
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Why does the thought of drones flying over my home make me think of the expression "PULL!"? This could become America's new favorite sport :rolleyes:

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Well yeah.. after all, dumbass Jesse Jackson claimed that semiautos could "take down commercial aircrafts and blow up railroads" LOL!!
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Wonderful. Now sell that technology to the company I worked for, applying new technology for detecting submarines at a distance.

We could, but it involved Superconducting MultiAxis Magnetic Gradiometer sensors. The gun detector is BS. It is based on a WAG.
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So by this logic, it could easily mistake a farmer with a rake for an armed citizen.

What could possibly go wrong?
Farmers don't rake at night.
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Old 03-02-2013, 20:22   #10
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Farmers don't rake at night.
depends on what cha farming
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Also includes tracking cell phones.

I wonder if they can also detect how much of the "new" cash a person has in their wallet?
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Old 03-02-2013, 20:38   #12
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I wonder if they can also detect how much of the "new" cash a person has in their wallet?
In my case not an issue. My wallet is thin today, I found a box of 45 ammo.
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Old 03-02-2013, 20:52   #13
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The article mentions the capability of detecting ONLY long guns. So the ultra-expensive all-porcelain Glock 7 can still be carried in an observed environment ... for now.
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( In the voice of Elmer Fudd cir. mid-60's...) " a v-e-e-e-ewey swippewee swope..."

concerning drones watching law abiding Americans...opens up a slew of potential abuses.


I am out and foil-wrapped...
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Farmers don't rake at night.
You think it can only 'detect' at night?

It also has day cameras.. Cmon now. lol
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Farmers don't rake at night.
Tobacco has killed more Americans than maryjanes... and let's not forget the health costs related to lung cancers.
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Old 03-02-2013, 21:24   #17
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You think it can only 'detect' at night?

It also has day cameras.. Cmon now. lol
As a professional photographer, I can tell you, light is everything.
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Old 03-02-2013, 21:28   #18
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Wonder what kind of damage a cheap quad rotor rc toy would do to those predators if it was flown kamakazi style into it?
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So by this logic, it could easily mistake a farmer with a rake for an armed citizen.

What could possibly go wrong?
To quote some else.."What difference does it make at this point"
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The article mentions the capability of detecting ONLY long guns. So the ultra-expensive all-porcelain Glock 7 can still be carried in an observed environment ... for now.


It doesn't really "detect" anything.


It has a low light camera and a IR camera, that can see body heat.


It looks for the angle your arms usually rest at when carrying a gun.


Thats how it "detects"



Also, none of the "customization" they talk about is custom. Its standard features on the Reaper.


Also, the photo they list, is not a MQ-1 Predator, but an MQ-9 Reaper.
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Sort of sounds like DHS wanted high definition and zooming capable FLIR, based on RussP's specs quote.

No reason for drones to be flying over this country in the first place. I wonder how many of these sorts of articles are pure disinfo or intentionally sensationalist and just meant to put fear into the populace about drone capabilities.
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It doesn't really "detect" anything.


It has a low light camera and a IR camera, that can see body heat.


It looks for the angle your arms usually rest at when carrying a gun.


Thats how it "detects"



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Good thing none of that stuff could ever be installed in a manned police helicopter
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Looks like it's time to put together my very own drone defense missile shield......

Think I'll start with a battery of these babies...

http://www.estesrockets.com/rockets/...440-magiciantm

Sure don't want those drones catching me peeing in the back yard or sumthin'

I know these things work....think I still have a few from 40 years ago that are still in low earth orbit....or at least ones I never found again after launching them..
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Why does the thought of drones flying over my home make me think of the expression "PULL!"? This could become America's new favorite sport :rolleyes:

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Well yeah.. after all, dumbass Jesse Jackson claimed that semiautos could "take down commercial aircrafts and blow up railroads" LOL!!
Could a .308 do the job?
What about 7.65?
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Could a .308 do the job?
What about 7.65?
Another news report says someone is now attempting to ban shotguns. Coincidence?


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