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02-28-2013, 08:01
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CLM Number 2129
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If they don't want to defend them selves that's their bidness, if I want to defend my self that's my bidness, and I have the right to own a gun to do so
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02-28-2013, 08:04
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transmogrifier
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: USA
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"Would rather die than use a gun to defend herself"
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02-28-2013, 08:07
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My arm!
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Bushwood
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlas
"Would rather die than use a gun to defend herself"

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^^^ Yes. I will shed no tear.
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02-28-2013, 08:07
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Central Virginia
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Some links...
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Originally Posted by HerrGlock
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Oh, just to make sure these are pretty well published regularly, remember these gems:
After helping to organize the Million Mom March, and even speaking at the event, Barbara Graham was convicted of shooting an innocent man. Now he is paralyzed for life. When police searched her home, they found three handguns and a Tec-9 "assault weapon." She received a life sentence on nine charges, including illegal possession of a firearm (guns are, for all intents and purposes, illegal to own in D.C.).
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http://www.tincher.to/mmm.htm
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Originally Posted by HerrGlock
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Originally Posted by HerrGlock
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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02-28-2013, 08:08
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NRA Life Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: New Jersey...sucks
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Originally Posted by Psychman
My sister pretty much said the same thing to me.
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I believe they are liars, but if that is their choice, they should do it. I don't see that being any kind of argument that she should be allowed to kill other people by preventing them from having guns.
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I deserve to lose a gunfight if I ever take gunfighting advice from James Yeager.
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02-28-2013, 08:08
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Location: Central Virginia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cybercowboy
A guy who is a frequent poster on a different forum, from Massachusetts, is totally anti-gun and anti-self defense. When asked what he'd do if somebody tried to bash in his front door, he said he'd just run out the back. When asked what he'd do to protect his family, he said he would just ask them to follow him. When asked what he'd do if one or more of his family was trapped in the house by the home invaders, he said he'd just run outside, call the police, and wait for them to come help.
He's totally serious. He saw nothing at all wrong with his logic. And he did whatever he could politically to ensure you would be forced to do the same thing. They walk among us.
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Did anyone ask him if his family knew of these plans?
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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02-28-2013, 08:10
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NRA Life Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: New Jersey...sucks
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RussP
Some links...
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Those go right along with what we have seen at every level of the anti-gun movement - anti-gunners want to be armed, they just want everybody else disarmed.
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Last edited by Bren; 02-28-2013 at 08:16..
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02-28-2013, 08:11
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CLM Number 221
Am Yisrael Chai
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: watching the Son rise again. ;)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Bird
That's her decision to make as a free person. Its an immoral decision. But its hers to make
It's not her's to make for me. ...
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This^ with the understanding that some people, for religious reasons, decide not to kill under any circumstance, which is their decision to make.
Speaking for myself, I'm a Christian that understands as I live by the "sword," I may fully die by the same. To each his/her own.
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“After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it.” - William S. Burroughs
"Nothing we're gonna do is going to fundamentally alter or eliminate the possibility of another mass shooting or guarantee that [our gun ban legislation] will bring gun deaths down..." - VPOTUS Joe Biden
"The object in quitting the Union was not to destroy, but to save the principles of the Constitution." - Alexander Stephens
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02-28-2013, 08:14
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CLM Number 221
Am Yisrael Chai
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Originally Posted by RussP
Did anyone ask him if his family knew of these plans?
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Hopefully he has one of those wives that understands her husband is a pansy, when it comes to guns, and therefore has gone out an purchased her own 'personal' Mossberg for protection of hearth and home.
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“After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it.” - William S. Burroughs
"Nothing we're gonna do is going to fundamentally alter or eliminate the possibility of another mass shooting or guarantee that [our gun ban legislation] will bring gun deaths down..." - VPOTUS Joe Biden
"The object in quitting the Union was not to destroy, but to save the principles of the Constitution." - Alexander Stephens
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02-28-2013, 09:14
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Fountain Hills, AZ
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It's a free country, she is allowed to be a victim by choice.
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02-28-2013, 09:42
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Support the 2nd
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RussP
Did anyone ask him if his family knew of these plans?
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Oh yeah, we were pretty brutal to him. Keep in mind, this was hashed out over a period of over five years. He was totally consistent - he wouldn't lift a finger to protect his family, other than dialing 911. Of course he claimed that his entire family was of the same mindset.
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02-28-2013, 09:56
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Platinum Membership
Fear no evil.
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Amarillo, Tx
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cybercowboy
Oh yeah, we were pretty brutal to him. Keep in mind, this was hashed out over a period of over five years. He was totally consistent - he wouldn't lift a finger to protect his family, other than dialing 911. Of course he claimed that his entire family was of the same mindset.
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I just imagined someone breaking into his home and cornering him, when his wife sneaks up behind the intruder and puts a 9" kitchen knife in the back of his neck. She then leaves the guy for a real man, and all life happily ever after. Except him, but he's a wussy sack of crap, so no one cares.
Made me smile.
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02-28-2013, 10:00
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NOT a victim.
Join Date: Oct 2007
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She's just a conservative that hasn't been shot at yet.
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02-28-2013, 10:01
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Use Linux!
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Land of Idiots and Libtards
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Well... she made a choice, now she has to live with the consequences of that choice. Glad I am not around her!
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02-28-2013, 10:02
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: MEMPHIS, TN
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A living, breathing dumb sheeple.
Last edited by WIMPY; 02-28-2013 at 10:07..
Reason: I watched the video
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02-28-2013, 10:05
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Southwest MI
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"Self defense is not an option."
WOW. Just wow...
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Last edited by PVolk; 02-28-2013 at 10:05..
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02-28-2013, 10:08
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Location: minnesota
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Bird
That's her decision to make as a free person. Its an immoral decision. But its hers to make
It's not her's to make for me.
I feel you have a duty to kill all goblins who threaten me and mine with lethal force. Lest they succeed and come for you and yours. Its not just my life I'm protecting in the process...its the long list of future potential victims.
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I agree with this.
Sacrificing your life for a criminal is not my choice. But we each have personal choices to make with our lives, and I feel my and my family's lives are more important than a thug's.
No one can ask the righteous deceased if, at their last breath, they still consider this to be the best choice they could have made for themselves or their loved ones. No do-overs in death.
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02-28-2013, 10:11
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Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast
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My grandma was is about the most liberal antigun person you could find. Now after her house has been broken into twice, she is armed.
If this woman would rather die than use a gun, its her choice.
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02-28-2013, 10:16
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Support the 2nd
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverMore1701
I just imagined someone breaking into his home and cornering him, when his wife sneaks up behind the intruder and puts a 9" kitchen knife in the back of his neck. She then leaves the guy for a real man, and all life happily ever after. Except him, but he's a wussy sack of crap, so no one cares.
Made me smile.
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Just based on his self-defense stance, you can only imagine his stances on other topics. We did have great fun with him after he posted the night before the Coakley/Brown special Senate election after Ted Kennedy died that we should all get used to saying "Senator Coakley" because, as a Massachusetts resident, he knew for a fact she would win and win handily. For the next two years, whenever he'd bloviate about some political matter, we'd tell him to write to Sen. Coakley and state his position.
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Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. You make valid moves while the pigeon knocks pieces over, poops on the chess board, and declares victory.
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02-28-2013, 10:16
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NRA Life Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: USA
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I GUESS she's entitled to her opinion.. but, no thanks.
Ill keep mine and yes, defend myself.
On a side note, this whole Trayvon Martin deal is still a thing?
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02-28-2013, 10:20
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Her choice of no self defense is hers to make, even if it seems ridiculous to us. As someone else said, her instincts might kick in with a willingness to fight if the threat was real and in her face.
I don't understand folks who refuse to eat meat. I don't understand conscientious objectors. I don't understand people who hoard stuff in their homes to the point of creating an unsafe environment. The fact that I don't get it doesn't mean anything except...I just don't get it.
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02-28-2013, 10:21
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Originally Posted by PhotoFeller
Her choice of no self defense is hers to make, even if it seems ridiculous to us. As someone else said, her instincts might discover a willingness to fight if the threat was real and in her face.
I don't understand folks who refuse to eat meat. I don't understand atheists. I don't understand people who hoard stuff in their homes to the point of creating an unsafe environment. The fact that I don't get it doesn't mean anything except...I just don't get it. 
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Ah, sure it's her choice to make but she is agitating to take that choice away from you. Therefore she sucks very badly.
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Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. You make valid moves while the pigeon knocks pieces over, poops on the chess board, and declares victory.
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02-28-2013, 10:29
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HerrGlock
Oh, just to make sure these are pretty well published regularly, remember these gems:
After helping to organize the Million Mom March, and even speaking at the event, Barbara Graham was convicted of shooting an innocent man. Now he is paralyzed for life. When police searched her home, they found three handguns and a Tec-9 "assault weapon." She received a life sentence on nine charges, including illegal possession of a firearm (guns are, for all intents and purposes, illegal to own in D.C.).
Annette Stevens president of Springfield, Illinois chapter of the Million Mom March was arrested for possession of an illegal gun that had its serial number ground off, and drugs. She plead guilty on the drug charges in exchange for dropping the gun charges.
HECTOR MARROQUIN, the founder of a gang intervention program called NO GUNS, was last week for being in possession of a firearm.
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+1 on that.
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02-28-2013, 10:36
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Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Minnesota
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JAS104
I GUESS she's entitled to her opinion.. but, no thanks.
Ill keep mine and yes, defend myself.
On a side note, this whole Trayvon Martin deal is still a thing?
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Google is your friend. Last I heard they are still trying to convince him to plea guilty to some charges. That is the goal for present.
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02-28-2013, 10:59
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NRA LIFE MEMBER
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JAS104
On a side note, this whole Trayvon Martin deal is still a thing?
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Unfortunately, yes.
Just wait, it'll be a BIG deal sometime this summer. Just as soon as the not-guilty verdict drops.
Katie bar the door...
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