GlockTalk.com
Home Forums Classifieds Blogs Today's Posts Search Social Groups



  
SIGN-UP
Notices

Glock Talk
Welcome To The Glock Talk Forums.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-28-2013, 08:01   #26
okie
GT Mayor
 
okie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Muskogee Ok.
Posts: 129,520


If they don't want to defend them selves that's their bidness, if I want to defend my self that's my bidness, and I have the right to own a gun to do so
__________________
Don't dial 911, dial 1911
If you don't stand behind our troops, PLEASE feel free to stand in front of them!
Schiit audio, everything else ain't.
okie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 08:04   #27
Atlas
transmogrifier
 
Atlas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: north of the equator
Posts: 14,864
"Would rather die than use a gun to defend herself"

The Okie Corral
__________________
June 28, 2012: the day the American republic died.

Uncontrolled, unaccountable government spending + Graduated income-tax = SLAVERY
Atlas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 08:07   #28
Al Czervik
My arm!
 
Al Czervik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Bushwood
Posts: 1,687
Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlas View Post
"Would rather die than use a gun to defend herself"

The Okie Corral
^^^ Yes. I will shed no tear.
Al Czervik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 08:07   #29
RussP
Moderator
 
RussP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Central Virginia
Posts: 42,549
Blog Entries: 64
Some links...
Quote:
Originally Posted by HerrGlock View Post
Quote:
Oh, just to make sure these are pretty well published regularly, remember these gems:

After helping to organize the Million Mom March, and even speaking at the event, Barbara Graham was convicted of shooting an innocent man. Now he is paralyzed for life. When police searched her home, they found three handguns and a Tec-9 "assault weapon." She received a life sentence on nine charges, including illegal possession of a firearm (guns are, for all intents and purposes, illegal to own in D.C.).
http://www.tincher.to/mmm.htm
Quote:
Originally Posted by HerrGlock View Post
Quote:
Annette Stevens president of Springfield, Illinois chapter of the Million Mom March was arrested for possession of an illegal gun that had its serial number ground off, and drugs. She plead guilty on the drug charges in exchange for dropping the gun charges.
http://sangamoncorifleassociation.or...iledapr06.html

http://www.tincher.to/stevens.htm
Quote:
Originally Posted by HerrGlock View Post
Quote:
HECTOR MARROQUIN, the founder of a gang intervention program called NO GUNS, was last week for being in possession of a firearm.
http://www.laweekly.com/related/to/Hector+Marroquin/
__________________
Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.

"Comment is free, but facts are sacred." C.P. Scott, 1921
RussP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 08:08   #30
Bren
NRA Life Member
 
Bren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 33,373
Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychman View Post
My sister pretty much said the same thing to me.
I believe they are liars, but if that is their choice, they should do it. I don't see that being any kind of argument that she should be allowed to kill other people by preventing them from having guns.
__________________
Open carry activists are to gun rights what the Westboro Baptist Church is to free speech.
Bren is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 08:08   #31
RussP
Moderator
 
RussP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Central Virginia
Posts: 42,549
Blog Entries: 64
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cybercowboy View Post
A guy who is a frequent poster on a different forum, from Massachusetts, is totally anti-gun and anti-self defense. When asked what he'd do if somebody tried to bash in his front door, he said he'd just run out the back. When asked what he'd do to protect his family, he said he would just ask them to follow him. When asked what he'd do if one or more of his family was trapped in the house by the home invaders, he said he'd just run outside, call the police, and wait for them to come help.

He's totally serious. He saw nothing at all wrong with his logic. And he did whatever he could politically to ensure you would be forced to do the same thing. They walk among us.
Did anyone ask him if his family knew of these plans?
__________________
Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.

"Comment is free, but facts are sacred." C.P. Scott, 1921
RussP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 08:10   #32
Bren
NRA Life Member
 
Bren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 33,373
Quote:
Originally Posted by RussP View Post
Some links...
Those go right along with what we have seen at every level of the anti-gun movement - anti-gunners want to be armed, they just want everybody else disarmed.
__________________
Open carry activists are to gun rights what the Westboro Baptist Church is to free speech.

Last edited by Bren; 02-28-2013 at 08:16..
Bren is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 08:11   #33
Peace Warrior
CLM Number 221
Am Yisrael Chai
 
Peace Warrior's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: With the other 7,999,999
Posts: 26,172
Blog Entries: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Bird View Post
That's her decision to make as a free person. Its an immoral decision. But its hers to make

It's not her's to make for me. ...
This^ with the understanding that some people, for religious reasons, decide not to kill under any circumstance, which is their decision to make.

Speaking for myself, I'm a Christian that understands as I live by the "sword," I may fully die by the same. To each his/her own.
__________________
“After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it.” - William S. Burroughs
"Nothing we're gonna do is going to fundamentally alter or eliminate the possibility of another mass shooting or guarantee that [our gun ban legislation] will bring gun deaths down..." - VPOTUS Joe Biden
"Love 'Em All!!! Let Jehovah sort 'em out." - The Holy Bible
"You gonna pull those pistols or whistle Dixie?" - Josey Wales
Peace Warrior is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 08:14   #34
Peace Warrior
CLM Number 221
Am Yisrael Chai
 
Peace Warrior's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: With the other 7,999,999
Posts: 26,172
Blog Entries: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by RussP View Post
Did anyone ask him if his family knew of these plans?


Hopefully he has one of those wives that understands her husband is a pansy, when it comes to guns, and therefore has gone out an purchased her own 'personal' Mossberg for protection of hearth and home.
__________________
“After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it.” - William S. Burroughs
"Nothing we're gonna do is going to fundamentally alter or eliminate the possibility of another mass shooting or guarantee that [our gun ban legislation] will bring gun deaths down..." - VPOTUS Joe Biden
"Love 'Em All!!! Let Jehovah sort 'em out." - The Holy Bible
"You gonna pull those pistols or whistle Dixie?" - Josey Wales
Peace Warrior is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 09:14   #35
dling
Senior Member
 
dling's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Fountain Hills, AZ
Posts: 176
It's a free country, she is allowed to be a victim by choice.
dling is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 09:42   #36
Cybercowboy
Support the 2nd
 
Cybercowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: SW Missouri
Posts: 2,470
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by RussP View Post
Did anyone ask him if his family knew of these plans?
Oh yeah, we were pretty brutal to him. Keep in mind, this was hashed out over a period of over five years. He was totally consistent - he wouldn't lift a finger to protect his family, other than dialing 911. Of course he claimed that his entire family was of the same mindset.
__________________
Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. You make valid moves while the pigeon knocks pieces over, poops on the chess board, and declares victory.
Cybercowboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 09:56   #37
NeverMore1701
Platinum Membership
Fear no evil.
 
NeverMore1701's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Amarillo, Tx
Posts: 27,439
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cybercowboy View Post
Oh yeah, we were pretty brutal to him. Keep in mind, this was hashed out over a period of over five years. He was totally consistent - he wouldn't lift a finger to protect his family, other than dialing 911. Of course he claimed that his entire family was of the same mindset.
I just imagined someone breaking into his home and cornering him, when his wife sneaks up behind the intruder and puts a 9" kitchen knife in the back of his neck. She then leaves the guy for a real man, and all life happily ever after. Except him, but he's a wussy sack of crap, so no one cares.



Made me smile.
__________________
And if we should die tonight
We should all die together
Raise a glass of wine
For the last time
NeverMore1701 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:00   #38
Beware Owner
NOT a victim.
 
Beware Owner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 9,143
She's just a conservative that hasn't been shot at yet.
__________________
Free men have arms; slaves do not. Tyrants mistrust the people, hence they deprive them of arms.
Criminals for Gun Control
Myth: Gun Control Reduces Crime
Homegrown Terrorism
Beware Owner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:01   #39
Glock20 10mm
Use Linux!
 
Glock20 10mm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Land of Idiots and Libtards
Posts: 14,501
Well... she made a choice, now she has to live with the consequences of that choice. Glad I am not around her!
__________________
Using Microsoft is like playing Russian roulette with an automatic pistol... the results are always messy
"The Constitution is my Law. The Declaration of Independence my bible. And Freedom my religion." - Me
Thick skin... a must in a free society.
Glock20 10mm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:02   #40
WIMPY
Senior Member
 
WIMPY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: MEMPHIS, TN
Posts: 238
A living, breathing dumb sheeple.

Last edited by WIMPY; 02-28-2013 at 10:07.. Reason: I watched the video
WIMPY is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:05   #41
PVolk
Senior Member
 
PVolk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Southwest MI
Posts: 937
"Self defense is not an option."


WOW. Just wow...
__________________
NRA Life Member
*19c, 23c, 24*

Last edited by PVolk; 02-28-2013 at 10:05..
PVolk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:08   #42
janice6
Platinum Membership
NRA
 
janice6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: minnesota
Posts: 17,234


Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Bird View Post
That's her decision to make as a free person. Its an immoral decision. But its hers to make

It's not her's to make for me.

I feel you have a duty to kill all goblins who threaten me and mine with lethal force. Lest they succeed and come for you and yours. Its not just my life I'm protecting in the process...its the long list of future potential victims.


I agree with this.

Sacrificing your life for a criminal is not my choice. But we each have personal choices to make with our lives, and I feel my and my family's lives are more important than a thug's.

No one can ask the righteous deceased if, at their last breath, they still consider this to be the best choice they could have made for themselves or their loved ones. No do-overs in death.
__________________
janice6

"Peace is that brief, glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading". Anonymous

Earp: Not everyone who knows you hates you.
DOC: I know it ain't always easy bein' my friend....but I'll BE THERE when you need me.
janice6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:11   #43
somebodybuymeaglock
Senior Member
 
somebodybuymeaglock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast
Posts: 359
My grandma was is about the most liberal antigun person you could find. Now after her house has been broken into twice, she is armed.

If this woman would rather die than use a gun, its her choice.
__________________
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes."
No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session."

-Mark Twain
somebodybuymeaglock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:16   #44
Cybercowboy
Support the 2nd
 
Cybercowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: SW Missouri
Posts: 2,470
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverMore1701 View Post
I just imagined someone breaking into his home and cornering him, when his wife sneaks up behind the intruder and puts a 9" kitchen knife in the back of his neck. She then leaves the guy for a real man, and all life happily ever after. Except him, but he's a wussy sack of crap, so no one cares.



Made me smile.
Just based on his self-defense stance, you can only imagine his stances on other topics. We did have great fun with him after he posted the night before the Coakley/Brown special Senate election after Ted Kennedy died that we should all get used to saying "Senator Coakley" because, as a Massachusetts resident, he knew for a fact she would win and win handily. For the next two years, whenever he'd bloviate about some political matter, we'd tell him to write to Sen. Coakley and state his position.
__________________
Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. You make valid moves while the pigeon knocks pieces over, poops on the chess board, and declares victory.
Cybercowboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:16   #45
JAS104
NRA Life Member
 
JAS104's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: USA
Posts: 2,612
I GUESS she's entitled to her opinion.. but, no thanks.
Ill keep mine and yes, defend myself.

On a side note, this whole Trayvon Martin deal is still a thing?
__________________
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. Ronald Reagan
JAS104 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:20   #46
PhotoFeller
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Midwest and south
Posts: 2,680
Blog Entries: 2
Her choice of no self defense is hers to make, even if it seems ridiculous to us. As someone else said, her instincts might kick in with a willingness to fight if the threat was real and in her face.

I don't understand folks who refuse to eat meat. I don't understand conscientious objectors. I don't understand people who hoard stuff in their homes to the point of creating an unsafe environment. The fact that I don't get it doesn't mean anything except...I just don't get it.

Last edited by PhotoFeller; 02-28-2013 at 10:23..
PhotoFeller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:21   #47
Cybercowboy
Support the 2nd
 
Cybercowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: SW Missouri
Posts: 2,470
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhotoFeller View Post
Her choice of no self defense is hers to make, even if it seems ridiculous to us. As someone else said, her instincts might discover a willingness to fight if the threat was real and in her face.

I don't understand folks who refuse to eat meat. I don't understand atheists. I don't understand people who hoard stuff in their homes to the point of creating an unsafe environment. The fact that I don't get it doesn't mean anything except...I just don't get it.
Ah, sure it's her choice to make but she is agitating to take that choice away from you. Therefore she sucks very badly.
__________________
Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. You make valid moves while the pigeon knocks pieces over, poops on the chess board, and declares victory.
Cybercowboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:29   #48
oldman11
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,263
Quote:
Originally Posted by HerrGlock View Post
Oh, just to make sure these are pretty well published regularly, remember these gems:

After helping to organize the Million Mom March, and even speaking at the event, Barbara Graham was convicted of shooting an innocent man. Now he is paralyzed for life. When police searched her home, they found three handguns and a Tec-9 "assault weapon." She received a life sentence on nine charges, including illegal possession of a firearm (guns are, for all intents and purposes, illegal to own in D.C.).

Annette Stevens president of Springfield, Illinois chapter of the Million Mom March was arrested for possession of an illegal gun that had its serial number ground off, and drugs. She plead guilty on the drug charges in exchange for dropping the gun charges.

HECTOR MARROQUIN, the founder of a gang intervention program called NO GUNS, was last week for being in possession of a firearm.
+1 on that.
__________________
Travel light and come well balanced.
oldman11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:36   #49
larry_minn
Silver Membership
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 17,798
Quote:
Originally Posted by JAS104 View Post
I GUESS she's entitled to her opinion.. but, no thanks.
Ill keep mine and yes, defend myself.

On a side note, this whole Trayvon Martin deal is still a thing?
Google is your friend. Last I heard they are still trying to convince him to plea guilty to some charges. That is the goal for present.
larry_minn is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:59   #50
sheriff733
NRA LIFE MEMBER
 
sheriff733's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 3,273
Quote:
Originally Posted by JAS104 View Post
On a side note, this whole Trayvon Martin deal is still a thing?
Unfortunately, yes.

Just wait, it'll be a BIG deal sometime this summer. Just as soon as the not-guilty verdict drops.

Katie bar the door...
__________________
Sent with Probably Cause and Irrisputable Proof

"This isn't domestic abuse. This is hilarious!" -Peter Griffin
sheriff733 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 13:35.



Homepage
FAQ
Forums
Calendar
Advertise
Gallery
GT Wiki
GT Blogs
Social Groups
Classifieds


Users Currently Online: 1,363
384 Members
979 Guests

Most users ever online: 2,244
Nov 11, 2013 at 11:42