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Old 03-13-2013, 06:26   #101
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If 125 gr bullet is the sweet spot a six in barrel is the hot spot. Working with 147 gr bullets and H110 the sig puts that last 2" to good use. Very consistent with small variations in velocity. I have not got a max load nailed down but the velocity will be knocking on the 1400 fps door. I have several more powders to work out.

I have shot several batches of 125 gr at max velocity (a few may be over) out of the Six barrel. T'is a string to 100 yds. I bet the drop is 3" are there about. If the gong sound is any test the bullet is still move post haste.

357 sig Is not my favorite cartridge to reload.

147 accurate bullet is a penetrating son of a gun.
And penetration is what many handgun bullets are lacking. Go for it!
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Old 03-13-2013, 08:15   #102
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Accurate has a 147gr bullet profile for .357sig in their catalog. The lube grooves and profile of some 9mm bullets do not work so great with the sig.
They sure don't, I have a six cavity truncated cone 124gr Lee mould that has served me very well.
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They sure don't, I have a six cavity truncated cone 124gr Lee mould that has served me very well.
I used to cast bullets. I may be doing it again soon.
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I used to cast bullets. I may be doing it again soon.
I never did get tired of it. I have fun making the ingots, sizing them, all that. Great thing that the temperature is going to make it easier for me now.
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I never did get tired of it. I have fun making the ingots, sizing them, all that. Great thing that the temperature is going to make it easier for me now.
Go for it, brother.
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Go for it, brother.
Is that lead burnout I'm hearing in your voice?
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Is that lead burnout I'm hearing in your voice?
Not at all!
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Old 03-14-2013, 10:08   #108
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Do a little research and find out what the 42,00 p.s.i. NATO loading in 9mm can do. Of course without FMJ bullets. With 115 grain hollowpoints I suspect it can do anything the .357 SIG can do.
No it won't.
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No it won't.
That's right, the .357 Sig bullet is going a lot faster than the 9mm bullet.
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That's right, the .357 Sig bullet is going a lot faster than the 9mm bullet.
Maybe people think that people are putting the 9mm down, specially when they really don't comprehend the Sig. I think that the misconception comes when we say that the Sig is a faster 9mm. The 9mm, at it's peak, can reach what the Sig does while it sleeps. The best comparison I can find is .40 versus the 10mm, same diameter, different specs. Of course there are the loyalists, however, I don't see where anybody is putting the 9mm down. Thing is, if you want to know what the Sig is, just picture a 9mm going faster, and that's it! No more to it!
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The 9mm is what I shoot the most rounds out of a year. Last year I shot some where near five cases.

At may age the G34 and rabbit poot rounds are all these old wrist, elbows and shoulders want.

I spend a numbers of 9mm rounds with a sig 210 hunting cottontail. There is just no way anyone could shoot the sig 210 and not like the 9mm. There has never been a paper target the 9mm could not take out as fast and as sure as any semiauto round there is
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The 9mm is what I shoot the most rounds out of a year. Last year I shot some where near five cases.

At may age the G34 and rabbit poot rounds are all these old wrist, elbows and shoulders want.

I spend a numbers of 9mm rounds with a sig 210 hunting cottontail. There is just no way anyone could shoot the sig 210 and not like the 9mm. There has never been a paper target the 9mm could not take out as fast and as sure as any semiauto round there is
I used to hunt CA jackrabbits with my G17. The 9mm JHPs would put them down in a hurry.
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Maybe people think that people are putting the 9mm down, specially when they really don't comprehend the Sig. I think that the misconception comes when we say that the Sig is a faster 9mm. The 9mm, at it's peak, can reach what the Sig does while it sleeps. The best comparison I can find is .40 versus the 10mm, same diameter, different specs. Of course there are the loyalists, however, I don't see where anybody is putting the 9mm down. Thing is, if you want to know what the Sig is, just picture a 9mm going faster, and that's it! No more to it!
That is a great comparison, I wish I would have thought of that. The same proportional advantage as the 10mm over the 40, would be the 9mm+p (+p+ is not defined) compared to a 357 sig.

As for the G33, I just gave mine to one of my sons. It will suffer some with ammo rated at 1,350fps, but you can find loads that will work. With Power Pistol powder and 125 GD's I easily exceeded 1,400fps in my former G33.
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Maybe people think that people are putting the 9mm down, specially when they really don't comprehend the Sig.
I agree. The .357sig is my preferred caliber because it has a greater range and power than 9mm, but my 9mm pistols get more carry time than my G-32 because of the 9mm pistols' better CCW size.

I have great respect for both 9mm and .357sig; I just wish there was a .357sig carry pistol in the size and configuration I prefer. Even with that I would carry either caliber with confidence.
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As for the G33, I just gave mine to one of my sons.
Yesterday I asked my son (on his way to another stint in Japan) what firearm he wants me to pass on to him and he asked for my G-32.

Happy to know the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, eh?
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...but my 9mm pistols get more carry time than my G-32 because of the 9mm pistols' better CCW size...

The Glock G19/23/32 platform is the perfect size for carry and is probably the most carried weapon in the USA. If you're having trouble then maybe it's your holster.
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The 9x19 +p+ 115gr JHPs do 1400FPS out of my G17.
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The Glock G19/23/32 platform is the perfect size for carry and is probably the most carried weapon in the USA. If you're having trouble then maybe it's your holster.
I have a 9mm pistol that is as reliable as my G-32, is as well made, and carries better than the Glock because it's smaller.
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I have a 9mm pistol that is as reliable as my G-32, is as well made, and carries better than the Glock because it's smaller.
Well who makes this 9mm of yours?
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I used to hunt CA jackrabbits with my G17. The 9mm JHPs would put them down in a hurry.
Wow, really?? I would hope so if that is your carry piece.

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The 9x19 +p+ 115gr JHPs do 1400FPS out of my G17.
I think you have said this 4 times in this thread. I have a 4.5" Glock 357 sig that throws a factory 125gr GD bullet over 1,550 fps everytime. That's 10 more grains and over 150 fps more velocity. I can almost do the same thing with handloads. I would not advise you to try and get 1,400fps in a 9mm 115gr bullet with handloads.

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Well who makes this 9mm of yours?
Steyr S9-A1. You better pick one up while they're still available at a decent price and thank me later for the advice.
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Steyr S9-A1. You better pick one up while they're still available at a decent price and thank me later for the advice.
Do you know if anyone makes a .357sig barrel for the .40 version?
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