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Old 02-23-2013, 15:07   #1
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Army Awards New M4/M4A1 Contract to FN

http://kitup.military.com/2013/02/ar...ntract-fn.html
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Old 02-23-2013, 15:24   #2
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The Army’s decision to dump the three-round burst setting will give soldiers a more consistent trigger and better accuracy.

http://kitup.military.com/2013/02/ar...ntract-fn.html


Does this mean no full-auto, just semi-auto? Or does it mean full-auto with semi-auto option?
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Old 02-23-2013, 15:42   #3
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The Army’s decision to dump the three-round burst setting will give soldiers a more consistent trigger and better accuracy.

http://kitup.military.com/2013/02/ar...ntract-fn.html


Does this mean no full-auto, just semi-auto? Or does it mean full-auto with semi-auto option?
I believe it means full-auto and semi, but no burst. There is already a version in use like that, I understand (haven't seen it).
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Old 02-23-2013, 15:44   #4
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I believe it means full-auto and semi, but no burst. There is already a version in use like that, I understand (haven't seen it).
M4 (no A1) is Safe-Semi-Burst
M4A1 is Safe-Semi-Full
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Old 02-23-2013, 17:06   #5
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The barrel is also heavier.
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Old 02-23-2013, 17:22   #6
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I hope FN sells AR to civilans in the future, I know a little late to a crowded market but it is not like the price could be higher than the FN FS2000 and the FN SCAR they sell
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Old 02-23-2013, 18:01   #7
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Basically back to the A1 & A2 functions.
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Old 02-23-2013, 19:13   #8
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I hope FN sells AR to civilans in the future, I know a little late to a crowded market but it is not like the price could be higher than the FN FS2000 and the FN SCAR they sell
True enough. I think (and could be wrong as it was a while ago) that one of my A2s in the service was a FN. I know the M249 was.

I had a PS90 and FN 5.7 as well. They make great stuff.
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True enough. I think (and could be wrong as it was a while ago) that one of my A2s in the service was a FN. I know the M249 was.

I had a PS90 and FN 5.7 as well. They make great stuff.
Yes, FN has previously made M16s.
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Old 02-23-2013, 19:34   #10
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I hope FN sells AR to civilans in the future, I know a little late to a crowded market but it is not like the price could be higher than the FN FS2000 and the FN SCAR they sell

They already do. Palmetto State Armory guns are built of FN components!
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Yes, FN has previously made M16s.
I do remember that the ARs mags were Checkmate, well at least some of them were. They were a mixed bunch.
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Old 02-24-2013, 10:42   #12
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They already do. Palmetto State Armory guns are built of FN components!
yep, you want an FN buy from palmetto state; at least for the barrel
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PSA has had 16" uppers for sale ($399-$499) for 7 days in a row now. They sell out daily but it's great to see them for sale daily if even for 2-3 hours
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Old 02-24-2013, 11:50   #14
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They already do. Palmetto State Armory guns are built of FN components!

So, if a company sells rifles built off HK91 parts kits, but also substitutes some parts of their own or from other manufacturers, would you still claim it was an genuine HK91?
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So, if a company sells rifles built off HK91 parts kits, but also substitutes some parts of their own or from other manufacturers, would you still claim it was an genuine HK91?
Well when you find FN AR15 receivers for sale, you let us know.
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Well when you find FN AR15 receivers for sale, you let us know.
That was kinda my point - just because FN is making parts for some companies doesn't make them FN AR-15s.
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Old 02-24-2013, 16:17   #17
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FN won't be able to sell AR-15s to civilians. I believe it is part of the contract. But good for FN, they make quality products. Every M16 I've ever held is FN.
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'bout time they started renovating.

Lots of old rifles being used.
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'bout time they started renovating.

Lots of old rifles being used.


Old receivers maybe. Most of the "Old Rifles" have been through reset and come out with new barrels, new parts etc, several times.


All my guns go to gauging and refit every time we come home from a deployment. If they make it through the deployment intact.
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The Army’s decision to dump the three-round burst setting will give soldiers a more consistent trigger and better accuracy.

http://kitup.military.com/2013/02/ar...ntract-fn.html


Does this mean no full-auto, just semi-auto? Or does it mean full-auto with semi-auto option?

It means some units are ditching the M-4, to go to the M-4a1, which is full auto.
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FN won't be able to sell AR-15s to civilians. I believe it is part of the contract. But good for FN, they make quality products. Every M16 I've ever held is FN.
Not sure how such a stipulation could be put on FN when it wasn't enforced on Colt or Sabre (before Sabre went TU), and I doubt Remington was going to give up it's civilian AR line just to get the military contract.
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Old 02-24-2013, 18:35   #22
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Not sure how such a stipulation could be put on FN when it wasn't enforced on Colt or Sabre (before Sabre went TU), and I doubt Remington was going to give up it's civilian AR line just to get the military contract.
I think it has to do with Colt owning the TDP. My research indicates that any company not named Colt that takes up an M4 contract with the military can't sell to civilians. Sabre I don't think even got one out of the factory.
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I think it has to do with Colt owning the TDP. My research indicates that any company not named Colt that takes up an M4 contract with the military can't sell to civilians. Sabre I don't think even got one out of the factory.
I'd be interested to see where that info is coming from. All of that just seems awfully odd to me.
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I'd be interested to see where that info is coming from. All of that just seems awfully odd to me.
Grant from GR Tactical. Check M4carbine.net.
Flip through the pages here. Grant usually has a pretty good idea of what's what. http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=113928&page=7

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I think it has to do with Colt owning the TDP. My research indicates that any company not named Colt that takes up an M4 contract with the military can't sell to civilians. Sabre I don't think even got one out of the factory.
How can Colt own the TDP when the US Army Board of Ordnance contracted them to develop the M4 and M4A1 in the first place?
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