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02-23-2013, 04:21
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Obviously, we need a bolt-action AR design... with a 30-round magazine.
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02-23-2013, 05:40
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Originally Posted by Fungunner
Obviously, we need a bolt-action AR design... with a 30-round magazine.
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Mossberg has just what you have requested. Ships with five or ten round AR-15 magazine but will accept the larger ones. Just don't try to shoot from the prone position using one of the military-stack sixty round ones.
http://www.mossberg.com/products/rif...ire/mvp-series
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02-23-2013, 11:24
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Originally Posted by Big Bird
Good Lord... this is old news and any outrage now about Zumbo is misplaced. He got religion and learned from his misguided opinion. Uncle Ted had a come to Jesus meeting with Zumbo and set his mind straight. Zumbo now sits on the board of the 2d Amendment Foundation. Give it a rest. He's on our side morons....
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I agree completely, those who continue to vilify Jim Zumbo are doing more damage to gun owners than the Brady Bunch ever could. Zumbo is one of the most knowledgeable and talented big game hunting writers in modern times. He has always been a promoter of hunting, hunter access, and hunters rights.
As for the turds who claim to be pro gun yet use the derogatory term "Fudds" to describe hunters, fellow shooters, they are every bit as despicable as those who work to destroy our 2A rights. I'd wager that not one among those contemptible sops has ever invested a tiny fraction of the effort to promote the shooting sports as Zumbo has.
Look at yourselves in the mirror, put an end to the backstabbing, and grow up!
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02-23-2013, 11:37
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I call them "assault" rifles, which may upset some people. Excuse me, maybe I'm a traditionalist, but I see no place for these weapons among our hunting fraternity. I'll go so far as to call them "terrorist" rifles.
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Zumbo the Fudd, 2/16/2007
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02-23-2013, 11:37
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Originally Posted by JEEPX
Many clubs around here do not allow military style (AR or AK) rifles to be used. I have two leases. The landowners specifically specified in writing that they did not want military assault looking weapons on their property.
I agree with them. I do not allow them on my land for hurting Such rifles have no place in the hunting world.
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Originally Posted by HollowHead
I agree 100%, but Mr. Zumbo said they had no place anywhere, period. HH
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Hypocrisy at it's best, alive and well within us!
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02-23-2013, 11:44
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Originally Posted by jdeere_man
Hypocrisy at it's best, alive and well within us!
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Backing out of an organization because they appoint someone to their board who doesn't wany you or I to own an assault weapon is hypocracy? Do tell... HH
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02-23-2013, 12:02
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Originally Posted by HollowHead
I agree 100%, but Mr. Zumbo said they had no place anywhere, period. HH
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Originally Posted by JEEPX
Many clubs around here do not allow military style (AR or AK) rifles to be used. I have two leases. The landowners specifically specified in writing that they did not want military assault looking weapons on their property.
I agree with them. I do not allow them on my land for hurting Such rifles have no place in the hunting world.
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What is the problem using military looking rifles for hunting?
You both ought to be ashamed of yourselves for those stupid comments.
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02-23-2013, 12:08
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Originally Posted by AK_Stick
You both ought to be ashamed of yourselves for those stupid comments.
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For supporting what conduct a property owner allows on his own private property? Really? HH
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02-23-2013, 12:11
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No, for the stupid comment of military style rifles have no place in the hunting field.
Shows a lack of common sense, and experience.
Would be just the same as someone saying horses have no place in hunting, because ATV's and internal combustion engines exist.
Congrats, you just Zumbo'd.
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02-23-2013, 12:21
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Originally Posted by AK_Stick
No, for the stupid comment of military style rifles have no place in the hunting field.
Shows a lack of common sense, and experience.
Would be just the same as someone saying horses have no place in hunting, because ATV's and internal combustion engines exist.
Congrats, you just Zumbo'd.
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Where did I say that? HH
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02-23-2013, 12:35
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Originally Posted by HollowHead
Backing out of an organization because they appoint someone to their board who doesn't wany you or I to own an assault weapon is hypocracy? Do tell... HH
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How did you feel about him when he said that military style weapons had no place in hunting? I guess if you agreed then you're not a hypocrite so I would need to rescind my accusation.
However it is my opinion you are both wrong in regards to the issue.
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02-23-2013, 12:39
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I only allow hunting on my land if you use an AK/AR with a full mag. No high powered sniper rifles allowed. What do you say to that?
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02-23-2013, 12:44
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Originally Posted by jdeere_man
How did you feel about him when he said that military style weapons had no place in hunting?
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Indifferent. It's what he said about personal ownership that rubbed me the wrong way. HH
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02-23-2013, 12:46
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Indifferent. It's what he said about personal ownership that rubbed me the wrong way. HH
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My concern with the statement about them having no place in hunting is you're giving the anti's fuel to get rid of them because a lot of them (erroneously) see the only legitimate use of firearms as hunting.
If you don't want to hunt with them that's fine. Your business. If landowners don't want them being used to hunt on their land, fine their land, their right, their business.
I just don't think we need to be shouting from the rooftops military style rifles are not for hunting for two reasons. Some do hunt with them, and lib anti-gun fuel.
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02-23-2013, 12:48
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It's jeepx, the guy who considers career soldiers "welfare recipients" - he's serious.
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02-23-2013, 12:53
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Originally Posted by HollowHead
Where did I say that? HH
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Originally Posted by HollowHead
I agree 100%, but Mr. Zumbo said they had no place anywhere, period. HH
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Um, page 1?
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02-23-2013, 12:58
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Um, page 1?
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And you automatically assumed as to which part of the post I was responding to. Well done. HH
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02-23-2013, 13:05
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Originally Posted by HollowHead
And you automatically assumed as to which part of the post I was responding to. Well done. HH
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You said 100%, not much room for interpretation.
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02-23-2013, 13:13
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Originally Posted by HollowHead
And you automatically assumed as to which part of the post I was responding to. Well done. HH
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Saying I agree 100% typically means complete agreement.
I mean, I'm just going off of normal language useage.
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02-23-2013, 13:45
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My apologies then for not pointing out spefically what I was 100% in agreement with in JeepX's post. HH
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02-23-2013, 14:23
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My apologies then for not pointing out spefically what I was 100% in agreement with in JeepX's post. HH
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Means little without clarification. Specifically, do you agree or disagree with his last sentence?
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02-23-2013, 15:31
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Originally Posted by HollowHead
My apologies then for not pointing out spefically what I was 100% in agreement with in JeepX's post. HH
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And I for assuming.
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02-23-2013, 15:37
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Did the libs, whose posts I am unable to see, explain why it's better to kill a deer with a wood stocked boly action than with a plastic stocked semi-auto? Any explanation at all?
I've personally hunted and killed deer with an AR and I keep a couple of Bushmaster 10-round magazines just for that purpose. The deer were no more or less dead than when I use my bolt action .308, ;lever action .45-70 or .44 mag. revolver.
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02-23-2013, 16:12
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Originally Posted by Bren
Did the libs, whose posts I am unable to see, explain why it's better to kill a deer with a wood stocked boly action than with a plastic stocked semi-auto? Any explanation at all?
I've personally hunted and killed deer with an AR and I keep a couple of Bushmaster 10-round magazines just for that purpose. The deer were no more or less dead than when I use my bolt action .308, ;lever action .45-70 or .44 mag. revolver.
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This may come as a shock, but there has yet to be an explanation given.
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02-23-2013, 22:37
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Simple.
One choice is hunting, the other is murder.
OK, I gotta fetch a shovel, the zumbo is getting deep around here.
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