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Old 03-04-2013, 20:43   #51
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OP, THIS------> My sold Glock 39 vs my XDs.

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Both shoot the same...just a pubic hair softer recoil on the G39 due to larger and thicker slide.

Glock 30 and 36 are as thick as the G39 when it comes to slide thickness.
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Old 03-04-2013, 21:04   #52
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Just picked up an XDS and I love it,nice fit in the hand,fits in a cargo pants pocket and seems to be a well made gun,it's competing with my Kahr PM9 for ultra compact carry.The Kahr is still smaller and lighter but only gives 1 more round of 9mm over the 45 Xds
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Old 03-05-2013, 05:54   #53
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G30 or XDS. I have both, but the XDS conceals better.
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Old 03-05-2013, 06:07   #54
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XDs!!!!
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Old 03-06-2013, 13:54   #55
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thanks - i found the catalog with the specs...

looking at the dbl stack models with ~4" barrels and 9+ mags, the glock 30 gen 4 is smaller in evey dim except the grip width which is 0.02" - 0.06 wider. the new 30S is even ligher making it ~7-9oz lighter than the XDs.

G30 Gen4, 6.77" long (my 30S is ~6.78"), 23.81 (30S=20.28)oz., 4.8" (4.35" with 9rd mag) H, 1.28" W, 10+1 cap.

XDm is 6.9" long, 27oz, 4.75" H, 1.26" W, capacity of 9+1
XD Compact 7.3" long, 29oz, 5" H, 1.22" W, capacity of 10+1

even with the sizes in close range, i would not want to deal with the added weight and grip safety of the XDs.
Yep, XD's do weigh more! Metal guide rod, metal sights, generally heavier build, some with captive springs, etc. Even a bit blockier on some models (and when compared to a Glock, that is saying something! )I deal with weight better than width and bulk, but that is an individual preference.


Both are good guns, and some prefer Glock's, which is perfectly acceptable. When I handle the two and compare side-by-side, I prefer the XD's in .45ACP, hands down. I prefer Glocks in 9mm. I just ordered my G20SF 10mm, and am very much looking forward to getting it!

But for grip fit and feel in many small guns (including the .45ACP), I feel like Glock fell asleep and ignored the US concealed carry market, and is just now beginning to catch up in this space. They ignored the segment, and others already went slim. Glock is now starting to respond. Good! More options for us!

Be careful of using just width specs from the factory. See the picture posted above of the XDs. The grip width is listed by Springfield as 0.90", but the maximum width of the GUN is 1" (not 0.9"!!!!). We know the grip width of the Glock, but I have not seen a factory spec on the max width. The slide can be wider than the grip spec in many cases! Best to handle both, or see comparative pictures, because the numbers don't always tell the entire story. Even grip width is deceptive in terms of feel (to illustrate this, the G20 and G20SF both have an identical grip WIDTH of 1.27"... but FEEL very different in the hand due to the increased circumference due to length, making one very difficult to hold for folks with smaller hands!). For me, the XD grip and feel in .45ACP is better. With the newer models, Glock is trying to catch up, and perhaps I will prefer them to the XD some day.

I like the grip safety. I never notice it is there, and I have no issues with it. But some feel otherwise, and are entitled to their views.

AWGD8, great comparison photos!!! Thanks!
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Old 03-06-2013, 14:01   #56
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In any other caliber I'd say "get the Glock" almost every time. But I don't care for Glock's .45s. I don't like most XDs, but would be willing the give the XDs in .45 a shot. (excuse the pun).
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Old 03-06-2013, 16:16   #57
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In any other caliber I'd say "get the Glock" almost every time. But I don't care for Glock's .45s. I don't like most XDs, but would be willing the give the XDs in .45 a shot. (excuse the pun).
Whats wrong with the 45 Glocks? They are soft shooting and very very accurate. Most accurate of all Glocks too.
I have not had one hiccup since 2004 with my G30!
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Old 03-06-2013, 17:28   #58
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OP, THIS------> My sold Glock 39 vs my XDs.

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Both shoot the same...just a pubic hair softer recoil on the G39 due to larger and thicker slide.

Glock 30 and 36 are as thick as the G39 when it comes to slide thickness.
that's alot of gun for only 5rds... for heavy and single stacks, i prefer 1911 style..

do you guys carry the these with the safety ON or OFF?
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Old 03-06-2013, 18:12   #59
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Safety? We don't need no stinkin' safety! But seriously Glocks and XDs' don't have manual ones.
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Old 03-06-2013, 18:13   #60
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My vote for the G36.
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Old 03-06-2013, 18:58   #61
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I bought an XDs in 45 ACP (9mm coming out soon). I can pocket carry it very well in a pocket holster. I like the lack of a manual safety. It has been very reliable, accurate and easy to shoot. The trigger is well done and has a very fast reset.

I think the XDs is the best small 45 ACP overall. I consider the Glock 36, but based on comments by some owners, I decided against it. I also considered the Kahr PM45 and it would have been fine too. All three were fine, but the Springfield just called out to me the most.

My current deep concealment gun is a Kahr PM9. It is not a 45 ACP, but it is also an excellent choice for a pocketable pistol.

Anyway, in a small 45 ACP, I really would go with the XDs, however, there are a few good choices out there.
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Old 03-06-2013, 19:49   #62
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that's alot of gun for only 5rds... for heavy and single stacks, i prefer 1911 style..

do you guys carry the these with the safety ON or OFF?
You need to see one in person and shoot if possible. It's as small as the current popular 9mms out there and it's holding 5 rounds of 45acp, 7 of 9mm when it hits the shelves.

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Old 03-09-2013, 01:45   #63
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I had weighed in on the XDM .45 3.8
But - I just bought a new H&K .45c and it seems to be a bit more desirable for my use right now.
I'll know more as time goes by...


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Old 03-09-2013, 08:57   #64
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i had both, sold the 30sf bad move, should have kept the glock
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Old 03-11-2013, 13:23   #65
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My XD45 has been fantastic. No issues at all, still very pleased with it.
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Old 03-11-2013, 14:44   #66
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Those xds's are a nice package, hard to go wrong. A fullsize model with 8 rounds, would be a hit too.

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Old 03-11-2013, 17:56   #67
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For me it's a no-brainer, the G30SF hands down.
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Old 03-11-2013, 20:34   #68
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Safety? We don't need no stinkin' safety! But seriously Glocks and XDs' don't have manual ones.
thanks - so that's the mag release that looks like a safety
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For me it's a no-brainer, the G30SF hands down.
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I owned a XDS for 2 weeks. Not a comfortable gun for me to carry, the aggressive nature of the pistol tore into my slacks and knuckles any time I went into pocket.

So I sold it and went back to carrying my STI Shadow.

1911 in .45 is the ONLY .45 to have.
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Old 03-12-2013, 17:20   #71
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If you want to carry alot and shoot little take the Xdm. If you want a gun to shoot a lot and carry a lot pick the 30. The Xdm is a good gun. However, it's grip is to short and slim for my hand with multiple shots on multiple targets. Ymmv. The 30 tames the 45 recoil and fills my hand. Additionally , it would make a heck of a blunt force instrument . Loaded or empty.

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Old 03-12-2013, 18:16   #72
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XDMs 45 has a split-safety-trigger just like Glock's !
Patent must have run out ?
Feels good dry-firing it.
If your use to Glock triggers, than this would be a good pick.
Guys say its reliable, accurate and no muzzle flip.

G36 is lighter, feels better, and only a tad bigger.

G30 or the new G30s has the thin slide.
10 big, bad ass rounds of .45 stopping power.
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Old 03-12-2013, 18:44   #73
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I was looking for both as well, the G30s or XDM. I have a Kimber Ultra CDP2 and was looking for something small with higher capacity in .45. Time for buying 10 round pistols is coming to, a hopefully brief, pause here in NY. Every lgs that I went to basically told me good luck finding an XDM or G30s, thats what brought me here to Glock Talk, researched the G30 and decided to broaden my search to include a G30sf, but, still no luck. I read on here that the Gen4 G30 is the same size frame as the G3 G30sf with no back straps installed and the next day I find a G4 G30, I held it and bought right away, my first Glock. Took it to the range this weekend and I am really happy with it, no regrets. Good luck with your search

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Old 03-13-2013, 04:38   #74
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1911 in .45 is the ONLY .45 to have.
I've had my share of 1911's and loved them all, but I'm more about simplicity and functionality these days, and Glock fits that bill for me.

But hey, 1911's are beautiful handguns, and works of art.
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