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Old 02-26-2013, 21:21   #41
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Another vote for the G36.

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Old 02-27-2013, 16:51   #42
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which model and what are the dimensions that define the "size" that u perfer?
In a full size, my XD.45ACP 4" (fits hands better than the Glock sf versions... meaning almost identical to 9mm grip).

Considering XDm, too, but first priority was the .45ACP XDs (currently on order, and looking forward to it!).

Size preference is relative and personal. I have some tiny guns that I like (.380, 340PD). I also just ordered a G20sf 10mm. I can hold all fine, so size isn't always a deterrent. But when a smaller gun can meet or exceed the performance of a larger gun while feeling better to hold, it appeals to me. Glock was slow on the .45ACP front in terms of size in my opinion. I like the XD's better.

I will not be trading in my G17 for a 9mm XD, though... and I think the G26 is better than the subcompact XD.
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Old 02-27-2013, 18:11   #43
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I only own one XDM and its the 3.8 in .45ACP. I went with it because I could not find a G30 Gen4. I also like the 9 round CC and the 13 round H/D. The XDM 3.8 shoots great.
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Old 02-28-2013, 14:24   #44
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I have no experience with the XD .45s. But I'll stick with my G-36. It hides and rides very very well. Very accurate and goes bang every time. That's good enough for me.
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Old 03-02-2013, 22:18   #45
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im sure the XD's are good (i can see alot glock influence in the design) but glocks are lighter & smaller relative to mag cap. / barrel length (XD's web site does a poor job of giving dimensions compaired to glock's site).

are all XD's single stack mag? for me it's all about the dbl stack mags - i love my g36 but i love the dbl stack mag more...
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Old 03-04-2013, 17:11   #46
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im sure the XD's are good (i can see alot glock influence in the design) but glocks are lighter & smaller relative to mag cap. / barrel length (XD's web site does a poor job of giving dimensions compaired to glock's site).

are all XD's single stack mag? for me it's all about the dbl stack mags - i love my g36 but i love the dbl stack mag more...
No. The S are single stack. Others are double stack (and quite often pack more rounds into a smaller space than comparable Glocks).


For comparison:
SLIM (single stack)... since you don't care for the G36, the XDm might be something to consider!
G36 is 7" long, 20.11oz, 4.76" H, 1.1" W, capacity 6+1
XDm is 6.9" long, 27oz, 4.75"H, 1.26"W, capacity of 9+1
XDs is 6.3" long, 21.5oz, 4.4"H, 0.9" W, capacity of 5+1

COMPACT
G30 is 7" long, 24oz., 4.8" H, 1.27" W, capacity of 9+1
XDm is 6.9" long, 27oz, 4.75" H, 1.26" W, capacity of 9+1
XD Compact 7.3" long, 29oz, 5" H, 1.22" W, capacity of 10+1

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G21 is 8.22 long, 26.5oz, 5.47" H, 1.27" W, capacity of 13+1
XD Full is 7.3" long, 30oz, 5.5" H, 1.22" W, capacity of 13+1

XD's do tend to weight a smidge more. They also have factory metal mags and factory metal sights. In the grand scheme of things, carrying a few more ounces is easier for me than hiding extra width or length, but to each his or her own. I do prefer the XD grip. Another factor that is ignored in the spec is the grip circumference. Some Glocks have a rather long front-to-rear length (and some SF models trim this down), but the grip width isn't all of the story in terms of how they fill the hand.

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Old 03-04-2013, 17:15   #47
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im sure the XD's are good (i can see alot glock influence in the design) but glocks are lighter & smaller relative to mag cap. / barrel length (XD's web site does a poor job of giving dimensions compaired to glock's site).

are all XD's single stack mag? for me it's all about the dbl stack mags - i love my g36 but i love the dbl stack mag more...
As for the website, one can get the XD catalog from the XD site by clicking on it (pdf). It has all XD's in a catalog, with Ben Franklin-like table with all calibers, dimensions, etc. displayed on two clean pages (widths, capacities with/without extensions, all dimensions, weight with/without mags, etc.. Really easy to read and compare, if you need some stats fast.
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Old 03-04-2013, 18:00   #48
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Glock 30 Gen 4 may be one of the best compact 45's out there
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Old 03-04-2013, 20:36   #49
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thanks - i found the catalog with the specs...

looking at the dbl stack models with ~4" barrels and 9+ mags, the glock 30 gen 4 is smaller in evey dim except the grip width which is 0.02" - 0.06 wider. the new 30S is even ligher making it ~7-9oz lighter than the XDs.

G30 Gen4, 6.77" long (my 30S is ~6.78"), 23.81 (30S=20.28)oz., 4.8" (4.35" with 9rd mag) H, 1.28" W, 10+1 cap.

XDm is 6.9" long, 27oz, 4.75" H, 1.26" W, capacity of 9+1
XD Compact 7.3" long, 29oz, 5" H, 1.22" W, capacity of 10+1

even with the sizes in close range, i would not want to deal with the added weight and grip safety of the XDs.
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Old 03-04-2013, 20:44   #50
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X=>9(4). Do the math!

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Old 03-04-2013, 21:43   #51
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OP, THIS------> My sold Glock 39 vs my XDs.

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Both shoot the same...just a pubic hair softer recoil on the G39 due to larger and thicker slide.

Glock 30 and 36 are as thick as the G39 when it comes to slide thickness.
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Old 03-04-2013, 22:04   #52
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Just picked up an XDS and I love it,nice fit in the hand,fits in a cargo pants pocket and seems to be a well made gun,it's competing with my Kahr PM9 for ultra compact carry.The Kahr is still smaller and lighter but only gives 1 more round of 9mm over the 45 Xds
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Old 03-05-2013, 06:54   #53
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G30 or XDS. I have both, but the XDS conceals better.
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Old 03-05-2013, 07:07   #54
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XDs!!!!
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Old 03-06-2013, 14:54   #55
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thanks - i found the catalog with the specs...

looking at the dbl stack models with ~4" barrels and 9+ mags, the glock 30 gen 4 is smaller in evey dim except the grip width which is 0.02" - 0.06 wider. the new 30S is even ligher making it ~7-9oz lighter than the XDs.

G30 Gen4, 6.77" long (my 30S is ~6.78"), 23.81 (30S=20.28)oz., 4.8" (4.35" with 9rd mag) H, 1.28" W, 10+1 cap.

XDm is 6.9" long, 27oz, 4.75" H, 1.26" W, capacity of 9+1
XD Compact 7.3" long, 29oz, 5" H, 1.22" W, capacity of 10+1

even with the sizes in close range, i would not want to deal with the added weight and grip safety of the XDs.
Yep, XD's do weigh more! Metal guide rod, metal sights, generally heavier build, some with captive springs, etc. Even a bit blockier on some models (and when compared to a Glock, that is saying something! )I deal with weight better than width and bulk, but that is an individual preference.


Both are good guns, and some prefer Glock's, which is perfectly acceptable. When I handle the two and compare side-by-side, I prefer the XD's in .45ACP, hands down. I prefer Glocks in 9mm. I just ordered my G20SF 10mm, and am very much looking forward to getting it!

But for grip fit and feel in many small guns (including the .45ACP), I feel like Glock fell asleep and ignored the US concealed carry market, and is just now beginning to catch up in this space. They ignored the segment, and others already went slim. Glock is now starting to respond. Good! More options for us!

Be careful of using just width specs from the factory. See the picture posted above of the XDs. The grip width is listed by Springfield as 0.90", but the maximum width of the GUN is 1" (not 0.9"!!!!). We know the grip width of the Glock, but I have not seen a factory spec on the max width. The slide can be wider than the grip spec in many cases! Best to handle both, or see comparative pictures, because the numbers don't always tell the entire story. Even grip width is deceptive in terms of feel (to illustrate this, the G20 and G20SF both have an identical grip WIDTH of 1.27"... but FEEL very different in the hand due to the increased circumference due to length, making one very difficult to hold for folks with smaller hands!). For me, the XD grip and feel in .45ACP is better. With the newer models, Glock is trying to catch up, and perhaps I will prefer them to the XD some day.

I like the grip safety. I never notice it is there, and I have no issues with it. But some feel otherwise, and are entitled to their views.

AWGD8, great comparison photos!!! Thanks!
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Old 03-06-2013, 15:01   #56
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In any other caliber I'd say "get the Glock" almost every time. But I don't care for Glock's .45s. I don't like most XDs, but would be willing the give the XDs in .45 a shot. (excuse the pun).
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Old 03-06-2013, 17:16   #57
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In any other caliber I'd say "get the Glock" almost every time. But I don't care for Glock's .45s. I don't like most XDs, but would be willing the give the XDs in .45 a shot. (excuse the pun).
Whats wrong with the 45 Glocks? They are soft shooting and very very accurate. Most accurate of all Glocks too.
I have not had one hiccup since 2004 with my G30!
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Old 03-06-2013, 18:28   #58
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OP, THIS------> My sold Glock 39 vs my XDs.

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Both shoot the same...just a pubic hair softer recoil on the G39 due to larger and thicker slide.

Glock 30 and 36 are as thick as the G39 when it comes to slide thickness.
that's alot of gun for only 5rds... for heavy and single stacks, i prefer 1911 style..

do you guys carry the these with the safety ON or OFF?
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Old 03-06-2013, 19:12   #59
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Safety? We don't need no stinkin' safety! But seriously Glocks and XDs' don't have manual ones.
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Old 03-06-2013, 19:13   #60
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My vote for the G36.
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