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02-14-2013, 18:13
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Hmmm 2400gr bullet, 240 gr of powder??
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02-15-2013, 10:14
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Yo
Ouch!
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02-15-2013, 11:00
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Did he say 270 ftlb of recoil?????
25400 ft/lb of muzzle energy. I wonder what you would shoot at?
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02-15-2013, 11:12
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Quote:
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Did he say 270 ftlb of recoil?????
25400 ft/lb of muzzle energy. I wonder what you would shoot at?
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Dinosaurs and blue whales, mostly. Also good for satellites in low orbit.
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02-15-2013, 12:18
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Maybe elephants, rhinos, and hippos.
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02-15-2013, 13:57
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Did he say 270 ftlb of recoil?????
25400 ft/lb of muzzle energy. I wonder what you would shoot at?
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Incoming meteors over Russia?
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02-15-2013, 17:43
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270 ft lb of recoil? Can that be correct? As I remember it takes about 70 - 100 joules to break an human arm.
Isn't 270 ft lb about 360 joules?
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02-18-2013, 08:44
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270 ft lb of recoil? Can that be correct? As I remember it takes about 70 - 100 joules to break an human arm.
Isn't 270 ft lb about 360 joules?
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I'd probably break my collarbone.
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02-18-2013, 09:02
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That's quite a round. Looks quite a bit like the .950 JDJ which can push a 3600 gr bullet (just over half a pound) @ 2200 fps. If memory serves, the rifles chambering it weighed in excess of 85 pounds and even then the recoil was s'posed to be vicious.
ETA: Just for grins I ran both .950 JDJ projectiles through the Schwartz bullet penetration equation and got 135 inches of soft tissue penetration for the 3600 gr projectile @ 2200 fps and 90 inches of soft tissue penetration for the 2400 gr projectile @ 2200 fps. Whoa.
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02-18-2013, 09:18
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Finally, a round to compete with the 10mm! Lol
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02-18-2013, 19:13
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Originally Posted by M 7
That's quite a round. Looks quite a bit like the .950 JDJ which can push a 3600 gr bullet (just over half a pound) @ 2200 fps. If memory serves, the rifles chambering it weighed in excess of 85 pounds and even then the recoil was s'posed to be vicious.
ETA: Just for grins I ran both .950 JDJ projectiles through the Schwartz bullet penetration equation and got 135 inches of soft tissue penetration for the 3600 gr projectile @ 2200 fps and 90 inches of soft tissue penetration for the 2400 gr projectile @ 2200 fps. Whoa.
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There has to be an upper limit in caliber-bullet weight-recoil.
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02-18-2013, 20:36
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Originally Posted by SCmasterblaster
There has to be an upper limit in caliber-bullet weight-recoil.
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I don't believe that I ever said there wasn't.
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02-19-2013, 02:25
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02-19-2013, 12:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by M 7
That's quite a round. Looks quite a bit like the .950 JDJ which can push a 3600 gr bullet (just over half a pound) @ 2200 fps. If memory serves, the rifles chambering it weighed in excess of 85 pounds and even then the recoil was s'posed to be vicious.
ETA: Just for grins I ran both .950 JDJ projectiles through the Schwartz bullet penetration equation and got 135 inches of soft tissue penetration for the 3600 gr projectile @ 2200 fps and 90 inches of soft tissue penetration for the 2400 gr projectile @ 2200 fps. Whoa.
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This video is of the .950 JDJ. Quite an impressive round.
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The guys from Knight Rifles "Americas Muzzleloader" head out to the range with Dave Fricke of Millennium Manufacturing to shoot the largest center fire rifle ever made. Only 12 people have ever shot the .950 JDJ as a rifle and only 3 were ever made this was the first and the lightest weighing in at 50 lbs.. 2400 grain bullet and 240 grains of powder.
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38,685ft-lbs when loaded with the 3600gr projectile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.950_JDJ
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02-19-2013, 12:34
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38,685ft-lbs(!) ouch!
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02-19-2013, 12:41
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If only it were less than 2 meters across. You could blow up the Death Star with it!
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02-19-2013, 18:05
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If only it were less than 2 meters across. You could blow up the Death Star with it!
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That's less than 78 inches!
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02-19-2013, 19:20
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Why?
Too heavy to carry for hunting.
Too slow for armored vehicles.
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02-20-2013, 06:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by M 7
That's quite a round. Looks quite a bit like the .950 JDJ which can push a 3600 gr bullet (just over half a pound) @ 2200 fps.
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That's nearly 40,000 ft/lbs of muzzle energy.
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02-20-2013, 07:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RWBlue
Why?
Too heavy to carry for hunting.
Too slow for armored vehicles.
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Agreed.
May be able to do a little lathe work on a projectile tip (i.e. Tri-dart), add some good inards, and cure those problems though.
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02-20-2013, 07:53
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Originally Posted by SCmasterblaster
Maybe elephants, rhinos, and hippos.
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God no
People don't really even hunt with the 50BMG, let alone something like this.
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