[CAcop]

Originally Posted by certifiedfunds

Errrr, code laws speed limits are all set politically. That's a sime fact.


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Did you read the articles?

[Glockdude1]

Olofson was released in 2010.

[wally05]

Originally Posted by Ruggles

"If you're anti-authority, don't call the cops... answer your own damn alarm calls and violent crimes."

Sounds reasonable to me.

Of course most who this applies too will say "I would handle it myself anyways" in typical internet bravado. Wonder how many would back that up in real life?

Haha, isn't that the truth!


As for JTFs, that is exactly right. "Well, we can't get to this guy, so grab him for something so we can." I'm definitely not bashing fed LE b/c they are LEOs and serve a great purpose. But, they are not this "all knowing", "all reaching" LE force that the media makes them out to be. There is a balance with local LE power.

Speed limits are not just set politically... good grief. At least in Indiana, speed limits can be adjusted based on a lot of factors and local areas can set their own speed regs with request to the state, which usually gets put through.

Originally Posted by certifiedfunds

[B][I]"We don't have a choice but to call the cops. Certain things they have a monopoly on.

To protect me? No.

But if something breaks bad in my house they need to take the report.

Also we pay for them. "

Haha, the hypocrisy is strong with you. You can most definitely not call police. It's not a requirement. Plenty of crimes go unreported every year, even the FBI UCR states that. Quit paying your state and local taxes since you don't agree with police, right? You have an insurance plan that requires a police report? That's okay, just tell them that you don't agree with the idea of police.

You not calling gives me time to serve people that actually want me to do my job. I dislike "sovereign citizens" for similar reasons other than the fact that they openly like to target police.

[GIockGuy24]

There was a case before this one that has importance to having M16 fire control parts in any firearm, not just AR15's. There was a case brought against somebody for having M16 parts in a rifle and they were charged with making an unregistered machine gun. At the time there were no laws against using M16 parts in non-machine guns. The defense was the owner was saving money by using surplus parts. The prosecution could only get the rifle to unreliably double fire once in recorded testing. The defense won the case. After that case, the ATF made it illegal to use M16 parts in any non-machine gun. Their reasoning was that they were too easy to convert to full auto by using, "available" grandfathered unregistered drop in auto sears and also allowing the use of M16 parts might promote theft from the US military.

Because of the changes in the laws, it is now illegal to have M16 parts in any non-machine gun, even if it won't fire full auto. Just having the parts in the firearm is a crime. Nothing else has to be proved.

The law only applies to M16 parts, parts from other machine guns are not illegal by name for use in non-machine guns as long as they don't fire full auto.

There were some AR15 makers that used surplus M16 parts in their rifles before the law changed. Usually though, the surplus M16 parts were sold in economic build kits.

[GVFlyer]

Originally Posted by GIockGuy24

There was a case before this one that has importance to having M16 fire control parts in any firearm, not just AR15's. There was a case brought against somebody for having M16 parts in a rifle and they were charged with making an unregistered machine gun. At the time there were no laws against using M16 parts in non-machine guns. The defense was the owner was saving money by using surplus parts. The prosecution could only get the rifle to unreliably double fire once in recorded testing. The defense won the case. After that case, the ATF made it illegal to use M16 parts in any non-machine gun. Their reasoning was that they were too easy to convert to full auto by using, "available" grandfathered unregistered drop in auto sears and also allowing the use of M16 parts might promote theft from the US military.

Because of the changes in the laws, it is now illegal to have M16 parts in any non-machine gun, even if it won't fire full auto. Just having the parts in the firearm is a crime. Nothing else has to be proved.

The law only applies to M16 parts, parts from other machine guns are not illegal by name for use in non-machine guns as long as they don't fire full auto.

There were some AR15 makers that used surplus M16 parts in their rifles before the law changed. Usually though, the surplus M16 parts were sold in economic build kits.

That's perfectly consistent.

[AK_Stick]

Originally Posted by GIockGuy24

There was a case before this one that has importance to having M16 fire control parts in any firearm, not just AR15's. There was a case brought against somebody for having M16 parts in a rifle and they were charged with making an unregistered machine gun. At the time there were no laws against using M16 parts in non-machine guns. The defense was the owner was saving money by using surplus parts. The prosecution could only get the rifle to unreliably double fire once in recorded testing. The defense won the case. After that case, the ATF made it illegal to use M16 parts in any non-machine gun. Their reasoning was that they were too easy to convert to full auto by using, "available" grandfathered unregistered drop in auto sears and also allowing the use of M16 parts might promote theft from the US military.

Because of the changes in the laws, it is now illegal to have M16 parts in any non-machine gun, even if it won't fire full auto. Just having the parts in the firearm is a crime. Nothing else has to be proved.

The law only applies to M16 parts, parts from other machine guns are not illegal by name for use in non-machine guns as long as they don't fire full auto.

There were some AR15 makers that used surplus M16 parts in their rifles before the law changed. Usually though, the surplus M16 parts were sold in economic build kits.

M16 bolts/full auto carriers are not an issue.

[GIockGuy24]

Originally Posted by AK_Stick

M16 bolts/full auto carriers are not an issue.

The M16 hammers, disconnectors and triggers are a huge issue. It is a crime having them in a firearm that is not a registered machine gun. It doesn't have to be an AR15. Those parts from other full auto firearms do not have the same restrictions. The M16 parts are restricted by name.

[GIockGuy24]

Originally Posted by GVFlyer

That's perfectly consistent.

The reason M16 parts have been singled out is the supposedly grandfathered drop in auto sears existence. All other, "conversion" parts are already restricted.

[certifiedfunds]

Originally Posted by CAcop

Did you read the articles?

Yes. I said speed limits are set politically. You said that makes it unenforceable. I replied with The articles you linked validate exactly that. Political.

Here's the first one, for example:

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/ci_...uzsentinel.com

Councilman David Terrazas said he received about two dozen calls and emails from residents concerned about a proposed increase from 25 mph to 30 mph on 13 segments of roadway to allow for radar enforcement. Residents were worried about increased danger along school routes and other roads used by pedestrians and bicyclists.

Political

On a 5-1 vote, the council approved an increase for two heavily traveled roads, Ocean Street and North Branciforte Avenue. But Terrazas convinced a majority of council members to study alternative ways to reduce speed on 11 other segments.

Political


The following excerpt is particularly interesting. It basically shows that the law says motorists will find their own "safe speed".

Clark explained when the “safe speed” on a roadway — a measure of the 85th highest speed out of 100 recorded — is higher than 7 mph over the posted limit, courts won't uphold traffic tickets because those roads are seen as speed traps. By increasing the speed limit to within the 7 mph of the safe speed, radar can been used.

Nowhere in the article does it discuss using scientific or engineering data to extrapolate or calculate the speed limit. It is 100% political.

the national 55mph speed limit that expired in the 90s -- 100% political

Citizens petitioning their city council for speed limit issues -- 100% political

Adjusting speed limits to allow for enforcement -- 100% political

[certifiedfunds]

Originally Posted by wally05

Haha, isn't that the truth!


As for JTFs, that is exactly right. "Well, we can't get to this guy, so grab him for something so we can." I'm definitely not bashing fed LE b/c they are LEOs and serve a great purpose. But, they are not this "all knowing", "all reaching" LE force that the media makes them out to be. There is a balance with local LE power.

Speed limits are not just set politically... good grief. At least in Indiana, speed limits can be adjusted based on a lot of factors and local areas can set their own speed regs with request to the state, which usually gets put through.



Haha, the hypocrisy is strong with you. You can most definitely not call police. It's not a requirement. Plenty of crimes go unreported every year, even the FBI UCR states that. Quit paying your state and local taxes since you don't agree with police, right? You have an insurance plan that requires a police report? That's okay, just tell them that you don't agree with the idea of police.

You not calling gives me time to serve people that actually want me to do my job. I dislike "sovereign citizens" for similar reasons other than the fact that they openly like to target police.

Originally Posted by TBO

The butt hurt is strong.

Yes it is. Its flowing through wally05 like a cheap mexican buffet

[countrygun]

Originally Posted by certifiedfunds

Yes it is. Its flowing through wally05 like a cheap mexican buffet

Trying to bring it back to a Cop-Bashing Thread" as per your usual M.O. ?

[TBO]

A thread with the subject of illegal rifle modifications (which is a reposted topic, dealt with in great detail when it first happened) is driven off to debates about speed limits... to further the cause against the bad bad bad LEO.

[certifiedfunds]

Originally Posted by countrygun

Trying to bring it back to a Cop-Bashing Thread" as per your usual M.O. ?

I'm not a cop basher.

[certifiedfunds]

Originally Posted by TBO

A thread with the subject of illegal rifle modifications (which is a reposted topic, dealt with in great detail when it first happened) is driven off to debates about speed limits... to further the cause against the bad bad bad LEO.

LEO don't set speed limits.

[certifiedfunds]

Originally Posted by TBO

A thread with the subject of illegal rifle modifications (which is a reposted topic, dealt with in great detail when it first happened) is driven off to debates about speed limits... to further the cause against the bad bad bad LEO.

TBO - I went back and read several pages in an attempt to determine where the thread turned into "debates about speed limits... to further the cause against the bad bad bad LEO." Best I can tell CACop did it.

Originally Posted by CAcop

We are able to police because most people agree with the laws. For example speed limits. Here in CA they must be within 5 mph of the 85 percentile of drivers on that street with a speed limit taking into account the design of the street. Essentially the lawmakers said "If 85% of the people are going under the safe speed then it is presumed safe."

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[billn]

When M16 first came out in viet nam we were told they never needed cleaned. We had many jams and barrels blowing up. Then we were told to clean them all the time. lol