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Old 02-15-2013, 09:15   #126
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So tell me how speed limits are set in CA.
poikilotrm wont obey them anyways

guy was caught making an illegal firearm, plain and simple.

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Old 02-15-2013, 10:29   #127
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So tell me how speed limits are set in CA.
No idea. In most states it is done through DOT engineers using standard formulas that take surface, grade, and curvature of the road into account.

Perhaps CA does do as you suggest, wherein laws are made after building a road, allowing everyone to drive as they please for a period, then setting the speed limit at what a census shows to be what the average person has subjectively judged to be a safe speed on that road. Personally I find your assertion crapulous, and I would bet big money that you are 100% wrong, but then who knows? Maybe the government in CA is comprised of mental deficients with fanciful notions.

Perhaps you can enlighten us all. Please, cite where the methodology you assert was used, was used. There will be documentation, unless the CA DOT prefers to keep their official records written on the flanks of gryphons and pegasii.

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Old 02-15-2013, 10:31   #128
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poikilotrm wont obey them anyways
True dat. That and loose women are my only vices.

So, how you doin?

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guy was caught making an illegal firearm, plain and simple.
Umm, no. No he wasn't. Plain and simple.

You may wish to actually read up on the case there, Nancy Grace.
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Old 02-15-2013, 11:00   #129
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So tell me how speed limits are set in CA.
Well probably like any other state, engineers calculate the safest maximum speed of a given section of road then deduct a percentage for error correction, submit this to the state government that in turn makes it law.
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:15   #130
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poikilotrm wont obey them anyways

guy was caught making an illegal firearm, plain and simple.
Lets hope one day you aren't caught possessing an illegal firearm.

The guy is being prosecuted for breaking an unconstitutional law or tax evasion. Take your pick.

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Old 02-15-2013, 12:16   #131
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No idea. In most states it is done through DOT engineers using standard formulas that take surface, grade, and curvature of the road into account.

Perhaps CA does do as you suggest, wherein laws are made after building a road, allowing everyone to drive as they please for a period, then setting the speed limit at what a census shows to be what the average person has subjectively judged to be a safe speed on that road. Personally I find your assertion crapulous, and I would bet big money that you are 100% wrong, but then who knows? Maybe the government in CA is comprised of mental deficients with fanciful notions.

Perhaps you can enlighten us all. Please, cite where the methodology you assert was used, was used. There will be documentation, unless the CA DOT prefers to keep their official records written on the flanks of gryphons and pegasii.
How much are you willing to bet?
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So tell me how speed limits are set in CA.
Politically, just like every other state and locality.
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Lets hope one day you aren't caught possessing an illegal firearm.

The guy is being prosecuted for breaking an unconstitutional law or tax evasion. Take your pick.
According to whom? HH
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According to whom? HH
According to me, of course. I'm eminently qualified to make that determination as I read at or above the 7th grade level and have the test scores to prove it.

Perhaps you can change my perspective and direct me to the part of the Constitution that authorizes the federal government to regulate the making, selling or possession of guns?

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I'm still waiting for any of the police officers in this thread to post their Oath. I'd like to compare it to the one I've sworn as a member of the military.
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According to whom? HH
To the COTUS scholars on this thread of course. Clear to see that hundreds of years of debating the darn thing can end now that they have arrived with the "truth" of the COTUS. Thank the Lord they are here to edumucate us poor fools
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Old 02-15-2013, 15:47   #137
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To the COTUS scholars on this thread of course. Clear to see that hundreds of years of debating the darn thing can end now that they have arrived with the "truth" of the COTUS. Thank the Lord they are here to edumucate us poor fools
Yup.....some of our brightest and most respected have had in depth debates over the years due to differing views and interpretations. Thankfully GT can clear it up for us.
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Old 02-15-2013, 15:57   #138
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I'm still waiting for any of the police officers in this thread to post their Oath. I'd like to compare it to the one I've sworn as a member of the military.
Back when we were chasing Indians out of settler's cabins, the pertinent portion was, where I came from at least,

".....To defend and uphold the Constitution Of The United States of America, and uphold the Constitution and enforce the laws of the State of "XXX", the County of "XXX", and the City of "XXX"....

No mention of enforcing any Federal laws, and not by accidental omission either

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To the COTUS scholars on this thread of course. Clear to see that hundreds of years of debating the darn thing can end now that they have arrived with the "truth" of the COTUS. Thank the Lord they are here to edumucate us poor fools
Thank you. Arguing with someone whose entire platform is emotional is tiresome and futile. HH
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Apparently they are not only constitutional scholars, they are well versed with the Law as well.

They Must have slept in a Holiday Inn last night.
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Apparently they are not only constitutional scholars, they are well versed with the Law as well.

They Must have slept in a Holiday Inn last night.


Must have had a "COTUS : The Real Meaning " conference at that Holiday Inn. I can only imagine the debate around the continental breakfast table each morning.
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Must have had a "COTUS : The Real Meaning " conference at that Holiday Inn. I can only imagine the debate around the continental breakfast table each morning.
Deciding on which, "This Is What I Feel The Constitution Is In My Heart, So There!" seminar to attend is worth the admission alone. HH
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I'm still waiting for any of the police officers in this thread to post their Oath. I'd like to compare it to the one I've sworn as a member of the military.
dude you must be a newbie . just trying to get one to answer a yes or no question much less an oath roflmao .
usually you will get a question to your question or something obtuse and you will never ever hear one say they were wrong .EVER .
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dude you must be a newbie . just trying to get one to answer a yes or no question much less an oath roflmao .
usually you will get a question to your question or something obtuse and you will never ever hear one say they were wrong .EVER .
Too true, the admittance of being wrong occurs about 1 per 15,000 post
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Back when we were chasing Indians out of settler's cabins, the pertinent portion was, where I came from at least,

".....To defend and uphold the Constitution Of The United States of America, and uphold the Constitution and enforce the laws of the State of "XXX", the County of "XXX", and the City of "XXX"....

No mention of enforcing any Federal laws, and not by accidental omission either
Ummm, the Constitution IS Federal law. Wow. The level of cognition on display...
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Ummm, the Constitution IS Federal law. Wow. The level of cognition on display...
So we'll add sets and subsets to the list of stuff you don't understand.
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Deciding on which, "This Is What I Feel The Constitution Is In My Heart, So There!" seminar to attend is worth the admission alone. HH
Or just reading.
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So we'll add sets and subsets to the list of stuff you don't understand.
Are you trying to suggest that the Constitution, THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND, is not Federal law?
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Ummm, the Constitution IS Federal law. Wow. The level of cognition on display...
I don't know about your State, but ours has a Constitution .

Do you have a Constitution in the State of ignorance you dwell in?
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Are you trying to suggest that the Constitution, THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND, is not Federal law?
Not at all. Tell me how one "enforces" a constituting law. You don't.

As to the federal statutes that actually do have enforcement provisions...as has been said, we don't do that.

But let's flip it: how do you think the local gendarmes should "enforce" part of the Constitution? I'll let you pick the part you want, but I insist you stay within the proper meanings of words.
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