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02-14-2013, 15:34
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Originally Posted by KalashniKEV
Stop the insanity.
1) He installed a FULL AUTO FCG (not a burst sear) into a modified AR WITH THE AUTO SEAR AXIS PIN. There were also mods to the BCG.
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The above is the key.
My Colt AR-15 armorer instuctor explained the feds find the sear pin hole to be the felony as far as they are concerned. He mentioned this in regards to Colt and their previous tendency to have different bolts for different guns and the bridge in the reciever to avoid the conversion of their guns to full auto. They have changed some since then.
Being able to consistently get it to go full auto just finished him off.
Moral of the story stay away from guns that are not registered MGs with all the proper paperwork that have that have a hole above the selector lever.
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02-14-2013, 15:35
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Originally Posted by certifiedfunds
All of which should be perfectly legal. Why do his political views matter?
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Because you think something should be legal, does not make it so.
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02-14-2013, 15:49
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Originally Posted by KalashniKEV
Stop the insanity.
1) He installed a FULL AUTO FCG (not a burst sear) into a modified AR WITH THE AUTO SEAR AXIS PIN. There were also mods to the BCG.
2) He loaned it to a "customer" while he waited on parts and instructed him not to place the weapon on "burst" or it would "jam."
3) The "customer" took it to a public range and fired three bursts before it malfunctioned, drawing the attention of Law Enforcement.
4) Upon seizing the firearm, Agents were able to perform 3 x 20 round mag dumps in a row, cyclic, with no malfunctions- with the selector in the third position, utilizing the installed auto sear.
Separate hilarity:
1) When interviewed regarding his machine gun, he told investigators, "That's nothing... I have a .50 cal sniper rifle!"
2) He modified 80% lowers and sold them without doing 4473s.
3) He was illegally using an FFL that was registered to another individual or entity.
4) Was in the Klan or WAR or something...
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We agree on VERY LITTLE..but in this case..SPOT ON and I could not have said it better. D bag got caught and is not paying for being DUMB
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02-14-2013, 16:07
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Originally Posted by AK_Stick
Because you think something should be legal, does not make it so.
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Shall not be infringed.
No constitutional federal authority.
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02-14-2013, 16:08
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Disturbing to see so many here eager to attack someone who violated laws that shouldn't exist.
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02-14-2013, 16:10
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Originally Posted by certifiedfunds
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He probably thought that way too. Up until his first shower in the prison and realized he should have brought soap on a rope.
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I wonder if your assessment of "The Wizard of Oz" would sound something like "A teenaged orphan runs away with three psychotic AD/HD patients and a little dog. She kills the first two women she meets." --Sinecure 07/03/2006
Freakin' awsome!! Kickin it old school. Hot sheet on the dash. The report was probably only two sentences. Long live Rencko and Bobbie Hill!--WhiskeyT
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02-14-2013, 16:13
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#32
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Originally Posted by Glock19Fan
Just becuase he is in the military doesnt make his actions any better. He broke the law intentionally, and I dont see in any way how this could be accidental.
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Shhh. They make you disappear to the cornfield when you say things like that. 
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02-14-2013, 16:14
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Originally Posted by CAcop
He probably thought that way too. Up until his first shower in the prison and realized he should have brought soap on a rope.
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Just so we're clear on where you stand:
1. Do you believe that citizens should have to go through the government and pay a tax to own or manufacture a full auto rifle?
2. Do you think the 4473 process should exist?
3. Do you think that someone should have to possess a federal license to sell guns as a business?
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02-14-2013, 16:51
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Originally Posted by certifiedfunds
Just so we're clear on where you stand:
1. Do you believe that citizens should have to go through the government and pay a tax to own or manufacture a full auto rifle?
2. Do you think the 4473 process should exist?
3. Do you think that someone should have to possess a federal license to sell guns as a business?
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What you think and what the long-standing law is are two totally exclusive things. I may think the speed limit should be 95, but that won't amount to a hill of beans to the cop writing the ticket.
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02-14-2013, 16:55
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Originally Posted by jknight8907
What you think and what the long-standing law is are two totally exclusive things. I may think the speed limit should be 95, but that won't amount to a hill of beans to the cop writing the ticket.
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Perhaps you'd like to answer the questions?
Will you feel the same if handguns are banned in the US?
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02-14-2013, 16:56
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Originally Posted by certifiedfunds
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Yeah, I figured you'd miss the point.... 
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02-14-2013, 16:57
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Originally Posted by certifiedfunds
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Again, because YOU, as a citizen feel thàt way, does not make it law.
Law states you cannot create an unregistered machine gun and transfer it. Your oppinion of the matter holds no sway.
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02-14-2013, 16:59
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Originally Posted by AK_Stick
Again, because YOU, as a citizen feel thàt way, does not make it law.
Law states you cannot create an unregistered machine gun and transfer it. Your oppinion of the matter holds no sway.
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The nerve of a citizen, huh?
Would you like to answer the 3 questions?
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02-14-2013, 16:59
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Originally Posted by jknight8907
Yeah, I figured you'd miss the point.... |
So you don't want to answer the questions?
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02-14-2013, 17:01
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Originally Posted by eb07
They fail to mention he was actively involved with neo-nazis and was outspoken about it on internet forums. Bottom line is he was the nail that stuck out, and the ATF hammered it. Pity is not found.
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Links to prove this?
Also, since when is associating with lowlifes legally actionable?
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02-14-2013, 17:01
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Which of you will be surrendering your guns if or when the law says you must?
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02-14-2013, 17:02
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Originally Posted by certifiedfunds
Disturbing to see so many here eager to attack someone who violated laws that shouldn't exist.
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"I don't think that law should exist"
That's what Charlie Manson said.
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In some peoples minds "What if?" is just as real as What Is.
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02-14-2013, 17:03
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Originally Posted by countrygun
"I don't think that law should exist"
That's what Charlie Manson said.
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Perhaps YOU would like to answer the questions?
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02-14-2013, 17:06
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Originally Posted by certifiedfunds
The nerve of a citizen, huh?
Would you like to answer the 3 questions?
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Nerve has nothing to do with it.
It comes down to the fact that oppinion, does not overrule law.
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02-14-2013, 17:06
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Originally Posted by certifiedfunds
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No need to. I'm living in the world as it is here, not the world I wish for. That he couldn't find even one person to deadlock the jury speaks powerfully.
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02-14-2013, 17:08
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Originally Posted by Sam Spade
No need to. I'm living in the world as it is here, not the world I wish for. That he couldn't find even one person to deadlock the jury speaks powerfully.
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Sam, I've asked 4 simple questions. In the time it took you to respond you could've just answered them.
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02-14-2013, 17:09
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Originally Posted by AK_Stick
Nerve has nothing to do with it.
It comes down to the fact that oppinion, does not overrule law.
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So if the 2A is repealed or legally nullified AKStick will surrender his guns. Got it.
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02-14-2013, 17:11
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This thread is very revealing
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02-14-2013, 17:12
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Originally Posted by certifiedfunds
So if the 2A is repealed or legally nullified AKStick will surrender his guns. Got it.
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Or I'll live with the consequences of not doing so.
But how I feel won't change that it's legal or illegal. A concept you evidently can't grasp.
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02-14-2013, 17:14
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Originally Posted by AK_Stick
Or I'll live with the consequences of not doing so.
But how I feel won't change that it's legal or illegal. A concept you evidently can't grasp.
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Oh I grasp it fine. I'm disturbed by the people here ready to back the government and criticize this guy.
BTW, your position sounds a bit hypocritical.
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