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Old 02-12-2013, 22:58   #26
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I may not agree with the President on policy, but I wouldn't turn down an invite from the President. Even if you don't respect the man, respect the office.


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Serious question and no I'm not making a comparison, but Hitler was properly, duly elected in Germany.

Would your sentiments apply to him as well? "Ignore the ovens, respect the office."

Right?
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Old 02-12-2013, 23:13   #27
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Serious question and no I'm not making a comparison, but Hitler was properly, duly elected in Germany.

Would your sentiments apply to him as well? "Ignore the ovens, respect the office."

Right?
Don't insult hitler by comparing him to obama.
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Old 02-12-2013, 23:41   #28
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Good for him.

It was a shame he had to accept that medal from that president in the first place. I'm sure he was gritting his teeth all the way. And Obama didn't exactly look like he was enjoying it when he presented the medal in the first place.
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Old 02-12-2013, 23:49   #29
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I may not agree with the President on policy, but I wouldn't turn down an invite from the President. Even if you don't respect the man, respect the office.


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Nothing disrespectful about turning down a request. He was given the choice, he chose. And wisely.
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Old 02-12-2013, 23:55   #30
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Good for him.


It pisses me off that obama tries to associate himself with a real hero like Clint Romesha, when in fact obama isn't fit to shine the boots of the lowest Army Private.
obama couldn't be a pimple on a privates ass.
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Old 02-12-2013, 23:57   #31
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Good for him.

It was a shame he had to accept that medal from that president in the first place. I'm sure he was gritting his teeth all the way. And Obama didn't exactly look like he was enjoying it when he presented the medal in the first place.
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Old 02-13-2013, 00:25   #32
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Old 02-13-2013, 00:32   #33
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It is too bad this person did not want the honor of being invited by the POTUS. It is his loss not Obama's.
Would you explain this statement?

We know, and he knew, it's a photo op for him to be seated with the first lady, and he chose not to be a part of the propaganda. How is that his loss?

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Old 02-13-2013, 01:33   #34
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Serious question and no I'm not making a comparison, but Hitler was properly, duly elected in Germany.
Hitler wasn't elected, he seized power.

An invitation is not a subpoena.
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Old 02-13-2013, 02:50   #35
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Would you explain this statement?

We know, and he knew, it's a photo op for him to be seated with the FL, and he chose not to be a part of the propaganda. How is that his loss?

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Old 02-13-2013, 03:15   #36
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I may not agree with the President on policy, but I wouldn't turn down an invite from the President. Even if you don't respect the man, respect the office.
...

Did he turn down the offer in a disrespectful way? In case you forget, one of those dudes has a MOH on his neck/chest. The only thing he is required to do now in life is to die peacefully, unfettered and unmolested by ceremony, politics /etc.


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It is too bad this person did not want the honor of being invited by the POTUS. It is his loss not Obama's.
He did not lose anything. If none of those folks Obama invited had shown up, or called in sick at the very last minute, it would have been a major embarrassment for Obama.
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Old 02-13-2013, 03:22   #37
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It is too bad this person did not want the honor of being invited by the POTUS. It is his loss not Obama's.
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Old 02-13-2013, 04:23   #38
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Yeah just allow him to use you because he got a bunch of idiots to vote for him based on feeling good about themselves
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Old 02-13-2013, 05:03   #39
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We really don't know the reason why he opted out except that he wanted to spend time with his comrades. I know that he somewhat reluctantly received the Medal Of Honor indicating that it was really a team effort that day of the battle. I just think he decided not to make any more of his deeds that day by attending the speech and opted to spend time with his friends instead. It may not have been a political or moral statement at all. He is quite a man.
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Old 02-13-2013, 05:25   #40
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it was a political hack move. Mr. Romesha did the right thing.
The article only says he chose to stay home with his wife, friends and family.

So where is there some courageous decision and standing by his principles, etc? Now he may not be a fan of the President, I don't know... but the article makes it sound like he simply had other plans that he preferred over being a guest at the address.

or am I missing something?

That said.. I don't think I could go either... and if asked about it, I'd make very clear why...

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We really don't know the reason why he opted out except that he wanted to spend time with his comrades. I know that he somewhat reluctantly received the Medal Of Honor indicating that it was really a team effort that day of the battle. I just think he decided not to make any more of his deeds that day by attending the speech and opted to spend time with his friends instead. It may not have been a political or moral statement at all. He is quite a man.
Ah... had I not forgot to hit send... I'd have been in before you..lol.
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Hitler wasn't elected, he seized power.

An invitation is not a subpoena.
Actually he did win the election. His party got the most votes. He then eliminated his opponents ability to oust him from office.

People like to forget he got the most votes. That omission allows them to think democracy can only bring good things.

Failure to remember than caused Gaza to go to Hamas.
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Smart Man.....only a fool would want to be part of that Dog & Pony Show. What a disgrace to the US. Just look at some of the people they zoomed in on.....Pawns with a capital P with the little p for president.

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I'm surprised his Chain of Command didn't make him go.

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I'm surprised his Chain of Command didn't make him go.
Few things:

1) A Medal of Honor winner is basically untouchable for life. The chain of command can make him do things within the normal day to day military stuff but can only suggest beyond that.

2) A photo op or a political type rally such as this cannot be made mandatory. It can be highly suggested and recommended but not mandated. What are they going to do, give him a bad eval? I don't think so.

3) Says he got out after receiving the award. The first handful of words in the article are, "Former Army Staff Sergeant Clint Romesha..." He has no chain of command.
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It is too bad this person did not want the honor of being invited by the POTUS. It is his loss not Obama's.
He already had received the highest honor possible so how is it a loss to sit through a boring speech with someone you don't know?

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Few things:

1) A Medal of Honor winner is basically untouchable for life. The chain of command can make him do things within the normal day to day military stuff but can only suggest beyond that.

2) A photo op or a political type rally such as this cannot be made mandatory. It can be highly suggested and recommended but not mandated. What are they going to do, give him a bad eval? I don't think so.

3) Says he got out after receiving the award. The first handful of words in the article are, "Former Army Staff Sergeant Clint Romesha..." He has no chain of command.
Thanks for the clarification. I didn't read the article. I didn't know he is no longer in the military.



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Probably just wanted to keep track of his son..

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It is too bad this person did not want the honor of being invited by the POTUS. It is his loss not Obama's.
He was invited and he is a true patriot
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Ah... had I not forgot to hit send... I'd have been in before you..lol.

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