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Old 02-12-2013, 21:56   #101
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I'm grateful they got him.

Thanks to all involved, particularly those who gave all, and to their families.
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Old 02-12-2013, 21:59   #102
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Legally speaking It doesn't really matter if the fire started because cops pumped CS canisters and flashbangs in the house, or if they doused it in gas and lit a match themselves.

He murdered at least 5 people. The cops had been in a sustained gunfight with him, he was reasonably believed to be in possession of a .50 cal rifle, and was a continuing threat.

Deadly force is deadly force. If its authorized, it doesn't matter if you use a hammer, a handgun, or a house fire.


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Old 02-12-2013, 22:07   #103
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Foxnews saying body pulled out of the cabin confirmed to be Dorner.

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Old 02-12-2013, 22:07   #104
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Prayers for the LE and victims, good riddance to that POS
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Old 02-12-2013, 22:07   #105
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Andrew Smith, Commander, LAPD:

"The cabin is too hot to search. Any reports that a body has been removed from the cabin are not true. Any reports that the body has been identified are NOT true. We will maintain our high-profile security detail for our officers until we are 100% that we have identified Christopher Dorner."

"Until Mr. Dorner is identified as deceased or is in handcuffs in the county jail, we will continue to treat things as if he is still out there."
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Old 02-12-2013, 22:09   #106
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Andrew Smith, Commander, LAPD:

"The cabin is too hot to search. Any reports that a body has been removed from the cabin are not true. Any reports that the body has been identified are NOT true. We will maintain our high-profile security detail for our officers until we are 100% that we have identified Christopher Dorner."

"Until Mr. Dorner is identified as deceased or is in handcuffs in the county jail, we will continue to treat things as if he is still out there."
Someone needs to consult Capt Janks.


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Old 02-12-2013, 22:12   #107
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Legally speaking It doesn't really matter if the fire started because cops pumped CS canisters and flashbangs in the house, or if they doused it in gas and lit a match themselves.

He murdered at least 5 people. The cops had been in a sustained gunfight with him, he was reasonably believed to be in possession of a .50 cal rifle, and was a continuing threat.

Deadly force is deadly force. If its authorized, it doesn't matter if you use a hammer, a handgun, or a house fire.


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Old 02-13-2013, 00:13   #108
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Prayers for victims & families

CBS, CNN & AP reporting that body removed from cabin is thought to be that of dorner. LA mayor tells telemundo "it's over" LAPD schedules news conference for 11 PM EST.

good riddance pos
And as reported by Top Shot 31, now they are reporting the body has not been removed or confirmed

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/12/us/lap...html?hpt=hp_t1
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Old 02-13-2013, 01:32   #109
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he has hostages...this will be drawn out.

he needs to be killed.

california does have have a death penalty, justice can only come from the barrel of a gun.
CA's death penalty is carried out over decades and you die of old age.
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Old 02-13-2013, 03:37   #110
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CNN reporting that some unidentified burnt BBQ found in burned out cabin.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/12...ted/?hpt=hp_t1

I say top it with BBQ sauce and let the animals take care of the trash.
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:45   #111
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Rip chris dorner- rot in pieces- he was the epitome of all the reasons to do away with set asides, preferences, and AA.
The world suddenly got a little better.
Maybe there is still a little justice left in the world.
My prayers to victims and wounded and families
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Old 02-13-2013, 07:11   #112
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Legally speaking It doesn't really matter if the fire started because cops pumped CS canisters and flashbangs in the house, or if they doused it in gas and lit a match themselves.

He murdered at least 5 people. The cops had been in a sustained gunfight with him, he was reasonably believed to be in possession of a .50 cal rifle, and was a continuing threat.

Deadly force is deadly force. If its authorized, it doesn't matter if you use a hammer, a handgun, or a house fire.
Exactly. **** him. His ass was bought and paid for.
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:31   #113
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Legally speaking It doesn't really matter if the fire started because cops pumped CS canisters and flashbangs in the house, or if they doused it in gas and lit a match themselves.

He murdered at least 5 people. The cops had been in a sustained gunfight with him, he was reasonably believed to be in possession of a .50 cal rifle, and was a continuing threat.

Deadly force is deadly force. If its authorized, it doesn't matter if you use a hammer, a handgun, or a house fire.
Although I think he is guilty and deserves to die after due process......

I find it interesting that you have already convicted him. And have no problems with the police executing him in a ball of fire.

So lets twist the situation, lets say he was Pro-gun, pro-republican, Tea party supporter and had decent evidence of wrong doing in the gov.....do you believe that it would be correct to execute him by burning this house? Do you believe the media would give fair and unbiased coverage?

Or are you saying that the US Gov is not able to control situations to send innocent people to jail?
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:41   #114
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:42   #115
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Although I think he is guilty and deserves to die after due process......

I find it interesting that you have already convicted him. And have no problems with the police executing him in a ball of fire.

So lets twist the situation, lets say he was Pro-gun, pro-republican, Tea party supporter and had decent evidence of wrong doing in the gov.....do you believe that it would be correct to execute him by burning this house? Do you believe the media would give fair and unbiased coverage?

Or are you saying that the US Gov is not able to control situations to send innocent people to jail?
Please tell me you're not serious. They were actively in a shootout with him, how much more justified does deadly force get?
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While I do take issue with the possibility of using a drone to neutralize a nonmilitary target, and especially without due process... In this running battle, he already wounded one, and killed yet another Officer trying to apprehend him.

I do not believe that he gets a time out if he gets back to home base, and hypothetical political beliefs, race, or whatever has nothing to do with it. Although I was not there, using CS/CN to make it very uncomfortable for him to maintain the standoff, is perfectly acceptable. Setting the cabin afire could have been an unintended consequence, or something Dorner facilitated knowing he would be caught.

Dorner, made a whole series of bad choices getting to that point, so I am not shedding a tear (pun intended) about it.
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Although I think he is guilty and deserves to die after due process......

Blaah, blaah, blaah. My tinfoil hat is too tight.
And so the "Wacoization" of Chris Dorner begins...

He was actively involved in a shootout. He had made his intention to not be taken alive publicly and abundantly clear. At this point the exact manner in which the fire started is unknown and-



You know what? Screw it. If you're looking for a conspiracy, you're going to find one and neither facts nor logic will persuade you otherwise. Go play in GNG,
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So lets twist the situation, lets say he was Pro-gun, pro-republican, Tea party supporter and had decent evidence of wrong doing in the gov.
You forgot the prior murders, prior attempted murder, the murder of one deputy at the scene, the attempted murder of another deputy at the scene, and the ongoing exchange, exchange of gunfire as qualifiers.
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Although I think he is guilty and deserves to die after due process......

I find it interesting that you have already convicted him. And have no problems with the police executing him in a ball of fire.

So lets twist the situation, lets say he was Pro-gun, pro-republican, Tea party supporter and had decent evidence of wrong doing in the gov.....do you believe that it would be correct to execute him by burning this house? Do you believe the media would give fair and unbiased coverage?

Or are you saying that the US Gov is not able to control situations to send innocent people to jail?


He was not executed in a ball of fire, he could have placed his weapons down and walked out.

Is that a difficult concept for you to understand.

You can twist the facts any way you want,an escape route was left for him to walk out, he chose not to.

He was involved in a prolonged shootout from inside that cabin firing a fully automatic weapon.

How would you have handled it, me Im launching CS/CN burners into that place to force him out, or he can stay and seal his own fate, barricaded gunman 101....
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