noticed cruciform flaking?

MSims · 02-10-2013, 18:47

I went to clean my glock today and only 150 rounds thru it i see on top of the cruciform alittle bubbling so i went to rub it to think its oil but the bubble flaked off... Like alittle shaving came off the cruciform... Any ideas? Never seen in any of my glocks... only seen on the rail sometimes...

spartanranger · 02-10-2013, 20:27

Yeah I had that problem too. Glock has played around with a couple different ways of coating/finishing the internal parts. One of the older ways (and we aren't talking about very long) was plating it. The quality of it is horrible though and on every single glock of mine that had that plating it came off. Now the new parts come in a gray finish that is easily polishable and wont flake since it is not plated. I would recommend going to the non-plated version, which is their current version. If you talk to glock cs they should send you a new one. I already replaced all of mine.

MSims · 02-10-2013, 20:41

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Originally Posted by spartanranger

Yeah I had that problem too. Glock has played around with a couple different ways of coating/finishing the internal parts. One of the older ways (and we aren't talking about very long) was plating it. The quality of it is horrible though and on every single glock of mine that had that plating it came off. Now the new parts come in a gray finish that is easily polishable and wont flake since it is not plated. I would recommend going to the non-plated version, which is their current version. If you talk to glock cs they should send you a new one. I already replaced all of mine.

Is it a problem to carry and shoot couple more thousand rounds? Or i have to replace?

WayneJessie · 02-11-2013, 07:02

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Originally Posted by msims

i went to clean my glock today and only 150 rounds thru it i see on top of the cruciform alittle bubbling so i went to rub it to think its oil but the bubble flaked off... Like alittle shaving came off the cruciform... Any ideas? Never seen in any of my glocks... Only seen on the rail sometimes...

wow...

lyodbraun · 02-11-2013, 09:29

put your slide back on and shoot it.. nothing Id worry to much about...

MrVvrroomm · 02-11-2013, 09:44

stop using Hoppe's #9

MSims · 02-11-2013, 10:51

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Originally Posted by MrVvrroomm

stop using Hoppe's #9

Never use hoppes in any of my Glocks and this has only 150 rounds shot since new actually just came from the range and shot it for the first time 150 rounds to go clean it when I discovered that...

And thats your best advice for a glock armorer?

SJ 40 · 02-11-2013, 13:11

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Originally Posted by lyodbraun

put your slide back on and shoot it.. nothing Id worry to much about...

This. SJ 40

MSims · 02-11-2013, 13:30

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Originally Posted by lyodbraun

put your slide back on and shoot it.. nothing Id worry to much about...

Ok will do... Was just curious if anybody else has that on there glocks...

***faawrenchbndr*** · 02-11-2013, 13:32

Never seen that part do it, would suggest a plating error.
You can leave it as is, lightly polish or replace the trigger bar assy.

MSims · 02-11-2013, 13:57

I guess that area has no effect on the functionality... I guess the striker rides on it to lock in the rear... I guess if the rear was flaking where it holds the striker and was changing the dimensions then it would possibly be an issue...

TheGlockTalker · 02-11-2013, 15:08

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Originally Posted by MrVvrroomm

stop using Hoppe's #9

Ok i gotta ask. Whay's wrong with Hoppes?
I've used it for years cleaning Glocks, 1911s, Sigs etc.
Never noticed any problems.

SJ 40 · 02-11-2013, 16:05

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Originally Posted by MSims

Ok will do... Was just curious if anybody else has that on there glocks...

I have a G 22 like that,I noticed it about three years ago and haven't thought it again. So I just pulled it out of the safe and took a look,can't even see where it had flaked off to begin with,not to worry. SJ 40

MSims · 02-11-2013, 16:08

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Originally Posted by SJ 40

I have a G 22 like that,I noticed it about three years ago and haven't thought it again. So I just pulled it out of the safe and took a look,can't even see where it had flaked off to begin with,not to worry. SJ 40

So yours was flaking like mine... How many rounds have you shot till it smooth out?

intenseneal · 02-11-2013, 16:47

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Originally Posted by MSims

I went to clean my glock today and only 150 rounds thru it i see on top of the cruciform alittle bubbling so i went to rub it to think its oil but the bubble flaked off... Like alittle shaving came off the cruciform... Any ideas? Never seen in any of my glocks... only seen on the rail sometimes...

Dude it looks like your ejector is dent pretty bad as well. I just had to replace mine after 20 years of service it broke.

MSims · 02-11-2013, 16:50

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Originally Posted by intenseneal

Dude it looks like your ejector is dent pretty bad as well. I just had to replace mine after 20 years of service it broke.

Um thats how a 9mm ejector looks like...

**AgentM79** · 02-11-2013, 17:29

DO NOT straighten the "bent" ejector. It's supposed to have a bend. I've seen flaking on Glock frame rails, trigger bars, and firing pin safety plungers. You'll also see flakes on your barrel for about 1000 rounds after a recoil spring assembly is replaced. On "original" Gen1 and Gen2 Glocks, frame rails were bare (surface-ground, actually) and had no coating. I think this also persisted sometime into Gen3, but I don't know at what S/N it changed. My GXX-prefix G17 never flaked, and it had a goodly number of rounds through it.

The "Hoppes" thing, I believe, was pretty-much solved a long time ago. It would damage some nickel-plated surfaces by attacking the copper layer underneath. There are horror stories about revolver finishes getting ruined, but I can't vouch from first-hand experience. In any event, they changed the formula. Hoppes is a good bore solvent - probably one of the best. But, it's not something I would use anywhere else on a Glock.

WT · 02-11-2013, 18:21

IN THE BEGINNING .....

Glock internals had a black coating. It tended to flake off, allowed rusting, and various malfunctions.

On the 2nd day, after The Great Glock Recall, they coated the parts with nickel. Well, that sort of didn't work well either.

On the 3rd day, they coated the nickel plated parts with Teflon. That sort of worked, but still flaked off.

Nowadays, who the heck knows what they do with the parts.

My suggestion, clean it with Mother's Chrome Polish and reinstall it.

SJ 40 · 02-11-2013, 18:48

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Originally Posted by MSims

So yours was flaking like mine... How many rounds have you shot till it smooth out?

Currently that G 22 has just over 8000 rounds through it. When I noticed it flaking and also on the sides of the trigger bar the gun had close to 1600 rounds out of it.
I also never use a ammonia based cleaner,some times with the nickel plating process it may flake more easily . It like most finishing procedures is all in the preparation. SJ 40

intenseneal · 02-11-2013, 18:54

I just had mine replaced and it is straight, Glock brand trigger housing. Maybe it is like that on some Glocks.

WayneJessie · 02-11-2013, 19:31

Well, I own a Glock so I guess I can say it: Regardless of who's name is on the slide, that's a pretty poor quality plating job to be fluffing off that soon. Even if it's "cosmetic" it still indicates a lack of build quality at least in the plating of certain components. Some estimate that it only costs about $50 to build a polymer handgun. Whether that's true or not I don't know. I suspect it's pretty close considering every Tom,Dick, and Harry is jumping into the polymer market. I know I must tread lightly here but Glock does not sit alone on a high mountain top away from all those that would cut a corner on quality here and there. If you really love your Glocks you'll let Glock Inc. know when you think they are dropping the ball somewhere. That's how we all get better at whatever it is that we do. Honest criticism is way better than misguided flattery. If it were my gun I would send Glock an e-mail and tell them it sucks and other gun makers plating is holding up quite well. Now I said it and I guess I am the red-headed stepchild now.

Inebriated · 02-11-2013, 19:35

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Originally Posted by TheGlockTalker

Ok i gotta ask. Whay's wrong with Hoppes?
I've used it for years cleaning Glocks, 1911s, Sigs etc.
Never noticed any problems.

Nothing, really. Some polymer parts and certain finishes have problems with Hoppe's. I personally used it and CLP for YEARS, before switching to Frog Lube. I still use it once in a while, but it's rare.

tonyparson · 02-11-2013, 19:49

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Originally Posted by intenseneal

I just had mine replaced and it is straight, Glock brand trigger housing. Maybe it is like that on some Glocks.

Is your Glock a 9mm?

SJ 40 · 02-11-2013, 20:57

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Originally Posted by intenseneal

I just had mine replaced and it is straight, Glock brand trigger housing. Maybe it is like that on some Glocks.

Not all caliber Glock extractors are straight and of course the reverse is also true,depends on caliber. SJ 40

NEOH212 · 02-11-2013, 21:23

All Glocks will start to di it sooner or later. It's not going to hurt anything. If your that worried about it replace it.

Or.........

Dump the Glock for a HK or Sig.