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02-12-2013, 15:37
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If I still owned a .380ACP I'd likely carry a heavy-for-caliber hardcast round. (unit1069)
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Originally Posted by SCmasterblaster
That's right - good for max penetration.
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I went round and round with ammo when I owned a .380ACP and I finally became convinced that anything below 9mm/.38Spl needs to ensure penetration above all else, especially during 7-8 months of the year when an attacker likely wears layers of clothing.
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02-12-2013, 18:28
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I was impressed with a test vid and now I have Hornady Critical Defense in my LCP.
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02-12-2013, 18:43
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Right now speer gold dots. Might change after this post.
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02-13-2013, 19:04
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Originally Posted by Ljutic
You might be surprised by the expansion of some of the 380s. I know I was when I started testing them. Due to mass and velocity, the largest expanding rounds suffered from lesser penetration.

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Why no penetration numbers on the Gold Dots and The Win load below the GD's?
I'm liking the numbers on those old school Fed Hydra Shoks.
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02-13-2013, 20:29
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Originally Posted by dougader
Why no penetration numbers on the Gold Dots and The Win load below the GD's?
I'm liking the numbers on those old school Fed Hydra Shoks.
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Those blocks calibrated too soft, so I scrapped the penetration depths rather than publish bad information.
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02-13-2013, 20:42
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Buffalo Bore 100 gr. hardcast @1150 fps
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02-13-2013, 23:48
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When I decided to pick up a LCP for those times when I couldn't conceal one of my J-frames, I looked around to see what ammo I could find at my usual sources. I tried some Winchester RA380T 95gr (T-Series), Speer 90gr GDHP and Remington 102gr Golden Sabre.
All fed and functioned just fine in my LCP. The Golden Sabre exhibited some erratic ejection patterns compared to the other 2 loads, though.
I know another instructor that settled on Hornady (because LAPD authorizes it, and he carries a Bodyguard 380), after he fired enough to confirm function in his BG 380. If the Hornady load was available in quantity and discounted pricing, I'd try it sometime.
I settled on the Win T-Series & Speer GD, as I can get those loads in quantity, and they both work fine in my LCP. (Enough for training, practice & carry, although I still have access to Win FMJ, as well.)
Yes, the potential for less penetration in situations involving intervening limbs and cross torso/shoulder capsule situations is always in the back of my mind, but there's always some degree of compromise to consider in dedicated defensive handguns.
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02-14-2013, 14:42
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Originally Posted by unit1069
I went round and round with ammo when I owned a .380ACP and I finally became convinced that anything below 9mm/.38Spl needs to ensure penetration above all else, especially during 7-8 months of the year when an attacker likely wears layers of clothing.
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GOOD thinking!
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02-14-2013, 14:52
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02-14-2013, 15:13
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Originally Posted by 3rdgen40
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Interesting link to a +p .380 loading using a 100gr hard-cast flatnose. Talk about penetration!
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02-16-2013, 06:10
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Originally Posted by SCmasterblaster
Interesting link to a +p .380 loading using a 100gr hard-cast flatnose. Talk about penetration!
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I don't have a .380 but if I did that would be my carry load.
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02-18-2013, 08:39
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Originally Posted by 3rdgen40
I don't have a .380 but if I did that would be my carry load.
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Same here. Sometimes I wonder if my 115gr 9mm +p+ bullet will penetrate enough.
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02-18-2013, 16:58
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Originally Posted by WEATHERBY460
I am looking for recommendations for 380 ammo for the little pocket guns.....thanks
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Ok,
Dump the .380 and get at least a small 9x19mm.
Then come back and talk ammo suggestions.
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02-18-2013, 19:09
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Originally Posted by NEOH212
Ok,
Dump the .380 and get at least a small 9x19mm.
Then come back and talk ammo suggestions.

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Come on now - he is asking for our good advice about .380 ammo. It could be the only gun that he can have now.
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