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Old 02-10-2013, 17:19   #1
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NYS CCW, visiting NJ carry question

I live in New York State and have a NYS concealed carry permit, but also visit NJ quite a bit because I'm divorced and my kids live there. I also work frequently on projects in the NYC metro area. Thus I also keep a secondary residence (an apartment) there for overnight stays during the week to accommodate an easier commute to work and kids.

Up till now, I don't take the handgun to NJ. However, I called a shooting range in NJ and they said that as long as I had a permit to carry for NYS, I could use the range in NJ. It would be handy to be able to get some additional practice in when in NJ.

Obviously I can't CCW in NJ (it's almost impossible to get one). The question is am I legal to have the gun at the apartment in NJ for the period of time when visiting there? I also know that when traveling to the shooting range, the gun must be unloaded, not accessible, separated from ammo, etc. From what I can tell it appears that I'd only be legal if literally traveling uninterrupted 'through' NJ or from or to a shooting match/event in NJ.

Thanks - I've been lurking here for a while and think it's a great forum.
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Old 02-10-2013, 17:37   #2
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This is a tricky situation. I don't have the whole answer so ill refrain from stating it here. If you want to get the correct answers go to njgunforums.com and ask this question. Lots of good people over there with lots of NJ gun law info.

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Old 02-10-2013, 18:05   #3
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Thanks for the kind words on njgf.... as the guy who started it.... appreciate it.

In short... the permits in nj are to purchase. However travel must be direct from 4ange to home to ffl... etc.

Post it on there, you will get a more complete answer. Hard to type on phone.

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Old 02-10-2013, 18:41   #4
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I live in New York State and have a NYS concealed carry permit, but also visit NJ quite a bit because I'm divorced and my kids live there. I also work frequently on projects in the NYC metro area. Thus I also keep a secondary residence (an apartment) there for overnight stays during the week to accommodate an easier commute to work and kids.

Up till now, I don't take the handgun to NJ. However, I called a shooting range in NJ and they said that as long as I had a permit to carry for NYS, I could use the range in NJ. It would be handy to be able to get some additional practice in when in NJ.

Obviously I can't CCW in NJ (it's almost impossible to get one). The question is am I legal to have the gun at the apartment in NJ for the period of time when visiting there? I also know that when traveling to the shooting range, the gun must be unloaded, not accessible, separated from ammo, etc. From what I can tell it appears that I'd only be legal if literally traveling uninterrupted 'through' NJ or from or to a shooting match/event in NJ.

Thanks - I've been lurking here for a while and think it's a great forum.
You live is New York and you have a NY CCW, which is NOT VALID in New Jersey.

IMHO, do not chance taking your gun into New Jersey. If caught, you may be jailed, gun seized by Police and you will lose your NY permit.

For legal gun owners, New Jersey is considered to be a foreign country.
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Old 02-10-2013, 18:51   #5
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Absolutely NOT. If you are caught in NJ you will go to jail and your vehicle and gun will be forfeited. I used to live in Philly so I am very familiar with NJ.

And please people - stop posting that "federal law" protects you when traveling through any state. It doesn't. Take a semester of law and you will see why.

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Old 02-10-2013, 18:53   #6
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You live is New York and you have a NY CCW, which is NOT VALID in New Jersey.

IMHO, do not chance taking your gun into New Jersey. If caught, you may be jailed, gun seized by Police and you will lose your NY permit.

For legal gun owners, New Jersey is considered to be a foreign country.
That's kind of what I was thinking and thus why I don't take it in from NYS.

Thanks diamondd2 for the other advice on NJ Gun Forum...I also posted this question over there.

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Old 02-10-2013, 19:00   #7
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This is a perfect example of NJ's gun laws:

N.J. Man Serving 7 Years for Guns He Legally Owned
http://abcnews.go.com/US/jersey-man-...ry?id=12287484


The Governor had to commute his sentence but he cannot ever own a firearm again.
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rt, you may be able to apply for a nj firearms id card as you have a residence in NJ. The card will allow you to own, possess and transport in NJ to and from residence and range. Handguns would have to be registered in NJ, as I guess they are in NY.

I would check with the NJ state troopers' firearm div & the NJ attorney general's office to be certain. Sorry bros, but NJ is a beatch of a place to be a gun owner.
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Old 02-10-2013, 19:26   #9
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Aren't hollow-points also illegal in NJ? I'm pretty sure they are. Besides the 'illegal' firearm charge, the added bonus would be what? Some type of banned or exotic ammo? Either way. Still almost as bad or worse than NY.
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Old 02-10-2013, 21:39   #10
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rt, you may be able to apply for a nj firearms id card as you have a residence in NJ. The card will allow you to own, possess and transport in NJ to and from residence and range. Handguns would have to be registered in NJ, as I guess they are in NY.

I would check with the NJ state troopers' firearm div & the NJ attorney general's office to be certain. Sorry bros, but NJ is a beatch of a place to be a gun owner.
False. The NJ firearms purchaser's ID card is used JUST for purchases - as the name implies. You do not need the ID card to possess or transport in NJ, as long as you are legal to do so (no felonies, mental health problems, etc.), dont forget about the 15 round limit for handguns/rifles and 5 round limit for shotguns.... transportation is locked in trunk with ammo separated.

"registration" is only sales record

example: you move into NJ with your legal guns from another state, registration is voluntary (lol....) and you only need the NJ purchaser's card to buy more firearms or ammo

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Old 02-10-2013, 21:42   #11
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Aren't hollow-points also illegal in NJ? I'm pretty sure they are. Besides the 'illegal' firearm charge, the added bonus would be what? Some type of banned or exotic ammo? Either way. Still almost as bad or worse than NY.
There isnt a law banning hollowpoints for lawful use at a range or to keep at your home - or transport from place of purchase to your home

However, if you commit a crime with hollow points, you get an extra charge tacked on
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Old 02-11-2013, 08:10   #12
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Thanks for all your input everyone. This has been very helpful.
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Old 02-16-2013, 14:47   #13
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example: you move into NJ with your legal guns from another state, registration is voluntary (lol....) and you only need the NJ purchaser's card to buy more firearms or ammo
False

You have to get finger printed, fill out paper work pay fees, and wait like 4-6 months for PERMIT to purchase handgun. Then there is another wait for FBI check(takes few days)after you go to dealer to purchase said handgun with permit that took 6 months to get and you were already checked by state and FBI!
The NJ card which has a finger print on it, is good for long guns and ammo.
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