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Old 02-10-2013, 21:29   #41
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On every thread that mentions the snappiness of the .40, some macho man always comes along telling everyone to "man up" and stop being a wimp.

We don't all measure our manhood by the caliber we shoot.
Is this in the wimp playbook under "how to respond to a challenge"?

LOL. Just kidding, don't get all defensive on me.
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Old 02-11-2013, 07:16   #42
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What a bunch of wimps. Get real. Some of you are acting like the 40 S&W is going to rip your hand and arm off each time you shoot it.

In a Glock 22 frame, using the empty weight of 1.43 lb (0.65kg), the following was obtained:

9 mm Luger: Recoil Impulse of 0.78 ms; Recoil Velocity of 17.55 ft/s (5.3 m/s); Recoil Energy of 6.84 ft·lbf (9.3 J)

.357 SIG: Recoil Impulse of 1.06 ms; Recoil velocity of 23.78 ft/s (7.2 m/s); Recoil Energy of 12.56 ft·lbf (17.0 J)

.40 S&W: Recoil impulse of 0.88 ms; Recoil velocity of 19.73 ft/s (6.0 m/s); Recoil Energy of 8.64 ft·lbf (11.7 J)

In a Smith and Wesson .44 Magnum with 7.5-inch barrel, with an empty weight of 3.125 lb (1.417 kg), the following was obtained: .

44 Remington Magnum: Recoil impulse of 1.91 ms; Recoil velocity of 19.69 ft/s (6.0 m/s); Recoil Energy of 18.81 ft·lbf (25.5 J)

In a Smith and Wesson 460 7.5-inch barrel, with an empty weight of 3.5 lb (1.6 kg), the following was obtained:

.460 S&W Magnum: Recoil Impulse of 3.14 ms; Recoil Velocity of 28.91 ft/s (8.8 m/s); Recoil Energy of 45.43 ft·lbf (61.6 J)

In a Smith and Wesson 500 4.5-inch barrel, with an empty weight of 3.5 lb (1.6 kg), the following was obtained:

.500 S&W Magnum: Recoil Impulse of 3.76 ms; Recoil Velocity of 34.63 ft/s (10.6 m/s); Recoil Energy of 65.17 ft·lbf (88.4 J)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recoil

Learn proper technique and quit letting yourselves be influenced by internet forum BS and spin, generated by people, on the most part, that do not know their anus from a hole in the ground and man up.

I prefer 40 S&W in small carry guns, and I shoot them and survive to tell the tale.

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You left out 45 ACP and Gap,lol
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Old 02-11-2013, 08:02   #43
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Is this in the wimp playbook under "how to respond to a challenge"?

LOL. Just kidding, don't get all defensive on me.
OK, you got me. I've got "firepower envy". I'm from Jersey and you're from Texas. I can't compete. And it's getting worse. One of the new "gun control" bills introduced in the NJ legislature restricts mag capacity to 5 rounds. FIVE ROUNDS! Thus effectively outlawing almost all firearms. I really hope Christie doesn't sign it, or I may be packing my bags and moving to Texas - home of firepower and good beef. You guys have good steaks down there, right? Love me a good steak.

What was this thread about again?
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Old 02-11-2013, 08:11   #44
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I like shooting 10mm. I don't like shooting 40 for the above reasons stated. I just don't find a good recreational round. If I were a cop, I would probably be fine carrying a 40, but I am not, so I don't.
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Old 02-11-2013, 08:36   #45
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OK, you got me. I've got "firepower envy". I'm from Jersey and you're from Texas. I can't compete. And it's getting worse. One of the new "gun control" bills introduced in the NJ legislature restricts mag capacity to 5 rounds. FIVE ROUNDS! Thus effectively outlawing almost all firearms. I really hope Christie doesn't sign it, or I may be packing my bags and moving to Texas - home of firepower and good beef. You guys have good steaks down there, right? Love me a good steak.

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OMG, NJ getting worse and worse!Thank God, I moved out of there in 97!
5 rds would pretty much kill everything even revolvers, as they hold 6-7 rds. Ridiculous, what they have to up NY?
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:13   #46
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Naw but my 35 is only a game gun and I load 40 short and weak minor bunny fart loads.
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Old 02-11-2013, 13:59   #47
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You left out 45 ACP and Gap,lol

Those calibers were not listed in the article that I cited.
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Old 02-11-2013, 14:07   #48
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Another ".40 is too snappy for me" thread. Yay.


I don't always shoot .40, but when I do, it's to shoot something with lighter recoil than my actual carry piece. Stay manly my friends.
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Old 02-11-2013, 14:30   #49
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Does .40 cause flinching more than other calibers?
Absolutely! It does. Just the anticipation of the gun snapping back at my wrist causes me to flinch downward to compensate.

Oh wait,...D'oh!
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Old 02-11-2013, 16:09   #50
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Another ".40 is too snappy for me" thread. Yay.


I don't always shoot .40, but when I do, it's to shoot something with lighter recoil than my actual carry piece. Stay manly my friends.
No thanks i will take the "unmanly .45 ACP" as I like the way it recoils better and I can shoot more accurately and quickly with it
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Old 02-11-2013, 16:26   #51
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Another ".40 is too snappy for me" thread. Yay.

Odd -- That might be what you read, but that's not what I wrote.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:47   #52
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Does .40 cause flinching more than other calibers

What "other" calibers?
10mm, 44 mag, 454?
Flinch or not, draw and split times. Try it with your timer.
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:12   #53
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It amazes me how many grown men complain about the recoil of Glock .40's when thousands of female LEO's are issued and qualify yearly with them.

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Old 02-12-2013, 06:04   #54
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.40 " Snappy"..LOL people..
.practice on a short barreled .44....you will get over " Snappy" real quick.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:06   #55
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I find a snub nosed .38 is as "snappy" as my G-27...plus I have more rounds and more knock down power. Not an issue. Practice practice practice...but of course you could always go to a .22 short , 6 inch barrel revolver...
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Old 02-12-2013, 09:32   #56
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9 mm Luger: Recoil Impulse of 0.78 ms; Recoil Velocity of 17.55 ft/s (5.3 m/s); Recoil Energy of 6.84 ft·lbf (9.3 J)

.40 S&W: Recoil impulse of 0.88 ms; Recoil velocity of 19.73 ft/s (6.0 m/s); Recoil Energy of 8.64 ft·lbf (11.7 J)
Good info. Thanks... It would be interesting to see the graphical data though, so I can see the peak values. Clearly the recoil impulse is almost 15% larger when compare the .40S&W to the 9mm. Coupled with the higher muzzle rise, the re-acquisition time is likely in the >20% range longer for the .40. That is the main reason I don't prefer the .40. The recoil is manageable with both calibers given adequate practice. And Sig229 recoil characteristics are much better than G23 IMO.
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:19   #57
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It amazes me how many grown men complain about the recoil of Glock .40's when thousands of female LEO's are issued and qualify yearly with them.

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There is something about the recoil impulse that I hate in my old G22. I would rather shoot my 3" 629 or my friends Desert Eagle .50 AE than a G22.
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Old 02-12-2013, 19:10   #58
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If you wussies are scared of the .40 cal get some pepper spray,lol.
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"Scared of the .40", "too much recoil", "cant handle the snapiness" -- I asked if the snapiness induced flinching. I then went on to say that I've never minded the .40, but am wondering if its characteristics are causing me more harm than good, and suggested it may be due to my not being able to shoot as much as other folks.

Have any of you read my post, or did you simply assume it was yet another guy complaining about the .40?
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"Scared of the .40", "too much recoil", "cant handle the snapiness" -- I asked if the snapiness induced flinching. I then went on to say that I've never minded the .40, but am wondering if its characteristics are causing me more harm than good, and suggested it may be due to my not being able to shoot as much as other folks.

Have any of you read my post, or did you simply assume it was yet another guy complaining about the .40?
Not referring to you, just the whiners.

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