Texas, the next California?

ked · 02-10-2013, 21:48

with the Hispanic influence in Tx, could it go the way CA did? if i recall, CA used to be a red state back in the 1980s.

thought?

ked
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after about 35 replies, i think i have my answer. seems to me that Tx better watch out because the trend is toward liberalism. personally, i believe the Dems will work behind the scene to bring down any conservative stronghold. i also believe the Reps should work to bring down any liberal stronghold. my concern is that the Reps are a bunch of wimps that are mostly RINOs and should be thrown out of the party. there are a few of Reps that can stay, IF they will hold true to OUR conservative values. thanks for the replies.

ked

SGT HATRED · 02-10-2013, 21:51

I believe it is inevitable. And with their birth rate, eventually every state in the union...

AK_Stick · 02-10-2013, 21:52

Probably not. Would take a massive influx to turn the tide, and in all likelihood texas would be able to fend off most of it.

tous · 02-10-2013, 21:53

No.
Unlike California, Texas doesn't have the seasonal agricultural jobs the illegals seek. Plus, Texas doesn't feature the liberal welfare system of California.

Californian is over-run by illegals because of the socialist policies of the state government, not the other way around.

*ASH* · 02-10-2013, 21:56

i can see it happening , white are the minority now , just wait for years and years

TSAX · 02-10-2013, 21:58

Is there a news article or stat that is giving info that this will happen or is this a debate for some class or just something that you were thinking.

ked · 02-10-2013, 22:03

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Originally Posted by AK_Stick

Probably not. Would take a massive influx to turn the tide, and in all likelihood texas would be able to fend off most of it.

would not a massive influx of Hispanics, with a high birth rate, not allow liberals to be voted into office. especially with amnesty and about 10-15 years of time.

also, please explain how Tx would be able to fend off most of it.

ked

***F14Scott*** · 02-10-2013, 22:03

The Hispanic people I've met here in Texas work like crazy. They seem to be the muscle of every industry I can think of. I think they are part of why this state is so great.

MotoGlock · 02-10-2013, 22:07

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Originally Posted by F14Scott

The Hispanic people I've met here in Texas work like crazy. They seem to be the muscle of every industry I can think of. I think they are part of why this state is so great.

LOL

thanks for the laugh

Fox · 02-10-2013, 22:12

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Originally Posted by ked

would not a massive influx of Hispanics, with a high birth rate, not allow liberals to be voted into office. especially with amnesty and about 10-15 years of time.

also, please explain how Tx would be able to fend off most of it.

ked

It would require a blanket amnesty for that to happen, even then I think most of the ones seeking welfare benefits will go to other states.

ked · 02-10-2013, 22:13

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Originally Posted by TSAX

Is there a news article or stat that is giving info that this will happen or is this a debate for some class or just something that you were thinking.

just sitting here thing about it.

ked

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Originally Posted by F14Scott

The Hispanic people I've met here in Texas work like crazy. They seem to be the muscle of every industry I can think of. I think they are part of why this state is so great.

i agree with the hard working ethics of the Hispanic people. i just worry that we aren't going to get the lions share of the Hispanic voters on our side. and i also believe that future generations of Hispanic (and American) people will have less of an "old school work ethic". and thereby, making them more susceptable to voting with the Dems.

ked

Fox · 02-10-2013, 22:15

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Originally Posted by F14Scott

The Hispanic people I've met here in Texas work like crazy. They seem to be the muscle of every industry I can think of. I think they are part of why this state is so great.

I think TX is like that because they have more jobs than welfare. So they attract more of the workers than the moochers.

AK_Stick · 02-10-2013, 22:21

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Originally Posted by ked

would not a massive influx of Hispanics, with a high birth rate, not allow liberals to be voted into office. especially with amnesty and about 10-15 years of time.

also, please explain how Tx would be able to fend off most of it.

ked

It has to do with what the jobs are, and where they are.

Non metropolis locations are not a good breeding ground for liberal bastions.

ked · 02-10-2013, 22:22

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Originally Posted by Fox

It would require a blanket amnesty for that to happen, even then I think most of the ones seeking welfare benefits will go to other states.

blanket amnesty? well that could never happen.

as for going to other states: i would expect THIS administration to devise ways to encourage illegal immigration to Tx for the express purpose of pulling down the conservative stronghold.

ked

ked · 02-10-2013, 22:24

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Originally Posted by AK_Stick

It has to do with what the jobs are, and where they are.

Non metropolis locations are not a good breeding ground for liberal bastions.

agreed, but IL is very non-metropolis also. but with Chicago, it is liberally controlled.

ked

Triple7 · 02-10-2013, 22:28

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Originally Posted by F14Scott

The Hispanic people I've met here in Texas work like crazy. They seem to be the muscle of every industry I can think of. I think they are part of why this state is so great.

I tend to agree with this. Why do people think the price of houses in Texas are so cheap.

fgutie35 · 02-10-2013, 22:56

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Originally Posted by ked

with the Hispanic influence in Tx, could it go the way CA did? if i recall, CA used to be a red state back in the 1980s.

thought?

ked

You will need to study Texas history and culture to understand that your logic does not apply to Texas. The Hispanic mix you see here, is made up of Native Hispanic Texans and hard-core conservative Catholic immigrants from central And southwest Mexico. Those two types of hispanics, have been passing their culture thru generations. They are nothing like the multicountry immigrants that flock to California who try to assimilate, but only to adopt the worse of both their own culture and american culture. The result, LA.

countsk · 02-10-2013, 22:57

I first moved to Texas in the 1980s. Austin has always been left of left since the induction of the hippies in the 60s. Since then I've seen it spread as far north to Georgetown. Cancer has a way of eating away at the host until you either stop it or it kills the host. There is no middle ground.

CAcop · 02-10-2013, 23:13

It's not the Hispanics it's the liberals. With the high cost of living middle class people are leaving for other states. Eventually enough people from CA will turn TX blue. Democrats only have to shave 8 points off the last election for it to go blue. Check out the voting history of CA. It was considered a swing state in 1992. There were some that claimed it was in 1996 but that was pretty thin claim. Since 2000 we have been safe Democrat.

Texas does not have as long as it thinks it does. 30 years at most and it goes blue. I am middle aged and I will likely see it in my life.

ked · 02-10-2013, 23:34

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Originally Posted by fgutie35

You will need to study Texas history and culture to understand that your logic does not apply to Texas. The Hispanic mix you see here, is made up of Native Hispanic Texans and hard-core conservative Catholic immigrants from central And southwest Mexico. Those two types of hispanics, have been passing their culture thru generations. They are nothing like the multicountry immigrants that flock to California who try to assimilate, but only to adopt the worse of both their own culture and american culture. The result, LA.

i hope you are right. i don't have a problem with Hispanics. i have a problem with the importing of new democratic voters from foreign countries.

ked

ked · 02-10-2013, 23:42

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Originally Posted by countsk

I first moved to Texas in the 1980s. Austin has always been left of left since the induction of the hippies in the 60s. Since then I've seen it spread as far north to Georgetown. Cancer has a way of eating away at the host until you either stop it or it kills the host. There is no middle ground.

that is my concern.

ked

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Originally Posted by CAcop

It's not the Hispanics it's the liberals. With the high cost of living middle class people are leaving for other states. Eventually enough people from CA will turn TX blue. Democrats only have to shave 8 points off the last election for it to go blue. Check out the voting history of CA. It was considered a swing state in 1992. There were some that claimed it was in 1996 but that was pretty thin claim. Since 2000 we have been safe Democrat.

Texas does not have as long as it thinks it does. 30 years at most and it goes blue. I am middle aged and I will likely see it in my life.

i agree. it is the liberals i have a problem with. i am sure that CA didn't look like it would turn blue either. i think it is a big mistake to think that just because it is Tx, that it couldn't turn blue. as i said before, i believe that this administration will try to work behind the scenes to encourage liberal migration to Tx.

ked

fgutie35 · 02-11-2013, 08:12

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Originally Posted by CAcop

It's not the Hispanics it's the liberals. With the high cost of living middle class people are leaving for other states. Eventually enough people from CA will turn TX blue. Democrats only have to shave 8 points off the last election for it to go blue. Check out the voting history of CA. It was considered a swing state in 1992. There were some that claimed it was in 1996 but that was pretty thin claim. Since 2000 we have been safe Democrat.

Texas does not have as long as it thinks it does. 30 years at most and it goes blue. I am middle aged and I will likely see it in my life.

You are correct. liberals from other failing liberal states are finding Austin appealing to move in and start to impose the same ideas that made their state fail in the first place. Is a cancer that can only be contain, but not eliminate.

fnfalman · 02-11-2013, 08:15

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Originally Posted by ked

with the Hispanic influence in Tx, could it go the way CA did? if i recall, CA used to be a red state back in the 1980s.

thought?

ked

I don't know if you had realized that Tejas have always had "Hispanic" influence.

Also, if the whole state of Texas population were to let a handful of imports change their laws and cultures, then they got what's comin'.

gwalchmai · 02-11-2013, 08:27

Irregardless of the work ethic of first-generation immigrants, 10 or 12 years of political indoctrination in identity politics and victim studies will convert later generations into proper Dimocrats.

Z71bill · 02-11-2013, 09:01

If you are in the country illegally - then you don't qualify for all welfare programs.

The hard working illegal immigrant is true -- but the reason is (in part) because the choice is work or starve.

Give them all complete access to a free ride - so the choice is

Welfare or work a low skill - low wage - back breaking job - and I wonder what will happen to the work ethic.

Some studies have already been done - Hispanics - when given the same shot at welfare VS work choose welfare at the same rate as any group.