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Old 02-08-2013, 12:41   #1
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CA police chief "Gun is not defensive weapon"

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"A gun is an offensive weapon used to intimidate and to show power. Police officers do not carry a gun a defensive weapon to defend themselves."



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Old 02-08-2013, 13:00   #2
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Emoryville is a joke. All it has is an Ikea and it is the east end of tha Bay Bridge. His department can fit in two patrol cars.
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Old 02-08-2013, 13:01   #3
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There's a chief not in touch with reality.
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Old 02-08-2013, 13:03   #4
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He is in CA need we say more.
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Old 02-08-2013, 13:09   #5
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He is in CA need we say more.
What he said.
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Old 02-08-2013, 13:10   #6
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"A gun is an offensive weapon used to intimidate and to show power. Police officers do not carry a gun a defensive weapon to defend themselves."



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Old 02-08-2013, 13:15   #7
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I almost signed on with Emeryville PD, passed the written and physical. Did a ride along that showed me their patrol area was a Denny's, Ikea, card club and boat house. The cops at the patrol level were stand up guys but the admin side . Got my letter to complete the background. Decided moving out the area and finishing my degree was a better choice. Glad I dont work for that idiot.





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Old 02-08-2013, 13:17   #8
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Old 02-08-2013, 13:20   #9
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The press seeks out those that best fits into their agenda. This guy is dancing to the tune played by the press.

Now, considering that defensive tools can be used offensively, his argument will find a willing audience.

The chief just needs a better understanding of conflict.
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Old 02-08-2013, 13:41   #10
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So what is he saying, that police officers have guns to show power and dominance over civilians?
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Old 02-08-2013, 13:42   #11
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Of course a gun is defensive ...

... against people who use a gun to intimidate and show power ....

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Old 02-08-2013, 13:55   #12
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As a guy who deals with police liability, I'd be a little worried about a chief who thinks his officers carry "an offensive weapon used to intimidate and to show power."

That guy is &^%$#@! nuts.
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Old 02-08-2013, 14:34   #13
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This police chief is telling you exactly why he carries a gun. He carries to intimidate citizens and he likes the feeling of power he gets from carrying it. I liked the look of the mature thin woman behind him. Her look shows she's thinking WTF is he talking about. I don't think she agrees with what he is saying.
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Old 02-08-2013, 15:18   #14
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Emeryville, Ca. sits between Oakland and Berkeley - contrasting influences.

Richmond, Ca., well, some people tell me it has changed positively since I was there 30 years ago. Others say it is still the same hell-hole.
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As a guy who deals with police liability, I'd be a little worried about a chief who thinks his officers carry "an offensive weapon used to intimidate and to show power."

That guy is &^%$#@! nuts.
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This police chief is telling you exactly why he carries a gun. He carries to intimidate citizens and he likes the feeling of power he gets from carrying it.
Yep...not good.
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Old 02-08-2013, 15:22   #16
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As a guy who deals with police liability, I'd be a little worried about a chief who thinks his officers carry "an offensive weapon used to intimidate and to show power."

That guy is &^%$#@! nuts.
They grow a lot of nuts and fruits in California.

It's "The land of sun-baked people and half-baked ideas"
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Old 02-08-2013, 15:25   #17
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Man...That is one scary police chief, right there...

...And some left-leaning people think that only "professionals" like him should have firearms?

...Which also brings to mind that "professional" BATF agent and his Glock...


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Old 02-08-2013, 15:28   #18
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Man...That is one scary police chief, right there...

...And some left-leaning people think that only "professionals" like him should have firearms?

...Which also brings to mind that "professional" BATF agent and his Glock...


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Old 02-09-2013, 06:02   #19
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I also never saw a small town police chief who thought he was a 4-star General - those stars on his shoulders should tell you you're dealing with a nut.
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:24   #20
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I also never saw a small town police chief who thought he was a 4-star General - those stars on his shoulders should tell you you're dealing with a nut.
I always wondered about that. Just like that anti-gun police chief in those Senate hearings. What's with the stars?

A 1 star general in the army rules over, what, a thousand guys? Anyone know the numbers?

Anyway, it should be a law that police officers can't wear a star unless they have 1 thousand officers reporting to them.

It should also be a law that they can't have high cap mags and AR's unless civilians can.

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Old 02-09-2013, 10:59   #21
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But never forget, he is a chief, leader of men. As a chief he knows all relating to law enforcement. As a chief he is NEVER wrong.
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Old 02-09-2013, 11:44   #22
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Well, until the tactical scissors come out, I'll opt for something else..............the regular scissors just aren't adequate.
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Old 02-09-2013, 19:22   #23
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A 1 star general in the army rules over, what, a thousand guys? Anyone know the numbers?
Really depends on the whose army and which army their in command of. Ex. Patton went from commanding the I Armored corps of 90 000 to ultimately commanding the 15th Army which only had a couple hundred men.

ETA: As a rule of thumb a brigadier/major general commands a division which can be two to five brigades. Usually ~10 000 men.
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This police chief is telling you exactly why he carries a gun. He carries to intimidate citizens and he likes the feeling of power he gets from carrying it.
That's just what I was thinking.
He makes a pretty good case against gun control.
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Old 02-09-2013, 20:49   #25
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Beyond stupid. And you want to disarm ME? Not gonna happen.
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