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02-08-2013, 12:41
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CA police chief "Gun is not defensive weapon"
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"A gun is an offensive weapon used to intimidate and to show power. Police officers do not carry a gun a defensive weapon to defend themselves."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...w_OcdPM#t=389s
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02-08-2013, 13:00
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Emoryville is a joke. All it has is an Ikea and it is the east end of tha Bay Bridge. His department can fit in two patrol cars.
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02-08-2013, 13:01
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There's a chief not in touch with reality.
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02-08-2013, 13:03
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He is in CA need we say more.
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02-08-2013, 13:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jms123
He is in CA need we say more.
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What he said.
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02-08-2013, 13:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CranialCrusader
This link should automatically skip to the appropriate part:
"A gun is an offensive weapon used to intimidate and to show power. Police officers do not carry a gun a defensive weapon to defend themselves."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...w_OcdPM#t=389s
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He must be a fun guy to work for.
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02-08-2013, 13:15
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I almost signed on with Emeryville PD, passed the written and physical. Did a ride along that showed me their patrol area was a Denny's, Ikea, card club and boat house. The cops at the patrol level were stand up guys but the admin side  . Got my letter to complete the background. Decided moving out the area and finishing my degree was a better choice. Glad I dont work for that idiot.
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02-08-2013, 13:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ColdSteelNail
There's a chief not in touch with reality.
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02-08-2013, 13:20
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The press seeks out those that best fits into their agenda. This guy is dancing to the tune played by the press.
Now, considering that defensive tools can be used offensively, his argument will find a willing audience.
The chief just needs a better understanding of conflict.
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02-08-2013, 13:41
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So what is he saying, that police officers have guns to show power and dominance over civilians?
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02-08-2013, 13:42
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Of course a gun is defensive ...
... against people who use a gun to intimidate and show power .... 
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02-08-2013, 13:55
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As a guy who deals with police liability, I'd be a little worried about a chief who thinks his officers carry "an offensive weapon used to intimidate and to show power."
That guy is &^%$#@! nuts.
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02-08-2013, 14:34
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This police chief is telling you exactly why he carries a gun. He carries to intimidate citizens and he likes the feeling of power he gets from carrying it. I liked the look of the mature thin woman behind him. Her look shows she's thinking WTF is he talking about. I don't think she agrees with what he is saying.
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02-08-2013, 15:18
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Emeryville, Ca. sits between Oakland and Berkeley - contrasting influences.
Richmond, Ca., well, some people tell me it has changed positively since I was there 30 years ago. Others say it is still the same hell-hole.
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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02-08-2013, 15:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bren
As a guy who deals with police liability, I'd be a little worried about a chief who thinks his officers carry "an offensive weapon used to intimidate and to show power."
That guy is &^%$#@! nuts.
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Originally Posted by oldman11
This police chief is telling you exactly why he carries a gun. He carries to intimidate citizens and he likes the feeling of power he gets from carrying it.
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Yep...not good.
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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02-08-2013, 15:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bren
As a guy who deals with police liability, I'd be a little worried about a chief who thinks his officers carry "an offensive weapon used to intimidate and to show power."
That guy is &^%$#@! nuts.
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They grow a lot of nuts and fruits in California.
It's "The land of sun-baked people and half-baked ideas"
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02-08-2013, 15:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CranialCrusader
This link should automatically skip to the appropriate part:
"A gun is an offensive weapon used to intimidate and to show power. Police officers do not carry a gun a defensive weapon to defend themselves."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...w_OcdPM#t=389s
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Man...That is one scary police chief, right there... 
...And some left-leaning people think that only "professionals" like him should have firearms? 
...Which also brings to mind th at "professional" BATF agent and his Glock...
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02-08-2013, 15:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JFrame
Man...That is one scary police chief, right there...
...And some left-leaning people think that only "professionals" like him should have firearms?
...Which also brings to mind that "professional" BATF agent and his Glock...
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"Oh bother" said Pooh, as he punched the magazine release...
In some peoples minds "What if?" is just as real as What Is.
Think good thoughts about Ronny moving to the Netherlands ASAP
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02-09-2013, 06:02
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I also never saw a small town police chief who thought he was a 4-star General - those stars on his shoulders should tell you you're dealing with a nut.
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I deserve to lose a gunfight if I ever take gunfighting advice from James Yeager.
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02-09-2013, 07:24
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Originally Posted by Bren
I also never saw a small town police chief who thought he was a 4-star General - those stars on his shoulders should tell you you're dealing with a nut.
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I always wondered about that. Just like that anti-gun police chief in those Senate hearings. What's with the stars?
A 1 star general in the army rules over, what, a thousand guys? Anyone know the numbers?
Anyway, it should be a law that police officers can't wear a star unless they have 1 thousand officers reporting to them.
It should also be a law that they can't have high cap mags and AR's unless civilians can.
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02-09-2013, 10:59
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But never forget, he is a chief, leader of men. As a chief he knows all relating to law enforcement. As a chief he is NEVER wrong. 
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02-09-2013, 11:44
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Well, until the tactical scissors come out, I'll opt for something else..............the regular scissors just aren't adequate.
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02-09-2013, 19:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ithaca_deerslayer
A 1 star general in the army rules over, what, a thousand guys? Anyone know the numbers?
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Really depends on the whose army and which army their in command of. Ex. Patton went from commanding the I Armored corps of 90 000 to ultimately commanding the 15th Army which only had a couple hundred men.
ETA: As a rule of thumb a brigadier/major general commands a division which can be two to five brigades. Usually ~10 000 men.
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Last edited by evlbruce; 02-09-2013 at 19:26..
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02-09-2013, 20:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oldman11
This police chief is telling you exactly why he carries a gun. He carries to intimidate citizens and he likes the feeling of power he gets from carrying it.
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That's just what I was thinking.
He makes a pretty good case against gun control.
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02-09-2013, 20:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CranialCrusader
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"A gun is an offensive weapon used to intimidate and to show power. Police officers do not carry a gun a defensive weapon to defend themselves."
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Beyond stupid. And you want to disarm ME? Not gonna happen.
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