G30 suggestions

GruGrux515 · 02-19-2013, 23:40

Fixing to get me a 30 here shortly. I am trying to decide between the Gen3 and Gen 4.

As for the Gen 3's is there a big joricable difference between the SF and regular sized grip? If so then I'm trying to decide between gen 3 SF and the gen4.

My local shop is supposed to be getting a bunch of gen 3's in but said they haven't found any gen 4's so my lack of willingness to wait is making me consider trying the regular gen 3

Thanks

JLeòdhas · 02-20-2013, 00:28

I have a G30 Gen3 and just love it, its my ccw. Try it, you will like it.

Tiro Fijo · 02-20-2013, 01:16

To be honest, even the Gen 4 Glocks in .45 ACP/10mm are still too fat for many. Glock would sell far more if they could get it down to the Gen 4 .40 S&W/9mm grip size which for many is perfect.

GruGrux515 · 02-20-2013, 08:55

Here is my reasoning behind wanting a 30. I was considering using it to replace my 19 as my CC. Or would I be better off with sticking with my 19 with a +P load like pdx1 I currently carry?

I didn't consider the 21 just bc it's too large to carry concealed and the price of .45 doesn't make for a cheap range gun.

I haven't considered the .40's becaus of the frequent snappy comments I have read and I unfortunately don't have the ability to test drive a different caliber before buying

Thoughts?

lyodbraun · 02-20-2013, 09:04

I love my G30SF, you cant go wrong with either the G4 or G3 G30... My 30SF is my EDC, its a fantastic shooter.. as for the .40S&W glocks, those are great as well, I dont think they have all that much snap like alot claim, its all in how ya react to the recoil, IMO, but my 30 is more of a push and feels soft, and feels like my G34's recoil .. if ya want that big ole .45ACP go for it.. you will be happy ya did...

BMiracletx · 02-20-2013, 09:16

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Originally Posted by Tiro Fijo

To be honest, even the Gen 4 Glocks in .45 ACP/10mm are still too fat for many. Glock would sell far more if they could get it down to the Gen 4 .40 S&W/9mm grip size which for many is perfect.

Yep. Even the 30sf has a frame grip larger than the standard Glocks. The 45 is longer which requires more room front to rear. If you want a smaller grip, then you are stuck with the 36.

Or... 45GAP! Glock shortened the 45ACP to fit into the 9mm/40 frame! Awesome cartridge, but limited availability and expensive. But, if you reload and want 45 ballistics in a small package (actually better ballistics in 185 and 200gr), then 45GAP is awesome. It is definitely a niche cartridge like 357sig and 10mm.

GruGrux515 · 02-20-2013, 09:24

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Originally Posted by BMiracletx

Yep. Even the 30sf has a frame grip larger than the standard Glocks. The 45 is longer which requires more room front to rear. If you want a smaller grip, then you are stuck with the 36.

Or... 45GAP! Glock shortened the 45ACP to fit into the 9mm/40 frame! Awesome cartridge, but limited availability and expensive. But, if you reload and want 45 ballistics in a small package (actually better ballistics in 185 and 200gr), then 45GAP is awesome. It is definitely a niche cartridge like 357sig and 10mm.

I'm def taking ammo pricing and availability into consideration what good is a 500 gun if u can't find ammo to shoot or ur paying 30 for target ammo

Poohgyrr · 02-20-2013, 10:00

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Originally Posted by GruGrux515

Here is my reasoning behind wanting a ::: and I unfortunately don't have the ability to test drive a different caliber before buying.

The G30 has a pretty solid reputation for accuracy and soft shooting. The 30SF is reported to be noticably handier than the regular G30. The Gen4 should "feel" at least as good as the G30SF.

The G19 has a solid reputation as well, all over the world.

Both work; buy whichever one works best for you.

mjsarge · 02-20-2013, 10:13

My suggestion, buy one.

Original, Gen 2, 3, 4, SF..you can't go wrong.

GRT45 · 02-20-2013, 11:03

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Originally Posted by GruGrux515

Here is my reasoning behind wanting a 30. I was considering using it to replace my 19 as my CC. Or would I be better off with sticking with my 19 with a +P load like pdx1 I currently carry?

I didn't consider the 21 just bc it's too large to carry concealed and the price of .45 doesn't make for a cheap range gun.

I haven't considered the .40's becaus of the frequent snappy comments I have read and I unfortunately don't have the ability to test drive a different caliber before buying

Thoughts?

If you're comfortable with the Gen3 G19 grip size, then I believe the Gen3 G30SF or Gen4 G30 (without backstrap adapter) will be a better fit in 45ACP over the Gen3 G30 standard frame.

If you have any need for a woods protection pistol now or in the future, or would like to experiment with higher-energy pistol calibers, the G30 has awesome options to shoot .45 Super or convert (in increasing Taylor KO order) to 10mm Auto, .40 Super, and .460 Rowland. If you see that in your future, wait for a Gen4 G30. The more aggressive Gen4 grip texture is a plus for better control of the converted G30. The G30S is not suitable for caliber conversions. See the info at the link in my signature line below for details.

BMiracletx · 02-20-2013, 11:40

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Originally Posted by GruGrux515

I'm def taking ammo pricing and availability into consideration what good is a 500 gun if u can't find ammo to shoot or ur paying 30 for target ammo

Then to YOU a 45GAP is worthless. To ME, since I reload, I love shooting the caliber!

To each his own... a gun is only good if you have the ammo.

Poohgyrr · 02-20-2013, 12:23

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Originally Posted by GRT45

::: the G30 has awesome options to shoot ::: The more aggressive Gen4 grip texture is a plus for better control of the converted G30. See the info at the link in my signature line below for details.

Thanks.

AK47Man · 02-20-2013, 13:15

My G30 is my car traveling gun..Shoots great and dependable..My G27 is my walking carry gun..G22 my nightstand gun..G19 is my wifes nightstand gun..My G17 and G21SF are my backups...LOL....Either way you can NOT go wrong with any Glock you chose...!!

Scrappy · 02-20-2013, 13:34

I have had my G30 since 2004.Sonce that time it has not had one hiccup! It is the most accurate there is. Ive seen it reported 3/4" group at 25 yds!
Its my most accurate Glock. I do carry it, its a little heavy, fat and sometimes carry the G19 or G23 instead
Its a soft shooter even with +p ammo its fine.
With that said if I were to buy a G30 today it would be the G30S model without a doubt. I put digital calipers on the frame and its only slightly fatter then the G19. Its Lighter and slimmer then the G30 for carrying.
A gen 4 texture would not be good for skin when carrying, so keep that in mind too. So give me a Gen3 G30S please!

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show....php?t=1472310

sugarcreek · 02-20-2013, 13:38

If it were me, I would wait for a Gen 4 30S. The S vs standard slide to me is a good idea. Still the fat back strap translating recoil to the hand, with the thinner lighter slide?

You bet. Look. Felt recoil is relatively TRIVIAL for most purposes here, and generally for 9-40-45, to me.

dausmus · 02-20-2013, 13:38

I primarily carry a glock 19 but I just purchased a glock 30sf. I have shot my father's and I loved its soft recoil. Imo its not much more than the 19. I have a mtac holster on the way so the 30sf will more than likely take the 19's place in ccw. I can't comment on the grip differences as I have modified my 19's grip so now it is almost identical to the stock 30sf.

GruGrux515 · 02-20-2013, 14:58

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Originally Posted by BMiracletx

Then to YOU a 45GAP is worthless. To ME, since I reload, I love shooting the caliber!

To each his own... a gun is only good if you have the ammo.

Good point. Unfortunately I don't have the money or knowledge on how to reload. Which sucks bc it would make perfect sense. Then again I did a quick search and there seems to still be GAP available online for 2-6 more for a box.

So the GAP models are built on the smaller 9mm/40 frames?

1canvas · 02-20-2013, 20:16

I bought a G30sf today, the grip didn't feel much different from the grip on my 23.

ojabog · 02-20-2013, 20:27

Get a G26 or G27 if you want more power. Easier to conceal. Dont get me wrong my Gen 3 G30 is my favorite gun, its a tack driver and not a single issue in over 1000 rounds. Its a phenomenal gun.

Glockcubed · 02-21-2013, 12:54

I just picked up a G30SF today. I can't wait to get it to the range.

GruGrux515 · 02-21-2013, 14:22

Just at my local shop and they have some LE gen 4. I was armed security trained here in PA but my license lapsed which sucks. Oh well guess I gotta wait

GruGrux515 · 02-21-2013, 17:25

I also didn't realize how big of a gun the 30 is until I saw it in person. I was picturing it to be more like the 26/27 but its much bigger. I can see how it's bulky to carry concealed.

Def makes it harder to comit on a new purchase. I have no clue what I want now lol

Scrappy · 02-21-2013, 17:28

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Originally Posted by GruGrux515

I also didn't realize how big of a gun the 30 is until I saw it in person. I was picturing it to be more like the 26/27 but its much bigger. I can see how it's bulky to carry concealed.

Def makes it harder to comit on a new purchase. I have no clue what I want now lol

Its the size of a G19/23 just the slide is thicker. If I were you I would get the G30S if you just want to shoot 45 ACP.

GruGrux515 · 02-21-2013, 17:35

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Originally Posted by Scrappy

Its the size of a G19/23 just the slide is thicker. If I were you I would get the G30S if you just want to shoot 45 ACP.

I guess that's where the issue lies... Idk what the hell I want. Obviously .45 acp is quite expensive to just use to put holes in paper. I use my 19 for carry and it's the only gun I have. I wanted to have at least 2 guns.

So idk if I should just get a full sized in another caliber, go with the 26/27 for more concealment carry and use the 19 for home and range. The thing pushing me away from the .40 lineup is ppls complaint on recoil. I have only ever shot 9's

Scrappy · 02-21-2013, 18:10

Ok let me see if I can help.
Best thing to do is rent a 40cal. I was against owning, shooting 40 cals for a long time.
I had bought a G22 many many years ago. I hated it, the pounding and muzzle flip!
Since then Ive had Sig P229, CZ40P and shoot some S&W 40 cals but never warmed up to them. Out of all of them the G22 had the worst recoil.
Then I rented a S&W M&P & G23. The M&P has less recoil and I shot it well. I then put deposit on the M&P 40.
Day later I said to myself what are you doing, Im a Glock Fan. I already have holsters and they are the best carry guns IMO. Everything interchanges, and I can shoot 3 different calibers for it. So I went back to shop and switched it for the G23. Now that I own it with a good set of sights, I love it!!
It doesn't flip like the G22 did and I have no problem with the recoil, I guess because I have shot my G30 with +P ammo since 2004,lol.
Anyway I do own and M&P Pro 9 but it does nothing great and has nothing over my Glock 19 except 2 rds,lol.
I will say the Glock 40 cal has the most recoil of any 40 cal ive shot.
The Glocks for me are just to hard to beat all around, parts are everywhere and you can work on them in a snap!
If you shoot +P ammo in the G19 the G23 recoil is just slightly more then that.
Hope that helps!