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02-06-2013, 22:17
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More info on the Acapulco assaults.
It appears that the victims thought it would be a good idea to buy drugs from their future assailants.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/06/world/...html?hpt=hp_t3
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02-07-2013, 04:23
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So the moral of the story is don't buy drugs... or don't go to Mexico if you want to buy drugs?
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02-07-2013, 23:52
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Play with fire, that's what you get. Deal with the criminals and you invite them into your life, good or bad and in this case, pretty bad.
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02-07-2013, 23:54
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OK, cue the guy to say "It wouldn't have happened if drugs were legal there."
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02-08-2013, 00:20
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OK, cue the guy to say "It wouldn't have happened if drugs were legal there."
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It wouldn't have happened if people cut off tourism to that failed country.
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02-08-2013, 00:27
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Open carry would have prevented this?
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02-08-2013, 11:32
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That city is already hell, damn shame, I love to go to Acapulco
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02-08-2013, 19:41
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That city is already hell, damn shame, I love to go to Acapulco
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Me too, they got awesome appetizers and the dance bar is pretty happening with all the guapas.
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02-09-2013, 05:58
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I DO NOT condone illegal immigration, I've said it time and time again.
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I once didn't kill a mountain lion by hand when it tried to stare me down...once.
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Politicians should serve two terms, one in office and one in prison.:rofl::rofl:
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02-09-2013, 06:16
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Don't go to Mexico AND don't buy drugs and you reduce your chances of being a victim by about 99%.
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02-09-2013, 07:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by countrygun
OK, cue the guy to say "It wouldn't have happened if drugs were legal there."
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I don't have anything to do with drugs, but I don't think buying drugs invites what happened to them.
If they even actually did buy drugs.
And what was it, some pot for personal use?
However, if they were buying bricks or bails or whatever of cocaine to smuggle back to Spain, then my sympathies for them start to go down, a little.
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02-09-2013, 08:17
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Originally Posted by ithaca_deerslayer
I don't have anything to do with drugs, but I don't think buying drugs invites what happened to them.
If they even actually did buy drugs.
And what was it, some pot for personal use?
However, if they were buying bricks or bails or whatever of cocaine to smuggle back to Spain, then my sympathies for them start to go down, a little.
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No one is saying they deserved to get gangraped. What we are all saying is that if you invite criminals into your life, you get unintended consequences. Had they not bought drugs from them a few days before, more than likely it would not have happened. Also, I highly doubt it's pot for personal use. Since everyone wants to legalize marijuana, the news would be quick to point out that "it's just pot" they bought.
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02-09-2013, 14:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ithaca_deerslayer
I don't have anything to do with drugs, but I don't think buying drugs invites what happened to them.
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That's exactly what was being said in this thread...
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02-09-2013, 14:49
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Mexico may now be the biggest s**t hole on the planet. I wouldn't go anywhere in that country for any reason.
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02-09-2013, 15:03
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OK, cue the guy to say "It wouldn't have happened if drugs were legal there."
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You know, that's kind of "duh" obvious to most people.
Your even realize it's true, right? When is the last time your pharmacist invaded your home after you got a legal prescription filled. It seems more than obvious here - in fact, the whole story is about people becoming victims after dealing with a criminal gang to buy drugs.
Are you saying if they were sold at the local liquor store or pharmacy, the store owners and employees would have committed this crime?
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02-09-2013, 15:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ithaca_deerslayer
I don't have anything to do with drugs, but I don't think buying drugs invites what happened to them.
If they even actually did buy drugs.
And what was it, some pot for personal use?
However, if they were buying bricks or bails or whatever of cocaine to smuggle back to Spain, then my sympathies for them start to go down, a little.
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ILLEGAL drugs are sold in a criminal black market where violent crime is a necessary part of doing business. That means, when you buy drugs, you are dealing, directly or indirectly, with violent criminals. That is what put these people in danger and resulted in the crime.
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02-09-2013, 15:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bren
ILLEGAL drugs are sold in a criminal black market where violent crime is a necessary part of doing business. That means, when you buy drugs, you are dealing, directly or indirectly, with violent criminals. That is what put these people in danger and resulted in the crime.
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Guess the tourists can't trust the Mexican drug dealers anymore.
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02-09-2013, 16:02
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Strange that they have the bad guys under surveillance but haven't made the arrest yet...... Must be some reason ... 
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02-09-2013, 16:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bren
You know, that's kind of "duh" obvious to most people.
Your even realize it's true, right? When is the last time your pharmacist invaded your home after you got a legal prescription filled. It seems more than obvious here - in fact, the whole story is about people becoming victims after dealing with a criminal gang to buy drugs.
Are you saying if they were sold at the local liquor store or pharmacy, the store owners and employees would have committed this crime?
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I can't say about recreationally, but I do know, for a fact, no matter how cheap and legal (if making them legal would even make them cheaper) they become addicts will use to the exclusion of doing anything productive and will take themselves down to the point that, even if it only costs $10 for a days supply, they won't have that $10. At that point they resort to crime to feed the habit. So I don't see much of a chance that legalizing will stop that kind of crime, and usually it is non-users that are the victims (because they have money and stuff to steal) So anything that keeps the crime between druggies, as in this case apparently, doesn't hurt my feelings.
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"Oh bother" said Pooh, as he punched the magazine release...
In some peoples minds "What if?" is just as real as What Is.
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02-09-2013, 17:36
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Just about anywhere in the world, if one wishes to buy drugs, one has to go to a bad and dangerous part of town. Because that is where the criminals and pushers live.
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02-09-2013, 23:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bren
ILLEGAL drugs are sold in a criminal black market where violent crime is a necessary part of doing business. That means, when you buy drugs, you are dealing, directly or indirectly, with violent criminals. That is what put these people in danger and resulted in the crime.
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There are plenty of legal prescription meds sold illegally on the streets. Xanax, Hydrocodone, Oxycotin, etc...
Black markets exist for almost everything... Meds, alcohol, tobacco, guns, DVDs, you name it.
Legalization isn't the golden goose which will set right all the ills of society.
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02-10-2013, 00:11
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Originally Posted by ColdSteelNail
Mexico may now be the biggest s**t hole on the planet. I wouldn't go anywhere in that country for any reason.
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I rather go to Mexico than most of Central America, many parts of Asia, the Middles east in general and most of Africa. I hardly think it is the worst place to in 2013.
Plus it has better food than any of those places.
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02-10-2013, 07:34
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Originally Posted by txleapd
There are plenty of legal prescription meds sold illegally on the streets. Xanax, Hydrocodone, Oxycotin, etc...
Black markets exist for almost everything... Meds, alcohol, tobacco, guns, DVDs, you name it.
Legalization isn't the golden goose which will set right all the ills of society.
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If nothing was illegal, there'd be no criminals.
Not sure if that is true but it sounded good  Most of what the anti-gun politicians do is legal, but they are still criminal.
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