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Old 09-25-2014, 11:54   #1
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The 'why' and 'what of the .40 S&W

Looks like this section needs some action. So the questions are what .40 S&W do you have and why did you choose it?

I'll kick it off. I have a Glock 23. I'd been wanting one for nearly 20 years but never got around to getting one till a couple of years ago. I carried it off duty till last year when an agency change occurred and .40 wasn't an approved caliber (not really sure why to be honest). So I carry my Glock 19 now off duty.

My normal load in the G23 is the Win PDX1 in the 165gr. I would have preferred 180gr but wasn't available at the time.

I don't own the .40 because it is necessarily better than the 9mm (or any other service caliber). Rather I just 'wanted' one for a long time and I justified it by saying to myself that diversifying calibers was a good thing.

I hand polished the barrel so it is now SS. I like the contrast.
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Old 09-25-2014, 12:36   #2
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I have a Glock 23. I chose it because the .40 is the best readily available, all-purpose handgun caliber around. More capacity than .45, .44 or .357, more damage and a bigger hole than 9mm, easier to shoot fast than 10mm and .44 mag (and, maybe, .45 too).
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Old 09-25-2014, 17:32   #3
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More capacity than .45, .44 or .357, more damage and a bigger hole than 9mm, easier to shoot fast than 10mm and .44 mag (and, maybe, .45 too).
If a bigger hole matters then why not a .45? If capacity matters why not 9mm? If easier to shoot matters why not 9mm? Every point you make in favor of the .40 can also be used AGAINST the .40. You can't use selectively pick and choose your comparisons.

Another way to look at .40 is it compromises on everything. Considering that shot placement and penetration are what really matters and handguns are poor stoppers anyway (regardless of caliber) anyone who thinks there really is a difference is "stopping power" is kidding themselves. Even coroners can't tell the difference in wound tracks between the service calibers.

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Old 09-25-2014, 17:34   #4
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I hand polished the barrel so it is now SS.
What is SS?
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Old 09-25-2014, 17:38   #5
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What is SS?
Super shiny?
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Old 09-25-2014, 17:58   #6
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I have a Glock 22 Gen 4 that I use for nightstand duty. I know there's not much love for the .40 S&W cartridge on GT, but I like it and I seem to shoot it as well as my other calibers (9mm, .45ACP, .38 Special, .357 Magnum, .380 and .45 Colt). I bought it because I specifically wanted a full size .40 for home defense and hope to add a Gen 4 G23 in the near future.
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Old 09-25-2014, 18:08   #7
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Started off with a S&W SW40VE. Good gun. Durable. Accurate for what it is.

Sold it to finance a G22. Great gun.

I wanted more power than a 9mm and liked the capacity advantage over .45.
I don't think the round is anything special. No better or worse than anything
else out there. It's accurate enough. Easy to reload. What's not to like?

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I have a Glock 23. I chose it because the .40 is the best readily available, all-purpose handgun caliber around. More capacity than .45, .44 or .357, more damage and a bigger hole than 9mm, easier to shoot fast than 10mm and .44 mag (and, maybe, .45 too).
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When I bought my first gun (G23) in July 2004, the 40 offered the best combination of performance, capacity, and cost (back then, 100 WWB was $14.88; same box of 9mm was less than a dollar less). If I could go back, knowing how stupid ammo prices have risen, I would have purchased the 9mm. If only for the cost of ammo.
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Old 09-25-2014, 18:19   #9
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Wanted a CC pistol. 26 and 27 are the same size package. I shoot .40 very well, which put the 27 in the lead over the 26 in my book. Why not a .45, you ask? It has a thicker slide, and concealability is an issue for me. I know, some of you will say a .45 is only slightly thicker than the slide on the .40, but there's a cutoff somewhere, and for me, that was it.
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Old 09-25-2014, 18:23   #10
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For me, it's for when the next panic strikes and all the 9mm disappears.

I have a Gen 3 G23. I don't particular enjoy shooting it and never have. But it I will never get rid of it because I believe when it comes to both rifles and pistols, you should have two caliber options to choose from.
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What is SS?
Stainless Steel. I polished the black off the barrel using Mother's Mag Polish. Was a fun little project and I like the way the contrast looks.

As a side note, I put the Nitesiters large dots on the sites and really took a liking to them. Was like $15 or so and when I charge the sites before bed they're still visible in the morning.
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Old 09-25-2014, 20:37   #12
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g23 on and off duty. hard to beat and is a great easy shooter.
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Old 09-26-2014, 05:42   #13
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My first .40 was by necessity. I wanted a competitive USPSA limited gun, and .40 is the only way to go (dictated by the rules of the sport).

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Old 09-26-2014, 11:52   #14
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I have a sig 226EE in .40 I chose it because .40 is available in EVERY store near me for only a dollar more than 9mm, bigger bullet means bigger hole and my sig holds 15+1

I have HST 180 grain and some ranger LE HP in 180 and 165 grain. For target shooting, Ill shoot anything cheap
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Old 09-26-2014, 12:30   #15
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What? A G23. Why? Because I've always wanted one. In my opinion it falls right between the 9mm and 45ACP (not too hot, not too cold, but just right) and some could argue between the 10mm and 45ACP as well. It's the pistol of choice for most of our LE over here on the West Coast so ammo is always available. I also polished my barrel and replaced the pins and slide stop with SS ones. I have Talon grips (spicy). A G17 smooth trigger, SS guide rod and Aimline sights. With a Biohazard grip plug and extented mag release to top it all off, it's everything I've ever wanted.

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Old 09-26-2014, 12:52   #16
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Glock 22 gen 4 because the G22 is what the department requires. It's loaded with 16 Winchester Ranger-T 165 grain off duty and my range ammo is 165 grain as well. Bought it before ammo prices went loopy; not looking forward to having to buy again. I enjoy shooting the .40 S&W.
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In carry 40 in my Smith M&P's, which I love by the way. I chose 40 S&W after studying the FBI ballastics data. All handgun rounds are a compromise, but the consistency of depth (particularly the 165 grain and the 180 grain), wound channels (particularly the supersonic 165 grain temporary wound channel, which, while not permanent, does affect the party hit), and ability to penetrate barriers (FBI study the 180 grain exceeded all other rounds) were factors in my decision.
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I have an older Gen 2 Glock 23 that was given to me by an old, very dear friend. I carried it for a few years, put thousands and thousands of rounds thru it and it now resides in my nightstand sporting Talon grips and a quickly-dimming set if night sights that need to be replaced. Gun is loaded with 165-gr Remington Golden Saber ammo as it's what I've preferred in a .40 for years. Prob a $300-400 gun as is but I'd never part with it.
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I know there's not much love for the .40 S&W cartridge on GT....
Didn't realize it had detractors on the forum? It's a viable caliber that see quite a bit of use with high liability professionals. In my area it seems to be as plentiful as calibers like 9mm and .45ACP. Too be honest, I find it more of a challenge to find .38 Special, .357 magnum and .22LR than anything else. And I don't remember the last time I saw .357sig.

The 165g and 180g weights have established themselves for acceptable penetration and it has performed well in brands like GD and PDX1 etc.

Like I said, I don't think any service caliber is head-and-shoulders above any other and to me, caliber is down the list after reliability, shot placement, acceptable penetration, acceptable recoil etc.
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Didn't realize it had detractors on the forum? It's a viable caliber that see quite a bit of use with high liability professionals. In my area it seems to be as plentiful as calibers like 9mm and .45ACP. Too be honest, I find it more of a challenge to find .38 Special, .357 magnum and .22LR than anything else. And I don't remember the last time I saw .357sig.

The 165g and 180g weights have established themselves for acceptable penetration and it has performed well in brands like GD and PDX1 etc.

Like I said, I don't think any service caliber is head-and-shoulders above any other and to me, caliber is down the list after reliability, shot placement, acceptable penetration, acceptable recoil etc.
Yes, I see comments all the time regarding the .40 S&W round and how many don't care for it. Normally the reason given is the debate over wear due to the higher pressure cartridge. I try to stay away from the caliber arguments. I've always felt caliber choice is as individual as what brand of car you drive. I like .40 S&W and will continue to keep my G22 by my side.
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