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02-05-2013, 13:16
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Bamboozled
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Tx
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We continue to be our own worst enemy
It seems we continue to be our own worst enemy. Sure we all slow roll to the obvious BS calls, or the "call the man/woman/whoever" calls.... But residential burglarys and unconscious 5 year old kids..... Just flat out worthless...
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...ncy-calls?lite
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02-05-2013, 13:43
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Wisconsin
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I think we have all had the displeasure of working with individuals such as these at some point unfortunately. The sad truth is that there will always be "officers" like this and they will need to be dealt with. Its just a shame that it gets to this extent before something is done about it.
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I long to accomplish a great and noble tasks, but it is my chief duty to accomplish humble tasks as though they were great and noble. The world is moved along, not only by the mighty shoves of its heroes, but also by the aggregate of the tiny pushes of each honest worker.
Last edited by x_out86; 02-05-2013 at 13:44..
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02-05-2013, 14:05
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Pretty Ladies!
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Lexington, KY
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You get what you pay for, or, more likely what you lower your standards to hire.
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"You want it to be one way... but it's the other way." - Marlo Stanfield
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02-05-2013, 14:08
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Fenced In
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: KY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dukeboy01
You get what you pay for, or, more likely what you lower your standards to hire.
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Hit the nail on the head right there!
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"Opportunity is missed by most people because it comes dressed in overalls and looks like work." -- Thomas Edison
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Originally Posted by series1811
The first round is a moral decision. All of the following rounds are tactical decisions.
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02-05-2013, 14:09
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: West Central Ohio
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We call that "R.O.D" retired on duty...
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NRA-Line of Duty member
NMLRA
G22, G23, G27
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02-05-2013, 14:16
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Semper Paratus
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 13,470
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CJStudent
Hit the nail on the head right there!
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And the last names tell me they're part of the ruling class at Miami Dade PD
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How do you establish intent?
Well when a naked man is chasing a woman down an alley with a butcher knife and a hard on, I figure he's not collecting for the red cross...Inspector H. Callahan
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02-05-2013, 15:02
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Inactive/Banned
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Waco, Texas
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Every profession has people that are like this.
Sent from my Federation issued communicator.
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02-05-2013, 15:26
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CLM Number 209
RIP Adam Yauch
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Unmarked Rustbox
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Handled appropriately.
Enjoy your new jobs at 7-11.
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02-05-2013, 16:39
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CLM Number 122
Why so serious?
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: NRA Life Member
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The one time I almost lost it in front of everyone was responding to a hot call and coming up fast behind another responding unit traveling "code zero".
I about pushed them out of the way, got by, and after the scene was secured went looking for them.
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02-05-2013, 17:11
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CLM Number 38
Charter Lifetime Member
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Departments actively, agressively recruit minorities. The give them preferential treatment in MANY aspects of the hiring process. Such behavior including and especially overlooking aspects of the background investigations which would disqualify a white male.
Why then shouldn't these hirees feel like teflon dons? They know that their presence is fulfilling minority quotas established by the courts to "make things fair". Of course they don't worry about being punished.
It is a system of malfeasance and poor judgements on behalf of the hiring agencies which will absolutely result in a culture of under performing / corrupt police officers.
I see no changing of these standards and trends in the future. As you can see they are moving up the ranks to supervisory positions wherein the culture of protecting these slackers and miscreants has become so firmly entrenched as to be insurmountable.
Have I mentioned recently how happy and relieved I am to be retired?
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02-05-2013, 17:19
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
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What a bunch of losers. I'm glad they got canned, and I hope they never have another job with any kind of responsibility again.
This isn't the kinda of work where you can take scheduled breaks, play a stress card or slack off.
Eff them.
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02-05-2013, 17:40
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Street Person
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: On the corner of Gang and Ghetto
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Welcome to the 'New National Order'.
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Dear God, this is one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard. It's got to rank right up there with CALEA. -Pepper45
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02-05-2013, 17:52
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CLM Number 145
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Nationwide
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I don't get how anyone could blow off responding to an unconscious five month old.  Disgraceful.
I was discussing hiring standards with a guy at work and came to the conclusion that motivation was the most important qualification.
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02-05-2013, 20:54
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Florida
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There are some of us non LE types that know the media can't be trusted. We know that there are more LEOs who do an excellent job than there are dirt bags in uniform. Thanks for doing what you do.
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02-05-2013, 20:59
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Fenced In
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: KY
Posts: 16,139
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yamen1999
There are some of us non LE types that know the media can't be trusted. We know that there are more LEOs who do an excellent job than there are dirt bags in uniform. Thanks for doing what you do.
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Thank you. I'm beginning to think people like you are in the minority, though.
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"Opportunity is missed by most people because it comes dressed in overalls and looks like work." -- Thomas Edison
Quote:
Originally Posted by series1811
The first round is a moral decision. All of the following rounds are tactical decisions.
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02-05-2013, 21:05
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Inside the Perimeter
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kenpoprofessor
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And you....
Have a great bite-my-shorts clyde day.
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02-05-2013, 21:11
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Fenced In
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: KY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vigilant
And you....
Have a great bite-my-shorts clyde day.
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"Opportunity is missed by most people because it comes dressed in overalls and looks like work." -- Thomas Edison
Quote:
Originally Posted by series1811
The first round is a moral decision. All of the following rounds are tactical decisions.
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02-06-2013, 04:29
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Semper Paratus
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 13,470
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kenpoprofessor
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Close but no cigar.
Miami Dade is a different agency.
Used to be Metro Dade.
Have a great nothing to ad but drive by day.
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How do you establish intent?
Well when a naked man is chasing a woman down an alley with a butcher knife and a hard on, I figure he's not collecting for the red cross...Inspector H. Callahan
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02-06-2013, 07:55
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Wisconsin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranger1759
We call that "R.O.D" retired on duty...
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Unfortunately I am EXTREMELY familiar with this term. We had a high ranking administrator that was well known as being ROD for about the last 12 years of his career or so.
He has since retired, and things have been improving ever since.
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Hellen Keller:
I long to accomplish a great and noble tasks, but it is my chief duty to accomplish humble tasks as though they were great and noble. The world is moved along, not only by the mighty shoves of its heroes, but also by the aggregate of the tiny pushes of each honest worker.
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02-06-2013, 08:19
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Juris Glocktor
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Out the frying pan & into the fire!
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Seems like there are some agencies made of mostly ROD's because there is no accountability or supervision.
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Cool story, bro... when do you get to the part where you shut up and walk away from me?
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02-06-2013, 09:19
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: glen burnie, MD
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looked like they were sipping expresso. I got a "man law" violation for sipping coffee from a mug at a breakfast shop with my shift partners on Field training. I was told, " your making us look bad, you should put that in a cup!". I'm sure it was because I was new, and it was funny, but these dudes are sitting under an umbrella sipping expresso, dodging calls. Wow, Miami must be a different world.
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02-06-2013, 09:38
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Trigger Control
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Pa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TBO
The one time I almost lost it in front of everyone was responding to a hot call and coming up fast behind another responding unit traveling "code zero".
I about pushed them out of the way, got by, and after the scene was secured went looking for them.
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And...............
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02-06-2013, 09:48
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: S FL
Posts: 13,184
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vigilant
And you....
Have a great bite-my-shorts clyde day.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayhem like Me
Close but no cigar.
Miami Dade is a different agency.
Used to be Metro Dade.
Have a great nothing to ad but drive by day.
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(and Dade County Public Safety Department before that and Dade County Sheriff's Office before that)
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I never talked to anyone who had to fire their gun who said "I wished I had the smaller gun and fewer rounds with me" Just because you find a hundred people who agree with you on the internet does not mean you're right.
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