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Old 02-04-2013, 17:59   #41
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Chris Kyle was a hero in every sense of the word. He tirelessly served this nation by taking the fight to our enemies on their own soil. He continued to serve by passing his knowledge and experience on to law enforcement and military personnel, so they could continue the fight and protect our citizens. Chris selflessly volunteered to help other warriors, who were broken on our behalf.

Anyone who would mock his service and sacrifice, or glorify his murder is a scumbag and a coward. Anyone who would defend someone who did so is just as bad....


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I don't believe RP was mocking anyone at all. The statement at face value makes perfect sense. Don't get all emotionally bent out of shape over the fact that not everyone thought it a great idea to treat PTSD at a gun range.
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Old 02-04-2013, 18:02   #42
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This would be the first thing I've heard from Paul I am entirely disgusted by. I hope someone else is working his twitter and he had no input on this BS. Paul seems to be electronically backward and I've heard that most everything online is done for him.

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America: Invaded two countries.

Islam: Had two countries invaded and occupied by America and several others being regularly attacked by Predator Drones. One country still occupied by Israel as Israel practices ethnic cleansing on the original citizens.

Islamic Aggression?

LOL!
"Ethnic cleansing"? Hahahahh

That is a muzzie fable right there.
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Old 02-04-2013, 18:06   #44
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America: Invaded two countries.

Islam: Had two countries invaded and occupied by America and several others being regularly attacked by Predator Drones. One country still occupied by Israel as Israel practices ethnic cleansing on the original citizens.

Islamic Aggression?

LOL!
You, are an idiot.
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I don't believe RP was mocking anyone at all. The statement at face value makes perfect sense. Don't get all emotionally bent out of shape over the fact that not everyone thought it a great idea to treat PTSD at a gun range.
Do you have any information that Chris Kyle was NOT working with a mental health professional in his dealing with guys suffering from PTSD?

I think one would be remiss to assume he wasn't....


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FORMER SEAL AND FRIEND OF CHRIS KYLE EXPLAINS WHY A PTSD SUFFERER WOULD BE AT A RANGE AND CAUTIONS ANTI-GUN ADVOCATES


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...gun-advocates/


..For many, a shooting range might seem like an unusual place to bring a person suffering with PTSD, but Webb said it is quite the opposite.

“It’s like guys going out and playing catch and talking about issues,” Webb said. “Every Marine is a rifleman. It’s a familiar environment. There’s a level of trust and the walls come down.”



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Old 02-04-2013, 18:31   #47
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Do you have any information that Chris Kyle was NOT working with a mental health professional in his dealing with guys suffering from PTSD?

I think one would be remiss to assume he wasn't....


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No I do not. I only have what has been released in the articles. Nowhere does it state that he was working with behavioral specialist. That sort of therapy is typically reserved for when all else fails. Despite our collective lack of information giving someone a firearm that is prone to anxiety issues simply does not pass the common sense test and two people are dead for it. If there was a professional involved he failed those two dead people and should reconsider his career path.
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FORMER SEAL AND FRIEND OF CHRIS KYLE EXPLAINS WHY A PTSD SUFFERER WOULD BE AT A RANGE AND CAUTIONS ANTI-GUN ADVOCATES


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...gun-advocates/


..For many, a shooting range might seem like an unusual place to bring a person suffering with PTSD, but Webb said it is quite the opposite.

“It’s like guys going out and playing catch and talking about issues,” Webb said. “Every Marine is a rifleman. It’s a familiar environment. There’s a level of trust and the walls come down.”



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The only thing that proves is that SEALs and former SEALs are clearly not mental health professionals.
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Old 02-04-2013, 18:33   #50
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Please.... don't act like you understand.
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I find the words of Ron Paul -- if, in fact, it is not a hoax -- disrespectful, insensitive, and almost astonishingly thoughtless.

The only word I can come up with now to characterize Paul is "@$$h0le."


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I worked in the mental health field for 8 years. I understand that sometimes there are treatments that sometimes appear radical. It's an ever evolving field.

What are your qualifications?


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Old 02-04-2013, 18:41   #53
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I worked in the mental health field for 8 years. I understand that sometimes there are treatments that sometimes appear radical. It's an ever evolving field.

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I'm qualified to determine good ideas from bad ones.

I specialize in risk assessment, management and reduction and two people are dead for their choices.
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That's a bit like blaming a woman for being raped, because of the way she dresses, don't you think?

Neither of us are privy to his killer's medical history, or treatment plan.


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That's a bit like blaming a woman for being raped, because of the she dresses, don't you think?

Neither of us are privy to his killer's medical history, or treatment plan.


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No, that's possibly the worst analogy you could have come up with. Not even close.


We know that the "patient" was being "treated" by two people with good intentions but insufficient behavioral therapy skills and they both died.
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You are correct in stating we don't know about the patients treatment plan or even if there was one. I somehow doubt that taking him to the range without an attending was part of the plan (if there was one). We can only hope for more information.
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That's a bit like blaming a woman for being raped, because of the way she dresses, don't you think?

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Horrible analogy.


Regards to what Paul said, I don't find it that inflammatory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_by...e_by_the_sword

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Commonly, the expression is understood to mean, "You can expect to become a victim of whatever means you use to get what you want."[1]
Well, the government used force to get what it wanted out of Iraq, with guys like Kyle and the solider that killed him.

He volunteered to serve America, and to do it with the use of violence. Well, he was killed by another who was subject to that same violence. I don't see it as "Kyle got what he deserved" statement that the resident flag waving "'merica can do no wrong" crowd are trying to make it out to be. Don't care whether Ron actually tweeted it or not.

Not a knock, some people need killing, and guys like Kyle to do the killing. But spare me this spreading freedom and democracy BS.
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This crazy 77 year old lunatic is still trying to get attention by displaying his utter contempt for Chris Kyle and all the other heroes who bravely serve in America's military.

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This thread is bringing the "Blame America First" crowd out of the woodwork.
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